I think I need to change something up because I still havent had once since last friday. |
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You bring up a good point, Mr. Fogel, but I have addressed it since te beginning. I just forgot to add it to my workbook I go to bed at 9, wake up at around 3 for WBTB, and then sleep until 6:20. I actually am getting MORE sleep than when I wasn't practicing lucid dreaming! |
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I think I need to change something up because I still havent had once since last friday. |
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Edit: Actually, Im going to continue to use the exact same methods and techniques the exact same way for the next 2 weeks so i can rule out whether or not they work for me. No changes will be made to my practices. |
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Lucid dreamer in training
It is quite normal early in your practices to have a little dip before continuing to progress upwards and onwards. I wouldn't worry at all. Now if there is something new in your practices that doesn't feel right for you, we could talk about that. If everything seems to feel right, then I like your plan below. |
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Ah Mr. Fogel, if only it was that simple. Too bad im so anxious and want to try to do a WILD tonight! Sorry it just sounds so tempting. Maybe they will be better for me than DILDS. |
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Thank you . Nothing wrong with trying WILDs...if you end up falling asleep without awareness initially, it often kicks in later for a DILD and can increase DILDs and DEILDs the same night after a successful WILD. DEILDs are the "easiest" form of WILD but the "easy" part is when waking from an LD. |
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That is a good observation! No lucid from me, but only because I gave up on the WILD when my arm got sore. I guess its best not to have it up by my head (i sleep on my stomach). Any uncomfortableness becomes untolerable for me, but I will try again tonght! |
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I am not great at WILDs yet but I do know that it is a balancing act where some people who fall asleep too easily and quickly may need to be a little uncomfortable in order to carry some awareness into sleep...and then others who experience things like the pain in your arm will need to find a more comfortable position. The most obvious but overlooked step to WILDing is "falling asleep" as weird as that sounds. Source: Why You Fail at WILDs - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views |
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Thanks fo the tips! |
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Try not to get discouraged and try to see this as a learning journey. But to answer your question, I would say to try putting just a little more thought and effort into your day practices and combine WBTB with SSILD to give you the best chance of getting your next lucid. At the same time, I think it is helpful to not worry or stress about your next lucid and try to take the mindset that it will happen when it happens while doing what you need to do to help it happen. |
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Great advice from Mr. Fogel again! I have a couple of updates for my progress. |
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Lucid dreamer in training
I like how you are adjusting parts of your approach in ways that make sense. |
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Hey Mr. Fogel great news!!! 5th lucid last night! |
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Lucid dreamer in training
Awesome Sean!! Getting lucid from any method is always awesome and you now have a new tool in your arsenal! Congrats!! Though I don't focus on WILDs as much, I do like them! |
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Something important for every newbie: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html
Listen while you work or before bed? http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-podcast/
More great audio: http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-audio/
My lucid dreaming journey: http://www.dreamviews.com/members/fo...boutme#aboutme
Hey again Mr. Fogel! Good news! I've been lucid the last 2 nights. |
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Lucid dreamer in training
Keep it up Sean!! You are on a roll!! Remember to keep doing the day practices! It is easy to let up on those by thinking that you don't need them anymore which would be a mistake, at least at your or my stage of practice. |
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Something important for every newbie: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html
Listen while you work or before bed? http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-podcast/
More great audio: http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-audio/
My lucid dreaming journey: http://www.dreamviews.com/members/fo...boutme#aboutme
Alright so 8th lucid last night! That means 3/4 of the past 4 nights Ive been lucid! Let me note some changes. |
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Thanks again Mr. Fogel! You're one of the few teachers i have a lot of respect for |
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You are too kind! I am guessing that you are thinking of school teachers since we have a great bunch of DV teachers in various parts of DV. We have some real gems currently active...I was going to mention some names but I didn't want to leave anyone out. |
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Yes i am speaking of school teachers of course, all the DV teachers are amazing |
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Lucid dreamer in training
Mr fogel.. Ive been getting so lazy with my practices. Uncaring RC's, not actually doing a tech with WBTB, and not even recording dreams |
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Lucid dreamer in training
Don't forget our challenge! It will be harder to start over later, so find some motivation before you find yourself coming back to this years later. Read or relive some of you favorite dreams, lucid or non-lucid to find some motivation and find your favorite corner of the forums here at DV that will keep LDing on your mind. |
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Something important for every newbie: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html
Listen while you work or before bed? http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-podcast/
More great audio: http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-audio/
My lucid dreaming journey: http://www.dreamviews.com/members/fo...boutme#aboutme
Ugh. Well here i am mr fogel. |
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Lucid dreamer in training
2 months later is better than 2 years later...no worries. What has been going on with you?..or where would you like to go from here? |
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Something important for every newbie: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html
Listen while you work or before bed? http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-podcast/
More great audio: http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews-audio/
My lucid dreaming journey: http://www.dreamviews.com/members/fo...boutme#aboutme
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