Thread: Steph´s DILD Workbook

Interesting StephL I can only recall a similar experience once I had a dream there was a blue goat that was getting chased by a bigger blue creature and later on that night I was telling someone about that exact scene and I even had a flashback in the dream repeating the scene. They are unusual experiences

They are spd - thanks for sharing!
I believe by thinking about such instances, one might be able to gain a bit of insight into the workings of dreaming-mind memory.
What I have quite often, is that certain features of my dream-sceneries stays more or less the same over many dreams.
Something derived from actual reality, but with distinct features, which are missing irl.
Like for example a little wooden house, I had built in a dream to have something to sleep in, when visiting the place I grew up, since my mother moved away. It's rather a small shack - and I have dreamt of it at least three times. I don't have overly good recall, so it might have been much more often.
And many more things - a flat with similar to identical layout, which is completely dream-generated, not a memory.
Funnily for a while, I had often dreamt of our old house still standing and me staying there. So I used it as dream-sign - incubated it. But after getting lucid twice from realizing, it has been ripped down irl - the stupid thing doesn't show up any more...
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Hach - dreams are so fascinating but it can be so frustrating as well!!

Originally Posted by StephL

That makes perfect sense - I keep trying to hold on to what is already there - if I have a mindset of - okay so it changes, lets see what comes next, or try spinning to get something next - that could well work!
Thank you!

I had a weird dream again, with spillover from one into the following:
Dreaming of Having a Shared Dream! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I have many instances with in-dream-memories of prior dreams - hach - still got it open to argue some points with dutch in another thread about if nonlucids lay down their own memories. It's not just that simple, the exchange - but again I have a new example for my point..
And I didn't wake up between these two dreams.

Interesting! I wonder if that is how some of the reports of shared or precog dreams come about! So Hypnosis might be helping with more detailed recall? Have you had other notable effects?

Heehehe - yeah - maybe some reports have such a background. As long as I don't become religious while dreaming - it's all in the green, I guess. The precog thing was something I really considered to be the case in that dream, while the SD the last one made me analyse and talk to people, and argue, how it's not actually possible in my view. But I was planning in that dream, to open a thread about it on here, and sort out my mind and affairs publicly. Again - a dream in which I am perfectly able to think and rationalize and discuss such a complex topic quite properly - but I didn't notice, that I was dreaming in a completely different context than my life now, and it didn't occur to me to RC either. rolleyes.gif


Weell - last night I was shortly lucid, having done a hypnosis session the day before yesterday, without doing it once more.
And that again after ages of doing nothing and having no LDs - comparatively good recall again, too.
I don't do the recall section, but believe the LDing one works for recall, too, because it directs your attention to the topic of dreaming overall.
The LD was a tiny bit longer than the last ones, maybe half a minute - but again very disappointing.
If I didn't have my LDs breaking down so fast - I would find it glorious and throw the script at anybody, who is not on the tree by the count of three.
I had lucids with every time I did it - either directly the night, or one or two nights later. It didn't ever fall short of that. And I did it without other daytime-practice - except twice with image-streaming in close temporal vicinity.
But since my "successes" frustrate me - I almost don't see them as such any more.
The last 5 lucid mini-instances didn't even make it into my count..girl_sad.gif

The problem with the hypnosis script is, that after doing it 3 times - it was mighty boring the 4th time, and my attention began to rattle it's cage and wanted it done and over with. I guess, this is a common problem. They say, doing it ten times would be really strong then, but I wonder, if I go through with it. I probably will.
Yes - it does something!
I'll try image-streaming today as well - I believe that could help me, esp. for visual stability - and it is a wondrous thing. I did a bit of visualization in that vein three nights ago, going to bed, and it seems it has meanwhile again gained "substance" - the visualisations are really not only imagination any more, but something other, much clearer. Getting clearer yet, once I attach words and describe, what I see. You should try that as well one day! Also something, which gets stronger with repetition. And last time was pretty astounding. For some reason, the images start to race, when you reach a certain mind-set, and when you grapple to wrap words around and about it, it gets even clearer, but races relentlessly on - it's fascinating!

Did I link the hypnosis script up in here? Why not try it out yourself!? At the very least it is quite relaxing.

