Thread: Raziiel's Workbook (The Frenchy's Workbook)

Originally Posted by Raziiel

I was thinking the exact same as you before but I changed my mind

Anyway I agree with you, it doesn't matter how we call it or how we perceive it, the only important thing is to enjoy doing it

I would love to hear more about your experiences. Do you have any "AP" journal entries I could read or could share here? If you believe AP is not LDing, does that mean that things like "dream control" do not function in your APs, but work fine still in your LDs?

Do your APs happen at any time of the day, or only if you're tired/napping?

Originally Posted by FryingMan

I would love to hear more about your experiences. Do you have any "AP" journal entries I could read or could share here? If you believe AP is not LDing, does that mean that things like "dream control" do not function in your APs, but work fine still in your LDs?

Do your APs happen at any time of the day, or only if you're tired/napping?

Actually, I didn't experienced any AP yet, I'm still working on the trance state with a lot of meditation mantras and I'm also working on recall.

But in my opinion, during a AP you can use some kind of dream controls like flying going through walls and things like that but you can't really act on your environment like making all the buildings disappear.

And I think that with enough practice you can do AP whenever you want, it's like meditating, you need to go into a trance state and use exit techniques.

Hey Raziiel,

It's great to hear (read ?) from you !

I'll take a look at the book, thanks for the recommendation. I don't really know where I stand about AP, but I know that we live in a great universe we hardly understand so I'm keeping an open-minded attitude towards it. I'm also glad to see you're still on the meditation path

Originally Posted by Pornocrates

Hey Raziiel,

It's great to hear (read ?) from you !

I'll take a look at the book, thanks for the recommendation. I don't really know where I stand about AP, but I know that we live in a great universe we hardly understand so I'm keeping an open-minded attitude towards it. I'm also glad to see you're still on the meditation path

That's exactly what I thought, we don't know a lot of things about the humain brain without talking about the universe and maybe everything we've learned about our planet and the way things works are restraining us in a way.

We all know thanks to LDing that what we expect influences a lot what we experience that's why as you said we need to stay open-minded to avoid losing possibilities and I think that through meditation and AP for instance, we can get a new way of experiencing the world around us.

One of my key argument is to say that the world as we perceived it is only a combination of electric signals sent by your senses to your brain, so when you're doing a AP or a LD, you're stimulating your brain without using your senses but you're still stimulating your brain the same way we do in every day life.

That being said, I know that a lot of people are gonna think I'm crazy and maybe I am but I'm on a new path now and I'm enjoying myself

It's great to see you around Raziel (and Pornocrates too)! I leave some room in my beliefs for the possibility of AP. At the very least, the meditation and experiences you achieve will be a benefit I am sure!

Originally Posted by fogelbise

It's great to see you around Raziel (and Pornocrates too)! I leave some room in my beliefs for the possibility of AP. At the very least, the meditation and experiences you achieve will be a benefit I am sure!

Great to see you too

And of course, meditation is proven to be good for the mind and the body at the very least

Hi there !

I'm back here again reading some LD stuff, it's been a while, I completely stopped LD AP and meditation practice for several months and I don't really like that but it's because of a lack of motivation and a lot happened in my life but I'm in holiday for a week so I'll try to get back to it !

Originally Posted by Raziiel

Hi there !

I'm back here again reading some LD stuff, it's been a while, I completely stopped LD AP and meditation practice for several months and I don't really like that but it's because of a lack of motivation and a lot happened in my life but I'm in holiday for a week so I'll try to get back to it !

Hi Raziel, let me know how I can help. You might find this study of interest...check out this thread:

http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...ml#post2220607