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      So you felt like you were doing your mantra for about 2.5 hours? You might have lost track and drifted off during that time and just can't recall the dreams. I have had a feeling of being awake for a long period but then remember a dream or two and realize that I did get to sleep, it's just the state before going to sleep felt very similar to when I woke up from the dreams and just did not remember the dreams at first. Good luck with dream yoga as well. Sivason is the man!

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      Yeah its a long time I know. I know I heard my brothers alarm for work at 5 and I heard my parents around 6 I think getting up? I may of gotten sleep though because I didn't feel tired that day haha. Yes it should good! Ha! He is
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      Ok nothing else exciting yet, still just continuing with dream journaling and I am attempting some tasks of the month this month
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      Doing any awareness work? Good luck with totm!

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      Yes I have been doing the sporadic awareness technique and work on self awareness during the day for example I will be sitting in class at school and tell myself "I think I'm dreaming" I will ask myself why I am in that specific room, why do I have this teacher, these classmate, what was I doing before this? and try and see if everything feels, sounds, and looks nomal. I try to be as sceptical as I can be while doing this although sometimes its hard and thanks!
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      You're welcome. Let me know if you have any questions and also feel free to continue to track your progress here.

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      yes I will, thanks

      also I forgot to mention in my earlier post a few nights ago I had a near DILD where I thought I could be dreaming, looked into a mirror and say my hair turn into a side fringe, then a claw of hair haha and I did the nose plug reality check and I could breathe through it and next thing I knew I woke up. It was sudden and a few days ago so I forgot exactly how It happened I reality checked when I woke up for an FA but I was really awake. I think it may have to do with the fact that when I am doing the nose plug rc IWL I unintentionally close my eyes to take a deep breathe which may of lead to me seeing nothing in the dream and waking up eventually. So I have been trying to make sure I fix that in the noseplug rc
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      Congrats! It sounds like you were close to a lucid adventure there and were basically lucid for a short moment. Another angle for the closed eye issue that you can try now or further down the road (and it was a recent task of the month) is to practice closing your eyes in your lucid dream and just knowing that they will open back into the same dream or wherever you want...I've used it to teleport.
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      Oh cool, that sounds fun to try and can help with the close-eyed fear thing because I guess if you believe closing your eyes will end your dream it will, just easier said then done to remember this concept
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      Quote Originally Posted by spd View Post
      I think it may have to do with the fact that when I am doing the nose plug rc IWL I unintentionally close my eyes to take a deep breathe which may of lead to me seeing nothing in the dream and waking up eventually. So I have been trying to make sure I fix that in the noseplug rc
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      Oh cool, that sounds fun to try and can help with the close-eyed fear thing because I guess if you believe closing your eyes will end your dream it will, just easier said then done to remember this concept
      True! You can "practice" either of these things during the day during any daytime RCs or other daytime work. Also, try not to answer your daytime RCs with "yes, I am awake" as that may come into your dream telling yourself as normal "yes, I am awake."

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      Hehehe got the basic task before you fogelbise haha jokes aside, I woke up after 4.5 hours sleep and couldn't go to sleep untill twqo hours later and I think staying up that long and briefly attempting a WILD gave me hieghtened awareness in the dream.

      Also good luck with the tasks fogelbise and I'm glad my dry spells over!
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      Congratulations spd!!! You have many, many good years of LDing ahead of you as long as you keep up your interest! I really liked the idea of that task and I think besides having fun as a primary aim for now, I will also try to ask more questions of my subconscious.

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      Yes it is a cool task, actually I really like this months tasks in general! Thanks

      Also last night I either had a lucid and forgot most of it, or had brief moments of lucidity in a dream because I remember being aware of my surroundings and trying to freeze a wall and shoot icycles haha I probably should of spent more time than I did when I woke up trying to recall that one but I guess its progress!
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      I would consider it progress. Even if you weren't lucid the whole time or during any of the dream, it sounds like a fun dream...and you may have been lucid during brief moments like you wondered.

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      Nothing else interesting yet, I did however have another near lucid.. but I haven't done a wbtb in a few days because I have been a bit tired from work and school haha but I will start doing them fairly frequently again
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      Near lucid sounds like progress. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

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      woah I got a bit lazy and I have just started getting back into my lucid practices after a 2 week or so lazy period
      Good news is I sort of had a near lucid experience last night where I considered the fact that I'm probably dreaming but didn't really use any effort to get into full lucidity. This is probably because I took a break from awareness and reality checking.