I had to ask my husband to do a trick with the file, so that it was possible to print it out. What I plan, is to scan it and then transform the whole thing into a word-document and add my own suggestions and print it out again. If you have technical problems - just pm me in order to find out how to do that!

Maybe the thing is, that I got to do other additional stuff in order to have the LDs last longer - but I'd say, getting there by hypnotizing oneself is entirely possible and seems rather easy, too.

Still having my finger hovering over the supps-ordering-trigger by the way. I forgot, if I asked before - did you try supps?

Yeeah!!
It worked - I got lucid again, and like usual - within seconds I completely lost optics.
Thinking of you and Ophelia, who had reported something along these lines, too - I just relaxed, told myself not to worry, it would come back and it did. Only after walking and talking blindly for a while - but I know now, that my LDs don't actually crash, when that happens. That I jolly well can keep on dreaming like that. The result was a really loong LD - the first in months, which was so extended. And started exactly like all the "crap" I had in the meantime. What a waste!
Very happy to have done a basic task, too. It was in between such a realistic dream incl. optics, that I had to reality-re-check several times. But I also had to re-force optics several times. I guess, I have an expectation about them crashing meanwhile, and am just now starting to properly counter-act.
Soo happy!
I also tried out commands - like more clarity and vividness, and the dream - bit sluggishly and reluctantly - did what I said!
After having gotten optics going again, that is.
I did some MILD yesterday in addition to the probably lasting effect of the hypnosis. Just took 3 cues and tried to RC on them - I missed many, but RCed on some. Otherwise - I woke up naturally after about 4 h, got up shortly and went back to bed with some affirmations. And I did journal yesterday - not on here, but anyway.
These things surely helped - maybe esp. the RCs - but I am still believing it is mainly the hypnosis, which is responsible for my renewed lucidity.

Conclusions:

I get lucids with only a little effort - and thanks to you and to Ophelia, I don't abort them in the first seconds any more, but battle through dream-blindness and into the light!

Very nice, congrats. I have yet to get a good long LD, gotta avoid those temptations! I had a short lucid last night where I also lost visuals immediately (happens when I get lucid right after a dream forms sometimes). I rubbed my hands vigorously in the dark and started to feel them really well, then I did a silly dance hopping from foot to foot and could feel my feet hitting the "ground", I just kept doing that waiting for visuals to return, then either I woke up rubbing my hands for real in the bed in the darkness, or I had a FA and missed it.

What is your hypnosis regimen? I think I have the pdf, do you the dream recall one or the lucid dream one? And did I understand that you do it multiple times back to back, or just once before bed?

Thank you FryingMan!
I used the script I linked up in here - got it from Sybyline - and I only did the LDing session, not the recall one, and once a day, and all together four times now.
I will insert some text of my own and also include WILD.
The most important thing of last night is, that I have renewed belief in my LDs in terms of length and stability, and such am much more motivated than over the last weeks.
I am no stranger to getting erotically distracted in LDs, too - but it never constituted a problem, actually.
Steel your mind - you can do it!

And - another one!
I was too lazy for a whole hypno-session, but I read the LD text just like that, because I wrote some additional text for the session today - maybe that was enough?

Originally Posted by StephL

Did I link the hypnosis script up in here? Why not try it out yourself!? At the very least it is quite relaxing.

Still having my finger hovering over the supps-ordering-trigger by the way. I forgot, if I asked before - did you try supps?

I think that you did. At some point, I saved the link from you or Sibyline as a favorite. I do plan to experiment with that hypnosis script at some point soon.

I still haven't tried supps, unless you count the occasional apple juice.

Originally Posted by StephL

Conclusions:

I get lucids with only a little effort - and thanks to you and to Ophelia, I don't abort them in the first seconds any more, but battle through dream-blindness and into the light!

Awesome development! I am so happy for you Steph!!

Originally Posted by StephL

And - another one!
I was too lazy for a whole hypno-session, but I read the LD text just like that, because I wrote some additional text for the session today - maybe that was enough?

Awesome, awesome, awesome!! Keep it up! I am interested in what you added to it. Did you ever convert it to word format?

