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some stuff i have been working on this week,
Also i'm wondering if you could help point me in the right direction dream wise, I've been practising for a week or something now and my dreams are partially lucid i can chose what i want the night before and i've accomplished what i set out to do but whilst i'm in the dream i might not fully realize i'm dreaming, for example before i went too bed i wanted to have a pet perhaps a pegasus horse , i dreamt someone gave me golden retriever and i shouted and told everybody its mine, :-)
but that just needs more practise i guess.

What i'm wondering about is, i have alot of emotions i m drunk or jealous, now i started dreaming my kids are crying so i go too soothe them , I'm guessing this is inner awareness from La berge's book , but i'm looking for some tricks or excercises too sort of wake me, i don't usually run around crying but my kids crying happens alot :-) so what kind of trigger could i use? ..

i have a goal of interacting more with dc charaters asking there name, and actually i read that task of the month and i was thinking i should ask a dc too stay . also i just watched inception and was thinking about an elavator could be a good tool..
So i dreamt t. was here for a visit and i was running around frustrated and a little jealous because my sister was talking with him, and i was just cleaning, and so as he was leaving i flung myself at him and said 'i love you' haha i think i was trying to make him stay, anyway he said he had too call his mom and got in an elevator, and out steps someone else and i said oh hi mrs ? mrs? like i couldn't remember her name and everybody around said mrs percy.

I am delighted to see that you joined the DILD workbooks! Welcome Oneironautics! I am impressed with your already helpful attitude around the forums, especially dream interpretation it looks like!

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...I have 4 sisters and I shared dreaming has been quite unquestioned in our family, I have read lots of books about dream interpretations and i also have a big interest in human psychology and finding the root of a feeling.

It would be fun to hear some of your family's shared dreaming experiences! Your interest in finding the root of a feeling is something I share! It is something I didn't really become interested in until my interest in lucid dreaming and some of the practices that I have used in relation to LD'ing. I am fascinated how a certain feeling showing in a certain region of your body may point you in the right direction but it often requires digging further to get to the root of the feeling, as you mentioned. Example for anyone else reading this who is not sure what we are discussing: "I feel this way, but why, okay this happened but why did I react to that. Oh because of this. And why is that? etc…" The feelings and needs that led us to an action we may regret for instance, and forgiving ourselves by recognizing those feelings and needs.

My dream recall is quite good i have 2-4 long dreams a night if i write them down in a journal i have several dream volumes from over the years, i can remember a certain dream for a long time several years later i can remember the exact feeling and purpose of the dream, also some nights i might be writing in my dream book and i might remember loads of dreams i hadn't remembered before.
Somebody recently pointed out that i might be using a technique called Dream Incubation, I have a very easy time making a dream the night before and dreaming it although I'm not fully aware that i'm dreaming, I'm very excited about doing some more research into this, and will post a few examples after.
I guess i started doing that around when i was a teenager and was a bit lonely and i wanted a boyfriend so every night i would imagine i was together with my biggest crush and eventually i would start dreaming about him and i would wake up so happy. Also living in sweden the winter months are long and cold so every few nights i would imagine i was at a tropical beach and i would wake up in the morning feeling actually sunburned so nowadays i have quite a easy time just thinking about something during the day and focusing on it before i go too sleep.

You are starting with a nice advantage over the average person with your great dream recall on an almost nightly basis it sounds like plus the ability to remember dreams in detail years later. That's before even talking about your incubation abilities! All this will come in very handy for full blown lucid dreaming!

My Big dream goals right now are: opening a bar and shop in the ghost city of Varosha, interacting with customers making drinks, etc etc etc. short time goals are interacting with dream characters asking names and directions. also finding myself in Varosha and generally knowing im dreaming.

Fascinating, after seeing your mention, I just read up on Varosha and looked at pictures, including some before and after. I like this goal idea! It would make a good task of the month or year for Dreamviews. When using incubation or turning it more towards MILD for this goal I would include a strong emotion like "Where is everybody!!…wait this must be a dream…let me do a few different RC's!" Even though you might not get Varosha exactly, you may get some type of ghost town and then realize fully that you are dreaming…that this is all happening in your mind while you are asleep in bed (but I recommend to not think about being in bed too much though, keep your focus on the dreamworld).

and another big goal i have is a spiderman sort of swing/crawl throughout the city, short time goal is finding a wall and climbing or feeling it, looking at my hands and shooting stuff from them.

Yes! This is a lot of fun! It is easy to do if you really get into character. See the first link in my signature box for making sure you have a good mindset for performing any superpowers.

Awake i have a few excercises, Keeping a diary i find very helpful too keep my real life goals separate from dream world even though they are related, spending my night cleaning is generally not so fun , also i just feel the walls alot and ask myself am i dreaming when practising yoga i might imagine i'm floating or putting my foot through the floor.