      Also the other day I was thinking how longer wbtbs seem to work for me better, just from analysing past lucids. I think I have had 4 of my lucid dreams for staying up well around 2 hours beacause I couldn't get back to sleep. So I might (on days where I can get a good amount of sleep) experiment with longer wbtbs 1+ hours and then use a relaxation technique then preform my mantra and visualisation. I will see how that goes!

      Good to be back
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      Good luck! Yes, many people find that longer WBTB's activate the waking memory more, increasing the chances of becoming lucid...as long as you do get back to sleep. Try not to think about waking life worries or pressures during the time you are awake as it may be harder to get back to sleep.

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      wow I really got to get back onto this, I will keep this updated also in my absence from the forum I did have another cool DILD which was fun. The problem I have noticed with my last two DILDs is they ended in the same way (where I would be in a black or grey void and not know how to get out of it so I wake myself up)
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      Congrats on the DILD! Consider the void an opportunity. You can approach the opportunity in a number of ways. My favorite is imagining a scene that you want to arrive at, somewhere you can visualize quite well (for me it is usually a sunny beach). Imagine that place and get excited about being there and all that comes with the scene and then do a closed eye teleport (close your dream eyes and then open them to the new scene if all goes well, you can do it again if the scene is not quite what you wanted). If at any time you think that you woke up, do a motionless RC first like trying to float/levitate or imagining rubbing your hands together creating friction and warmth and if you start feeling it without moving then you are probably sleeping and you can try another closed eye teleport (just imagine squeezing your eyes together since your physical eyes should already be closed) or simply roll or slide your dream body out of bed. Your expectation that any of these things will work is a huge. Another approach is to patiently walk forward in the void while rubbing your hands together either waiting for a scene to materialize or helping it along by visualizing what the void is becoming...perhaps like exiting a dark cave - the opening is just ahead, you tell yourself.

      Edit: I just saw below! Congrats on the WILD!!
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      Wow one day of being back into lding practices and I had a WILD! :O I had a 45 minute wbtb and it took me a long time to go to sleep but I was originally trying a MILD but I kept getting hypnagogic imagery and decided to abandom my MILD attempt for a WILD and it eventually paid off! I was trying to enter the dream by manipulating the images and noises I could hear (my breathing and a plane flying) but I couldn't do it but regardless I got my WILD so thats progress

      edit: wow I just saw your post haha I will finish this post later then, thanks for the reply haha!

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      wow there was a one minute difference from our last post times in this thread :O and thanks! it was very exciting to experience another WILD. Actually although it is exciting I think I have had enough LD's where the initial excitement doesn't make the lucid incredibly unstable and blurry :O Also thanks for the advice regarding the void. I think there was similar things said about the void in one of the dv podcasts so I will try and find it that could potentially help me a lot. I also like the ideas of the motionless rcs because I think the last time I encountered the void I questioned whether I have actually been fully awoken or not and had I done a motionless RC It could of helped
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      Keep track of the various things that you have been doing lately...log them in your home DJ or here. There are often several pieces to the puzzle that when used together give you the best chance of continuing to have lucids, so it is good to keep track of all that you are doing and any changes that you make. I may have gotten some of my void ideas from the very same podcast...love them!

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      yeah, yesterday I got back into dream journaling, I guess I can keep track of it a little better though (e.g put in sleep times, wbtb times, supplements taken, highlight dream signs) Yeah the podcasts are a give some good information and they aren't boring to listen to despite their length haha!

      Since I have only recently got back into lding I think my recall had dropped a bit (remembered 3 fragments last night) but I'm sure it will get better, also I have to make it a habit of every time I wake up to write my dreams down rather than just telling myself I will write it down in the morning because I often forget what the dream was about earlier on in the night
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      Okay haven't gotten around to posting my progress in a while but I had two lucids in the last two weeks which is cool, my recall has gone on a pretty big decline since I only got back into journaling a few days ago so I will learn from my mistake Actually I forgot a lot about my last two lucids because of it and who knows I could of had more lucids and not remember because of poor recall and that thought annoys me so time to take dream journaling seriously again
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