Wooould you believe it - another one - and again without another repetition!!
Night before last night I didn't have one, but I went to bed at 5 am then - no wonder.
There was quite some stress yesterday too, and I got to bed extremely late again - 3 am this time.
So I didn't prepare in any way - like WBTB and thinking about a task, or generally putting me in the right mindset to take the opportunity properly
This lead to me using lucidity only for making whooping sounds and flying about and loosing lucidity somewhere along the way - my memories are failing me, how the transition back happened. But anyway! And no optical troubles this time. I get the impression, that these come about rather when my mental clarity is really high, not when I just go about it "childishly" - like uiii - I can fly..
I guess it is the clear knowledge, that all visuals are produced by my mind - and I seem to not properly trust it in doing this, when I'm consciously watching it.
Like I have no idea how to do it - ergo - my mind = I can also not possibly be doing it or something.

Looking forward to your experiments, fogelbise!
And to my fifth session, too - I have written a bit of extra text now - a WILD extension, basically - and will hopefully do it today.
But it seems like this fourth one especially has somewhat opened the lucid gates for me. Maybe it is really cumulative and getting stronger and stronger the more you do it, like they say. They also said, that if something wouldn't come along as expected - it could take up to 10 sessions to properly install it. So I wonder - will I be lucid every night, going on with it?
I have a strange quirk, though - I sort of am afraid to go on, not to find out, that it doesn't work after all, and was just my momentary expectations..

Balderdash of course I'll go on!!




Edit: I am not on my own pc at the moment, but yes I have it in word, and I'll post it all later!

Congrats on your continued success! This all sounds very promising! I will await further reports!

I might put it into my old hypnosis thread - but while I am at it - this is the script transformed into text format so you can print it and change it and add stuff. What is in the spoiler is the draft of my own addition - it needs proper editing - which is one of my main hobbies after all!
Probably I should throw out references to the noise - I just wish I had it again ..redface.gif
Maybe best leave out what's in the spoiler - at least for the first iterations - or in general!

And I still didn't do the 5th - procrastinating for a range of reasons - real life, boredom, fear of failure (not really), drunkenness (äham..).
Lack of personal peace and lack of novelty - personal stupidity - whatever.
For those not being aware - you read it to yourself aloud!
Anyway - here goes:


THE INSTANT SELF-HYPNOSIS READER'S INDUCTION:

"Feeling a sense of privacy and comfort, I allow the sound of my own voice to soothe my mind and body while I speak slowly and softly. My body is slowing down as though everything is moving in slow motion. With every word I read and every sound I utter, I feel more relaxed and at peace.
Moment by moment, my mind is becoming as clear as the surface of a calm and quiet mountain lake.

"As my mind clears, I use my imagination to relax more deeply while I read. I imagine that I am sitting on a comfortable chair on a beautiful beach. With my peripheral vision, I see the golden sand that surrounds me ... and the waves crashing on the shore. I hear the gentle and rhythmic sounds they make. I feel a moist sea breeze waft over my body. I notice the warm sun on my skin. I feel its golden touch on my scalp, allowing me to let go of any excess tension in my scalp.
All of my thoughts seem to quiet down now as I concentrate my attention on the sun's warmth on my face ... on my cheeks ... on my ears ... and around my jaw. The healing light seems to caress my neck and to warm my throat, allowing the words to flow easily and effortlessly from my mouth. It feels as though hundreds of tiny fingers of light are massaging my shoulders and my upper back as I relax-waves of warmth and relaxation cascade down ... down my arms and out through my fingers.
"As I take a slow breath and exhale I become aware of this relaxing feeling filling my chest (take a breath and exhale slowly). A golden-yellow radiance floods my solar plexus as I take another slow breath and release it (take another breath) ...
and I feel sense of tranquillity and deep peacefulness fill my entire stomach area. I mentally scan my hips, pelvis, and buttocks ... and let any tension or anxiety there be gently washed away by a stream of light. I become aware of my legs now ... they are almost aglow as sunlight floods down through them. My legs feel so relaxed. Even my feet and toes feel warm and comfortable ... warm and comfortable now.
"As I bask in the glorious sun, I imagine closing my eyes as I prepare to hypnotize myself. I draw three slow deep breaths (draw three deep breaths). For a few moments I can see the glow of orange light through my closed eyelids. But now that light fades into a comforting darkness as I draw my attention inward ... inward ... toward the center of my mind.

