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      Got a little lazy yesterday after my huge night. I wasn't as diligent about my day work. stayed up late watching a movie ("forget it jake, it's chinatown.") Didn't plan a wbtb. Only halfassed some memory mantras and came out of the night with a fragment. What's the method here? I was expecting a bit of REM deficit because of the huge sleep the night before and i didn't want to set expectations for failure but is that just setting myself up for failure? You big onirenauts, do you power through every day on this tip? What's the scenario?

      Dream: drivign on a highway, seeing billboards of Jmac in different poses.
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      The longer I practice, the more I appreciate the near-dominating effect of conditions. For recall it seems to be for me some sort of exponential curve so that the earlier I get to bed before midnight I recall more and more, and every minute after midnight causes a very fast degradation. You can do day practice until you're blue in the face and pop a vein doing nose pinches, but if your sleep is not solid then you can expect poor results.

      Getting lucid IMO requires a "perfect storm" of different factors all coming together. You have to work on the fundamentals, but you also have to work on the synthesis.

      Keeping your attitude positive in general, setting strong intent, and maintaining the expectation that you'll be lucid are important to keep up. We all have to find the balance that allows us to keep these up enough, without getting exhausted or retreating into a LD practice cave in the himalayas.
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      my sleep patterns have been jacked for the last couple of nights. not catching that good rem. Would love a good night of sleep so i can remember some dreams!!!

      also, I've been reading Sageous' book "simply pay attention" It's wild. I'm loving it.
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      Recall starting to come back. Looking forward to a dedicated true WBTB session tonight. Last night I did do WBTB but just to pee. I didn't walk around and aware the world or anything like i usually do. Can't reccomend Sageous' book enough. I thought it was crazy at first but the more I read it the more I love it.

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      I'm in a hotel room and I'm working as a recruiter. I'm trying to find a person at this company. There's a gate keeper guy with short dark hair and I'm asking him where this sales person is. He tells me he needs to ask for permission. I know I should stop him but I don't and the sales manager says no. I ask the guy what about you... is this something that may be interesting to you and he says no.

      2 dream.

      My baby is sleeping next to my wife on the other side of the bed. I know she is sleeping next to me because she is usually putting her foot in my face kind of thing.
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      wbtb and galatimine + choline mix Lucidimine...

      massive dreams.. no lucids. I love crazy dreams...

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      i'm reading a book about different kind of lucid opportunities. Different kinds of superpowers in my dreams. first thing i try to find a comic book to read. I want to start dreaming and flying. firsst i start finding my legs but they aren't underneath me, I need places to go and people to talk to.

      2. i am in a cold call/auditon/job interview for this weird part that's a cross between an amusement park and a workout facility. I'm wearing a t-shirt and headphones and i'm there to support my friends. there are stadiums and reisers. They call my name and when i get to the front it's a pair of twins, mousy looking dudes, like mort burke. I'm looking at them like, oh shit, this is a mistake. I say to thme, what's happening. I sit down and say OK. I'm the wrong guy, this is an error.

      they look at me like i'm crazy and i say, i just spent the day at your facility and it's terrifying. they have this thing you strap your body into and you shoot along this track and you need to do these crunches while you are flying around, and it's horrifying. it's crazy. there were all these kids there. I'm giving them the recruiter schpiel, I'm not the guy assigned to the search i'm helping them with the research, i don't know how my name got here. Let me go get em. they sent me to research the place but i'm not the guy

      .3 I'm at a hiking/safari facility. i don't know the people there. There's all these endangered animals. A big turtle. I'm at the top of this half finished zone. Scaffolding and cinderblocks stacked very high. At the bottom is this creek and i want to swim but it's very unstable and i don't want to fall. I'm trying to figure out how to negotiate but it's very wobbly. I'm thinking about jumping in but holding tight. a stack of blocks fall and almost hit this aquatic dinosaur of a fish. Am i gonna climb down or jump. It's a very narrow target and I don't want to do this. the scaffolding starts to tip and fall and i'm going with it and it hits the deck. I"m ok, the thing is ok I say, this is dangerous, fuck. they say, yah, we know...

      4. i'm at this excercise facility with TJ miller. He's looking washboard fit. Hey we're hanging out. He's showing me all of these crazy fitness machines/rollercoaster rides. this is where he straps into this strange machine where he's flying around and doing crunches. I ggo do one that's a surfing simulator and it's pretty fun. We are leaving but i realize i want to try the crunch coaster and we go back and there's all these kids around a change machine. I go to the ride and I don't have money. It takes my thumb print. I'm not sure how to get in. The machine takes off and I'm shooting around like superman. It's scary. I"m holding on for dear life and when i get to the bottom, i'm like hey tj I get a 5 and what did you get? 18... wow!.

      I say hey tj let me see is this your number? he says no. how about one of these, no. Can ii get your number. he says, nah.

      I'm doing some prospective memory day work. RC whenever i hear a phone ring (work with phones) or touch a door. Tomorrow, when i hear a bird or see a pretty girl.
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      A lot of nice recall there! Funny, TJ Miller, I really enjoyed his character on the Silicon Valley series.
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      Getting back on track to my day work, night work, have a new DV friend to do talking about Dreaming and LD with so that's awesome..

      Here's a couple from yesterday. I haven't transcribed my dreams from last night yet..

      sea battle, helping navigate and negotiate targets at sea. I'm not actually on a boat but i am outside.