That last bit is very useful I feel. In regards to cleaning, I just read an article that "Mindful dishwashing" can increase mental stimulation and reduce anxiety and stress - all great for lucid dreaming and life in general! If interested in reading more, do a search for the title of the research: Washing Dishes to Wash the Dishes: Brief Instruction in an Informal Mindfulness Practice.

My sleep patterns are very random I have three small kids who wake me alot of nights, but they are helping my dream recall, also my husband wakes up at about 5 am so i might get up a short while before going back to sleep.

Perfect for wake back to bed! Let us know if you need more info on WBTB…some below also.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

some stuff i have been working on this week,
Also i'm wondering if you could help point me in the right direction dream wise, I've been practising for a week or something now and my dreams are partially lucid i can chose what i want the night before and i've accomplished what i set out to do but whilst i'm in the dream i might not fully realize i'm dreaming, for example before i went too bed i wanted to have a pet perhaps a pegasus horse , i dreamt someone gave me golden retriever and i shouted and told everybody its mine, :-)
but that just needs more practise i guess.

What i'm wondering about is, i have alot of emotions i m drunk or jealous, now i started dreaming my kids are crying so i go too soothe them , I'm guessing this is inner awareness from La berge's book , but i'm looking for some tricks or excercises too sort of wake me, i don't usually run around crying but my kids crying happens alot :-) so what kind of trigger could i use? ..

I will copy over my ideas from before so anyone else chiming in knows what we discussed already: Since you seem to be already good with dream recall and reading Laberge, I think you are ready to try some MILD which is most helpful during a WBTB (wake back to bed) where you get up somewhere between 4.5 to 6 hours after going to bed (but only on days when you can sleep in…if you ever get to with kids). I prefer drinking water before bed to force me to get up during the night versus alarms which I don't like but some people use. WBTB does wonders but if you can't then just do it before bed or briefly during any times you wake in the middle of the night naturally. To keep the MILD simple I would say just start with visualizing one of these common dream scenarios or especially one you just had before waking or the night before or recently and imagine fully realizing that you are dreaming in that dream that you are re-visualizing. You can also mix in what you want to do next after fully realizing that you are dreaming and it may be good to take a moment in the visualization and in the lucid dream you may have soon to remind yourself that you are dreaming and you can do whatever you want without worrying about becoming embarrassed or anything. Does that make sense? Instead of replying here, why don't you go ahead and continue in the workbook, unless you prefer to continue here. Happy dreams!!

i have a goal of interacting more with dc charaters asking there name, and actually i read that task of the month and i was thinking i should ask a dc too stay . also i just watched inception and was thinking about an elavator could be a good tool..
So i dreamt t. was here for a visit and i was running around frustrated and a little jealous because my sister was talking with him, and i was just cleaning, and so as he was leaving i flung myself at him and said 'i love you' haha i think i was trying to make him stay, anyway he said he had too call his mom and got in an elevator, and out steps someone else and i said oh hi mrs ? mrs? like i couldn't remember her name and everybody around said mrs percy.

Nice, it sounds like you incubated those scenarios. Some people get these types of dreams non-lucid when attempting task of the month but I think you will be able to make them lucid with a little MILD visualization practice (mentioned above) during a WBTB (whether planned or not).

I look forward to hearing your adventures!

might as well refresh my goals before i go too sleep
goal too find varosha and be there conciously,
So last night i dreamt i went to the airport and came out in Paphos (right island wrong side) and i was confused why is it so far away, so i was looking for my parked car but couldn't find it somebody said they had a rental so we were driving but i got confused so the car disappeared and i started walking in the middle of the highway super determined, after awhile i gave up and was back in a car and somebody else was driving ,
So after waking i decided i will try to drive to varosha tonight from paphos because last night i forgot the destination .

So i dream alot about my kids and they sort of get in the way of me becoming awake, so i decided i should find a babysitter
last night i dreamt my mom came too babysit but i asked her where will she take the kids and she didn't know, so she asked my dad and he seemed drunk and was talking about gambling so i didn't feel he knew was suitable.
I guess im not fully ready to let my subconciousness take the controls so to speak and also im having a difficult deciding so tonight i will leave kids again with my mom, and go shopping for furniture for my bar in varosha.

HI FB, Thanks for all the great feedback ! Dreamviews team is doing such a great job of helping people, a psychiatrist might taking hundreds of dollors for all these hours you guys spend pyscho analyzing dreams. Tusen Tack

Yes, Varosha is a super facinating place, I was going too suggest a challenge for October 'Dreamers Halloween Party at Varosha ghost town, bring a scary costume and see who else is there', otherwise i might have too post it somewhere anyway , hopefully by then my bar will be up and running :-) .