"I imagine that I am approaching a tall, modern, and familiar building. I walk through the revolving door and step into a beautiful lobby. Inside the building stands a strong, armed security guard who secures the building from intruders. The guard looks at me with a steely glare, but then recognizes me as the owner of the building. The guard works for me. I give the guard a self-satisfied nod and make my way toward the elevator. I see the reflection of myself in the mirrorlike surface of the elevator doors. I look relaxed and confident. I press the down arrow and the doors of the elevator open. I feel very safe as I step into a spacious and luxurious elevator car. I turn toward the panel of buttons which indicate the floor numbers. I press the number ten, which lights up as the elevator doors close. The elevator car begins to move down smoothly through the long, deep elevator shaft... with a very gentle humming sound. I watch the numbered lights above the door as they change. Each number lights up for a moment as the elevator moves past the indicated floor.
As the numbers change ... one by one ... 1 feel myself descending to a wonderful place within myself. .. far beneath the surface.

"One ... 1 watch the numbers as the elevator moves down ... deeper down with every number.
"Two ... deeper beneath the surface of this great structure ... down below the surface now.
"Three by the time I reach the tenth number, I will be hypnotized.
"Four 1 will be hypnotized with my eyes open ... open to all beneficial suggestions.
"Five I feel myself descending ... smoothly ... effortlessly.
"Six still watching the number change above the door. .. one by one.
"Seven ... going deeper now ... feeling peaceful and relaxed.
"Eight. .. 1 am safe .. .I feel calm ... going down ... down ... deeper down.
"Nine 1 allow myself to enter into hypnosis with my eyes open.
"Ten the elevator car comes to a smooth halt as I reach my destination.
"As the doors open, I enter into a comfortably furnished reading room. A burning log in the fireplace crackles and blazes brightly, as if welcoming me into the chamber. I approach a very comfortable-looking chair and sit down. I pick up a book on a small table next to the chair. I read the cover of the book, which says Instant Self Hypnosis. I open the book and begin to read. And the words address me directly and seem to jump off of the pages and into my mind. Here is what they say:
You are now hypnotized with your eyes open. You are now highly suggestible. You will remain in hypnosis while you read the suggestions for your goal. Your mind soaks in the suggestions now the way a sponge soaks in water. You can easily stay hypnotized with your eyes open until you read the 'Wake-Up.' You remain calm and focused as you turn to your bookmark.'"

(Please turn to your selected script.)


LUCID DREAMS TONIGHT:

The following suggestions are designed to encourage dreams in which one becomes self-aware.
"I become aware that I am dreaming while I continue to dream. I am now able to realize while asleep that I am in the midst of a dream. I am aware when I am dreaming, and I control my own actions. I have lucid dreams, without waking up from sleep. I will realize that I am actually asleep in bed but that I am still asleep as I dream. I will become a self-aware observer as well as a participant of my dreams. When I become aware that I am dreaming, I have more control over my dreams. I am able to effect the outcome of my dreams as I become self-aware while dreaming. I will have more fun while I sleep as I become lucid while dreaming.
"I imagine myself in bed asleep at night. From somewhere deep inside my mind .. .images, sounds, and feelings are conjured, as my mind's inner movie projector presents a dream.
Suddenly, in a flash of insight, I feel myself become aware that the images are a projection of my mind ... 1 realize that I am in the middle of a dream. I am completely aware that what I see, hear, and feel is a product of my own mind. I also realize that I can say or do anything I wish to say or do in the dream as the dream continues. I can even choose to change the images and events in the dream by gently and confidently using my will power.
"I am a lucid dreamer now. I experience lucid dreams.

Spoiler for my WILD addition draft - to be improved ..:

I do not only realize, that I am dreaming, while I am in the dream – I am also able to transition into a lucid dream directly from the waking state.
It comes naturally to me to balance awareness exactly so, that I am able to fall asleep, while I remain completely lucid at the same time, like in waking life.
My intentions for the dream - what I daydream about before the transition - will be part of my lucid dream later on.
I concentrate on my breathing, and I watch the images on the back of my eyelids, and relax. I experience vibrations then, and glide over effortlessly into my lucid dream. The transition from waking state into the lucid dream comes completely naturally to me, it is effortless and takes only a few minutes of patience for its completion.
All of my lucid dreams are long, and vivid, and very stable – everything looks feels and sounds completely realistic, or even hyper-realistic, right from the start. The visual quality of my dreams is extraordinarily good, even sublime, over the full duration of my lucid dreams.
All my other senses are working on such a level of quality as well, and I am in full control of my dream-body, and of my actions and interactions with my inner virtual world. I am always fully aware, that I am dreaming, and that all I experience in my dream, is a product of my own imagination. I can do anything I want in my lucid dreams – change the scenery, teleport, summon things or people, transform into another creature – and anything else, this mind of mine can think up! I am confident in my mastery of the dreamworld - dream-control of any level comes easily to me, naturally.

Beginning tonight, I will produce a dream in which I become self-aware. I will know that I am dreaming and that I have full control over my actions in the dream. I will remember the lucid dreams that I have so that I can enjoy thinking about them the next day. I am a lucid dreamer. I have lucid dreams when I sleep."

(The Wake-Up)

"I will awaken from hypnosis by counting to five. When I reach the number five, I will become fully alert and wide awake. One ... beginning to awaken from hypnosis. Two ... becoming aware of my surroundings ... feeling satisfied, safe, and comfortable. Three .. .looking forward to positive results from this hypnosis session. Four. .. feeling absolutely wonderful. FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... now wide awake and fully alert."


Don't do a wakeup in between, if you do two scripts, of course. And my stuff is untested and I found language to be important - it didn't work in translation to German - at least not as well - didn't feel as hypnotizing. And I personally would do recall first, if I did both, which I didn't yet.


AMAZING DREAM RECALL:

The following suggestions are designed to promote retention of dreams upon awakening.
"I remember my dreams when I wake up in the morning. My memory of my dreams and all of the details gets better and better every day. Upon awakening, I'm able to recall the images, sounds, and feelings I experienced in my dreams. I can do this very easily and effortlessly. I retain ... in vivid detail. .. the events as they appeared in my dreams. I value the ability of my subconscious mind to create dreams for me. I am strengthening the communication between my conscious and subconscious minds right now through the tool of hypnosis. And I use hypnosis as a means to instruct my subconscious to allow perfect recall of my dreams upon awakening. My mind records and remembers dreams that are important for me to recall.
"I feel a sense of satisfaction that I am able to recount the images and events from my dreams. I am able to recall dreams and write down all details with total clarity if I choose. By remembering my dreams, I will gain insights to my life in order to live better and be more productive. I imagine waking up in the morning now, after a restful night's sleep. As I lay in bed, I remain quiet and allow my mind to recall the details of an important dream I had while asleep. I picture myself remembering the dream so vividly ... that it's like experiencing it all over again, even while I am awake. The details are vivid and bright, and the events are fresh in my mind. I reach for a notepad or journal next to the bed and I write down the dream I had with perfect clarity. I can remember exactly how the dream began, how it ended ... and all of the details of the dream in between. First this, then that, and so on ... until I have recalled the entire dream. From now on, when I wake up, the memory of dreams from the night instantly surface in my mind ... swiftly and with ease and clarity. Tomorrow morning when I awaken naturally from sleep, I will pause for a minute before getting out of bed. And as I relax for a minute, the memory of the night's dreams will become fully active. I will remember the night's dreams with complete ease. I will let the vivid details of the dreams rise to the surface of my awareness. I will have total and amazing recall of my dreams."

(The Wake-Up)

"I will awaken from hypnosis by counting to five. When I reach the number five, I will become fully alert and wide awake. One ... beginning to awaken from hypnosis. Two ... becoming aware of my surroundings ... feeling satisfied, safe, and comfortable. Three .. .looking forward to positive results from this hypnosis session. Four ... feeling absolutely wonderful. FIVE ... FIVE ... FIVE ... now wide awake and fully alert."

Huge thank you to the author FORBES ROBBINS BLAIR for making parts of his book available!


Happy testing and wish me luck to finally overcome procrastination doing the fifth.
And one more thing - got lucid last night again - but decided to go on dreaming non-lucidly, because it was nice - and because I am an idiot.

Thanks for the post! Do you read it every time or did you record your voice and play it back? I've read through this a few times at bedtime myself, and I like it, but I find that my reading distracts from the visualization and the relaxing a little bit, especially doing down the elevator. So I'll try voice recording it and see how it goes.