      I'm trying to remember where I left my daughter. She's in a discount clothing bin.

      this family is being evicted from their house because of CPS and I'm the agent. They are looking for a place to stay but i don't know if i can take them. you can see through the floorboards, you can see purple grass growing beneath the house.

      I can feel the awareness and excitement building, I know a lucid is right around the corner.
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      Quote Originally Posted by fogelbise View Post
      A lot of nice recall there! Funny, TJ Miller, I really enjoyed his character on the Silicon Valley series.
      TJ is an old buddy of mine from when i was on teh chicago open mic circuit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tblanco View Post
      I can feel the awareness and excitement building, I know a lucid is right around the corner.
      Awesome! There really is a difference when one is and isn't practicing awareness.

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      TJ is an old buddy of mine from when i was on teh chicago open mic circuit.
      Very cool! Must have been some interesting times!

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      It's been too long since I've signed in. I'm journaling every day. My recall is not perfect but i do thing some of that comes with not having the best sleep. My day work has been better and I've been thinking of being grounded in reality, questioning the nature of this world and doing state checks. I tried to wild late last night after a water waking and was able to get to the heavy body stage, which was teh first in a while. I need to transcribe my verbal journals.
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      Me too. I was surprised to find that I hadn't logged in for 7 days! What do you mean by "I've been thinking of being grounded in reality"?
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      I am a delinquint but not a delinQUIT. I have all of the best excuses but i'm not about excuses. I'm about intention. I'm starting the Leberge book over today and beginning from page one. First comes recall and dreamsigns. I'm down but I ain't out.
      and Fogel.. I was referring to the Sageous RRC where he was talking about getting the feeling of being in the world and knowing what that is.
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      Never quit! It's a great idea to read LaBerge again. I'm due for a read-over now as well! Dreaming is weird -- my recall's been down quite a bit for quite a while now, but September was a pretty good month for me LD-wise (even if they were mostly short). So you just keep plugging on, doing the day and night work as best you can, and just keep rolling with the punches. I'm probably due for a big refocus on recall as well. Recall's important, so it's a good thing to center on it for a while.
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      I put myself into deep trance the other night, didn't go all the way to dreamland. Stayed in shaky vibration void for a long time.

      Dream recall is coming back. Had a few epics in the last week or so and I've been remembering things every night.

      YEsterday I was practicing awareness and saw a roof that i wanted to launch off. I caught that buzz of excitement.
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      Excellent! Epics sure are awesome. Keep up that awareness practice, particularly being aware of your awareness of things, thinking "I'm on the lookout for the dream state!"
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      Quote Originally Posted by tblanco View Post
      YEsterday I was practicing awareness and saw a roof that i wanted to launch off. I caught that buzz of excitement.
      This is one of my favorite things to do during the day and it has become a practice for me: imagining all of the fun I would have right now if I were lucid. I have specific examples of this translating to my dreams and getting me lucid and I suspect that it is responsible for some other LD's wherein the pre-DILD moments were perhaps too foggy.
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      I have been reading "lucid dreaming on command" by jamie alexander and have been practicing his technique for trance state. basically It gets you right to the SP and you can play around in there.
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      Sounds interesting, how's it going, do you find it effective? Can you give a quick summary of the approach?
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      step one, lay on the bed flat no pillow, focus on the back of your head, mind's eye/where it touches. breathe until you aren't thinking only observing..
      Step one: You're going to focus your awareness onto the back of your head so you can silence your mind, or as I like to say, "To kill your inner-voice." It's what you'd do to get into a meditative trance. Step two: You'll then send yourself to the brink of sleep by completely letting go of every last bit of tension inside your body. The focus will be on your head because if you can release all the tension from your head, your body will follow suit. Step three: And finally, you'll shift your awareness out of your body while holding onto it, which will send your body to sleep and you'll pass into a lucid dream. THE SECRET SAUCE Before we start talking about the technique itself, I want to explain how you're going to accomplish step two which is letting go of the tension inside your body. You need to imagine your head and mind are two separate things, but right now your mind is sitting inside your head, right behind your eyes.
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      Have you been able to do this?
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      I've been working on some trance meditation previous to this, so actually getting to the trance state is pretty easy. I've been doing it before bed so there's no real dream state to move into... I've tried a little bit after a wbtb but i'm not giving myself enough time to really wake up so i keep falling asleep. Getting to the trance state is pretty easy for me... holding my awareness is going to take more work. I do like this though and i can feel the Sleep paralysis come on and the body heaviness.
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      this board has fallen off. It's been way too long since I've connected. I'm still going through the meditation and reality check motions but i've had no LD since august.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tblanco View Post
      this board has fallen off. It's been way too long since I've connected. I'm still going through the meditation and reality check motions but i've had no LD since august.
      Going through the motions is likely the culprit. Try to put some meaning behind both activities (not during meditation but when getting ready to meditate or when finding yourself getting off track). With RC's, try to think of an LD where you were absolutely flabbergasted during the dream that you were actually dreaming. Remember that moment, and that any moment you could be dreaming, when you do your RC's. It can also be fun and more effective to imagine what you would do right now when the RC shows that you are lucid and visualize or play it out. I hope that helps.
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      I hit a wild last night. It was pretty awesome and very brief. I was in my own house and spent the time just looking at my hands in awe.
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      Woohoo, every WILD is a cause for celebration! Congrats! Dream hands can be mesmerizing, I know, I spent one LD doing just that.
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