Thread: RelaxAndDream´s Workbook

Originally Posted by RelaxAndDream

this one is really good i remembering doing it some years ago with pretty big impact on my recall. but it needs quite some time (30-45min when i do it in max detail) and is a way of meditation on its own because you often often loose track and need to refocus... i found it pretty timeconsuming because i also wanted to meditate in the evening back then... maybe i try it in a lighter more relaxed way less detailed... i will keep it in the back of my head... so far i make good progress and dont want to give 110% again...^^

You don't have to do the whole day (although the more time one spends on this, the better, I'd think). What I sometimes do is make special note of a few/several moments and specifically intend to review those in the evening.

how do you connect with your dreams very closely?...

It's a combination of factors and practices: intending strongly to pay attention to and remember dream experiences. Being thankful for and valuing your dreams, especially non-lucid ones. Developing a practice of reaching for recall immediately upon waking. Realizing fully that you do dream, a lot, every night. Having full confidence and expectation that you will remember your dreams at length and in great detail. Having great, consistent dream recall is a sign that you've established such a connection...

sofar i am back on a similar level as before... that was faster then expected... if i dont need to get up early i just go for sleep i dont go too much for recall in first half of night. its enough to recall anything to go for lucidity (MILD) in second half... the last several tries i always got lucid when i tried. i combine SSILD with MILD. i think about what i want to do then i do some short SSILD cycles to calm down and focus my mind then i turn on my side when i feel that i fall asleep soon (noticing slight hypnagogia) and say my mantra or one or two more cycles. this needs not too much time or effort but nevertheless i really need to want to be lucid and know what i want to do with it. sofar (probably because i am not very long in training again) i dont get spontaneous lucids. so effort to lucidity rate is good...

so i had a talk with someone that led me to the conclusion that i slowly step by step need to get trust in my DC`s before i might get proper answers. similar with phasing you dont just run thru a wall first time but fist you do just a hand than maybe backwards thru a wall until you step by step loose the schemata that walls are solid after some time its no problem and second nature....
so with this in mind i decided not to want THE solution and a dreamguide or help or anything from a DC but i set the goal to be nice to my DCs and just have a proper talk. not a good or a useful or something like this talk (again a lot of evaluation and expectation) but just some random talk with DC´s.
and what should i say it was very very nice... recall was not too good because of several DEILDS (for some reason after a waking with little movement i remembered a talk with a friend of mine who told me she can go to the toilet and back and dream same dream because she holds to the feeling so i just calmly waited and had several DEILDS in that night) but it was nice to be good to my DC´s and treat them with respect and be friendly without expectation.

sadly this nights lucid i wanted to ask if they might teach / i might learn something from them but for some reason i got stuck in old habit... i asked a DC that looked like a friend if he can help me he just talked a lot of stuff (seemed not to be interesting ... again this expectation and evaluation :/) then i was running away asked into the sky for help started nearly crying... asked god for help (i am not religious...) then got angry and was running again. i saw some plants on the ground (i was looking for any sign). they had different colors and i thought each plant is for an element or a characteristic. i ate the one next to yellow because for me yellow was sun and fire. it was sour but i didnt saw an effect... after that i was running away from some mafia guys draw a portal (didnt do that for quite some time) and entered into the void. there again i asked for help or guidance or something like that (cant remember exact wording) and nothing there. false awakening shortly awake...
this dream was "sad" because i was so desperate...

it seems like i try to hard and cant wait for proper signs or an outcome or just see what happens...

i think i will try again with just talking to DC´s without any specific theme or expectation. it felt very good... on the other hand it is a goal that is vague so i see the problem of loosing lucidity or atleast higher awareness to medium awareness and i dont know when i complete task so i can do something else... but yea its all about small steps maybe the one and only goal to just befriend and get to know DC´s might be goal enough for a lucid...

plus i really enjoyed the let a DC sing you a song TOTM... maybe i will try to listen to some of my favorite music in a lucid - i have radiohead in my mind... should make an interesting feeling also...

so atleast two basic totms are done... i think i will try also an advanced one... how with you fogelbise. have you seen the tasks? maybe you also do one of them? would like to read one from you

i also writed charles. this might get a good dreambuddy. will see

@FM:
i will try not to forget... i might try it before falling asleep... but i think i need to experiment... i think its not about the major points in the day it is all about remembering with as much detail and as few gaps as possible to have a benefit on recall or what do you think? like its better to do last hour or so with max detail instead of half or all day with just the major points?
just a thought...

to the connect with your dreams... i reach out for recall most of the time and its getting better but i dont know if this is enough to really connect to my dreams... i feel like even tho i value them and i am into lucid dreaming nevertheless subcon. they are "just" dreams to me. some of them are interesting to see they have meaning but i think most of them is random noise... and that again is bad bad thinking but i dont know how to change it

@FM:
i will try not to forget... i might try it before falling asleep... but i think i need to experiment... i think its not about the major points in the day it is all about remembering with as much detail and as few gaps as possible to have a benefit on recall or what do you think? like its better to do last hour or so with max detail instead of half or all day with just the major points?
just a thought...

As always, it's all about what works for you. The point I'm trying to get across is that the more purposeful attention you can bring to your present moment, whether in the waking or dreaming state, the more vivid both the experience will be and the memory of the experience. The point of the review is having reaching for memories of prior experiences be a twice-daily occurrence: at least once in the waking day [e.g., in the evening before bed], and at least once in the morning after the dreaming night (or every time you wake up, if you like).

I think reaching back for memories from all through the day is very valuable. Especially establishing particular points you want to remember, perhaps using a mnemonic system. This helps you remember specific things in lucid dreams that you really want to make sure you recall upon waking.

"Connecting" is about the recall, the attitude, and the intention to make dreaming a purposeful part of your life. Having high dream recall is a sign of a strong connection.

Hi @RelaxandDream! I just read the last 4 posts in here. I figured it would be a good thing to try to keep up. I want to go back and review the earlier posts too, just didn't want to take on too much at once.

2 things I wanted to comment on:

waking life recall taking time

I have this too. Last night I did like 3,000 words of waking life recall. I wanted to be super, super thorough. Actually I had to finish it the next morning I was so thorough. I want to do a super, super thorough waking life recall. I think it will show me that if my waking life recall takes like 3 hours, maybe I need to simplify things somehow. I want to keep doing it because like @FryingMan said I want to have more clarity of mind, even just in waking life.

reading my own DJ

Ya. This one is big for me. And I'm not doing it!! I don't know where to find the time. I used to put my dreams as mp3 files and then listen back instead of radio in the car. but lately I'm trying not to use any audio at all while I'm doing tasks, just focus more. And alot of my reading time is stuff... other than my own dreams. IDK how to force myself to want to read my own dreams again. I write them, and recall them, but I feel like that's it. I feel like reviewing my own DJ gave me a better connection to my dreams. I think everyone's dreams have a specific feel so reviewing our own is different than reading others. Thats also the thing I am reading others DJ's but not my own. I don't know how to manage this.

Also, do you keep your dream journal online anywhere? I'll check your profile but I didn't use to see it. I'd like to read your dreams if you have them up. Hopefully I'm not taking on too much activities.