I recall reading in his directions that the relaxation part should be read with a level and relaxing tone, but the specific theme part that follows the elevator descent should be read with emphasis and emotion and excitement, just FYI.

Oh, and my wife completed a number of courses in hypnotherapy, and she always tells me that the mind does not accept negative statements, so avoid all "not...", "no..." etc. forms -- always frame everything positively. I noticed this at the start of your WILD spoiler.

I always read it out loud up to now!
Yeah - the spoiler is under construction - thanks for the pointer!

Thank you Steph! Trying this tonight! The author suggested to do a separate session if working on more than one thing (e.g. dream recall and lucid dreaming...doing only one per session...perhaps one of those two in the afternoon and the other in the evening). It sounds like the way you were doing it as well. And good luck to you on buckling down and completing a fifth session.

Just been finally doing number 5 without my extension.
I wanted to rather use the evening like usual - but all my evenings lately sprang some surprise or other on me, and I didn't want to risk failing to do it again ..rolleyes.gif
Now I am eagerly and a bit fretfully awaiting the hopefully even more impressive results than last time!
If nothing happens - well - then I can think about it - but for now I will expect only the best!

Originally Posted by Fryingman

I recall reading in his directions that the relaxation part should be read with a level and relaxing tone, but the specific theme part that follows the elevator descent should be read with emphasis and emotion and excitement

I can feel my voice change in exactly that way on its own - the change in tonality feels typically hypnotic - theoretically you could override it - but you simply don't want to. This was giving me confidence in the effectiveness right from the start - that I got an unusual/atypical tone of voice (two different ones - the relaxing and the emphatic one, both not like my usual English voice) without consciously willing it.
Please tell us, how it goes with recording!



Edit: Too late to edit the above - but please check for little mistakes, before printing the scripts - there are some numbers "1" instead of I at the elevator, and two times a plural "s" is missing.

Hm - three nights nothing now.
Somehow I was afraid of this being the case - see my procrastination posts. Well - good.
I'll do one more session today and go the usual extended way with proper WBTB and a bit of MILD and RCs in the day, too.

Ha - mooment - edit:
Thinking back a bit more properly - I had at least a dream about LDing the night after the 5th repetition - posted that in the one-sentence-dreams:

I was with 4 other people, sitting on stools in a semicircle, each with a wine barrel in front of us - open at the top, and we looked inside, and were very disappointed, because none of us had enough lucidity in their barrel to go dreaming with it! Mine had just a puddle of murky fluid 1 cm deep..

And now while writing a bit of DJ - I remember an episode, which should have made me lucid last night:

I looked out the window, and saw a quite indistinct street, expecting to see Munich - and then I thought - ah - this is okay, the view from my dream-flats is usually a bit mixed up...
How could I not react to that!!??

And I remember one more time, when I have thought - I might fly the rest of the way - and then thought - na - this is not a dream.

Well, well, well - I think I need way better recall to get these small hints in-dream - why I think that, I don't quite know, but I feel, what I really need at the moment is muuch better recall!

Originally Posted by StephL

Just been finally doing number 5 without my extension.

Good job!

Originally Posted by StephL

Ha - mooment - edit:
Thinking back a bit more properly - I had at least a dream about LDing the night after the 5th repetition - posted that in the one-sentence-dreams:

And now while writing a bit of DJ - I remember an episode, which should have made me lucid last night:

I was with 4 other people, sitting on stools in a semicircle, each with a wine barrel in front of us - open at the top, and we looked inside, and were very disappointed, because none of us had enough lucidity in their barrel to go dreaming with it! Mine had just a puddle of murky fluid 1 cm deep..

Well, well, well - I think I need way better recall to get these small hints in-dream - why I think that, I don't quite know, but I feel, what I really need at the moment is muuch better recall!

That sounded like some kind of meaningful dream related to you being worried about the well running dry...no worries, it is only temporary (the three days being semi-dry).

The dream recall self-hypnosis perhaps! Or standard mantra or other tricks that you know...

Yupp - going to do the recall session today - been kept off doing my stuff again yesterday, except some RCs and too tired for WBTB.
It was quite good last night - I had 2 complete dreams after waking up - but the I-Phone was out of juice and I didn't record them. Maybe I'll try to bring it back later in parts for DJ.

I forgot to mention an almost WILD success in a nap yesterday:

Originally Posted by StephL

I was sooo close just before!
Taking a nap, concentrating on my breathing, watching the optics on the back of my eyelids, which were really interesting - and they stayed to be looked at properly for a while at times, and crystallized to scenes at times as well. Bit of mantraing..
And then - that was not the first thing - of all things, I had before dreamt of stuffing candy in my mouth - but then I dreamt of scratching an itch on my chin - and realized, that my arm was at the time lying next to me, and not scratching!!
That jolted me awake then - damn!!

Originally Posted by StephL

Yeah - it's so hard for me to keep my cool when "something happens" in a WILD attempt - tends to give me a surge of excitement, physically.
Thankfully that doesn't happen in DILD - but at least this time something did happen, and I'll hopefully get used to the craziness of it all soon!
Bit paradoxical, this - I obviously did dream already - but I didn't know that - so technically it wasn't an LD - despite me being otherwise of almost waking-life functionality, cognitively. On the other hand - why find it normal to take a piece of candy and eat it in the middle of a WILD attempt. I would never do that - so I was clouded after all.

Glad to hear that you made some progress on the WILD attempt. From those two quotes, it sounds like you already got some feedback from the expert.

I meant to include in my post yesterday (I was rushing) that I did use the lucid dreaming self hypnosis script several days ago and I am assuming that it was the reason for some multiple LDs. Thank you again Steph! Yesterday I did the recall script but last night I played two grueling league games and was knocked out for the night, so results on the recall script TBD.

This is great!!
Congratulation on the multiple LDs!

Hi fogelbise!


Long time no see - I hope you are fine!
I am (again) - and especially I am happy that I had four count-worthy LDs and some little lucid moments throughout the last two weeks without actually doing something for them, or even posting and reading on here.

Last night again - and it was a long one, where I knew it was a dream all the while - but I wasn't properly clear either. I had almost no control, and the dream-scene was shifty, a bit wishi-washi and I couldn't rely on turning around and having the same (boring) stuff behind me as before.
It felt a bit as if I was in a computer-simulation and there was a problem with cable-connections or something.

The only thing that was nice, was finding that I can still take off with pointing my arm somewhere - and it's still much too fast for leisurely flying about or navigating on the fly. Seems to be coming with that super-woman schema, I'm drawing on.

But yeah - summoning - nope. Which might have had to do with a certain indecision and not concentrating properly.
In the end I didn't know what to do and thought - ah to heck with it - I could just as well try populating an aquarium just for myself.
Couldn't find one though - only a scenery like the Northern See shore here in Germany and in a grey and depressing weather. I went in and diving - that worked, I needed no air - but there was nobody, and I didn't manage to summon or even right-out create somebody either. Hm.
Just water and sand and some dead sea-weed.

I'll see what I can do with a bit of incubation - my main lucid goal didn't even cross my mind - namely to start my lucid darting again finally.
And my darting has a little renaissance at the moment - including my old virtual home around the topic - and I have a brand-new set of daarts!

Yes, long time indeed...I have missed interacting with you. Nice results on the lucids!! Do you think it is attributable to your self-hypnosis script and sessions? I have seen a number of successful lucid dreamers say that you eventually stop having LDs if you stop putting in some sort of effort or habit, but perhaps a certain amount of the self-hypnosis work can prove otherwise. That would be nice! Sometimes we can also create a clog in the lucid dreaming pipeline when we try too hard and then when we stop trying the gates open up for a little while. I hope it is a long term trend though! I have been so busy and slacking on my practices but I do intend to do some more self-hypnosis sessions. I did have good recall results the night of my first recall session but need to do more sessions and then plan to go back to the lucid script.

Yes, some incubation and some focus should bring you the results you are looking for. I wouldn't worry in the least about any of the challenges that you mentioned above...all temporary I'm sure.

Maybe it has to do with my hypnosis sessions - it could really be. As I said to another opportunity - I really get bored too easily - last time I stopped reading aloud in mid-script, but I might come to record something to listen to instead.

It's actually a great feeling not to have to do anything and one or two show up on their own per week!
But quality really needs working on.