Actually i enjoy cleaning and doing dishes, when i was a kid i used too 'help' my mom and would play with the bubbles and warm water for hours , and i still enjoy cleaning it helps me relax like you said, I guess just these days i'm doing so much i clean one room and the kids will mess it up in 5 min haha, but your right i should be more aware and conscious of what i am doing all the time, which is quite easy listening too the kids we can just go out the door and they will find something interesting and sit down in the middle of the street and examine it .

When me and my sisters were kids and all living together, we would wake up in the morning and sit in the same bed and talk about what we dreamed about, but alot of the dreams are more about feelings, for example when i think about my sister shes not really a person but more of an colour or just she makes me feel a certain way.... I really have only one good example the rest is just a blur from childhood, this was one of the last times we were living together about teenagers something,,, IRL Me and one sister didn't really get along we were always fighting and competing, so for a few weeks we had been really fighting and annoyed with each other, so i guess we went too bed angry and I dreamt we were in a huge maze and i had a big sword and i wanted to find my sister, i can't really remember everything but i think the dream was a bit scary and i realized she wasn't the enemy and we ended up fighting together instead of each other, something like that. In the morning we were sitting together and not angry or fighting anymore, and she said she had dreamt about me as well. :-)

Have a nice weekend !

Dream update, unfortunately i didn't remember most of the nights dreams only one in the morning, only in the morning when i was lying in bed i was thinking remember remember, and i had a short dream b4 i got up.
I was trying too fill out some forms for somebody, and i didn't have a pen just kids markers the colours were blue and yellow, i was trying to write but it kept becoming a big blob of color instead.

Dream analysis i think my mind is saying too things, first yellow and blue is the color of limasols football team , Yippee i made it too limasol (first stop from Paphos to Varosha) :-) second my mind is become a little mushy and needs a weekend break.

So Weekend dream goals , have a holiday in Limasol YAY, go swimming, or surfing if i am feeling ambitious, rent a bike to explore the city with, find a palm tree, and speak with some friends see what language they are speaking :-) . I will update after the weekend .

B4 i went too bed last night, i was wondering perhaps if i keep dreaming that the kids are sad because the city of V. is sad . I wonder how other people feel, if they would want to visit a happy place would they feel happy?? Also in another dream i had my dad was talking about Casino, there are so many casinos in famagusta area that maybe i was really thinking about that?
So dream last night i took the kids with me to the supermarket looking for noodles couldn't find any, Somebody hugged me and said my name super clearly, (goal) i went out, and had a FA i was in bed with my sister, ( the one who says she doesn't remember any dreams) she woke up and said I dreamt you were sleeping with my Italian boyfriend and now i don't know what too do and then she was crying,,,,, also I looked in the mirror (goal) I felt like i knew this was a FA i realized i don't really sleep with my sister but i wanted too hear what she was saying. I feel i am getting really aware of my self :-)
Interpretation perhaps if i want to go to V. I have too be conciously sad,,, Luckily i have to super great kids films about being sad, -- Inside out-- and -- A little prince-- Great pyschology films. also i will be thinking about my grandmother and try to be conciously sad today.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

HI FB, Thanks for all the great feedback ! Dreamviews team is doing such a great job of helping people, a psychiatrist might taking hundreds of dollors for all these hours you guys spend pyscho analyzing dreams. Tusen Tack

You're welcome! We volunteer here out of our love for lucid dreaming and dreams in general! It really has enriched my life!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

I feel i am getting really aware of my self :-)

Interpretation perhaps if i want to go to V. I have too be conciously sad,,, Luckily i have to super great kids films about being sad, -- Inside out-- and -- A little prince-- Great pyschology films. also i will be thinking about my grandmother and try to be conciously sad today.

That is great that you are noticing your self-awareness increasing! You will have a full-blown lucid dream soon I'm sure!

I am not so sure about aiming to be consciously sad, but let me know how it goes. Perhaps you can meet up with your grandmother in Varosha!

Happy dreams and hope you are having a great weekend also!

actually i found it too be a super helpful excercise today, whenever the kids cried i tried to be sad with them instead of just sushing them i think they thought it was funny, but i listened alot more to them. Its good to remember too be sad every once in awhile, life especially these days with all the craziness has so much sadness in it especially around the middle east with thousands of people dying everyday, Sweden last year had 163000 refugee applicants. Reading about these things and not stopping to think about them is not healthy, constantly focusing on being happy is not being aware of all my emotions.
I did like the idea of meeting my grandmother, I will definetly put that in my to do list, I really loved her, she nearly made it too 100 . In the general plot of my dream I think i have too go north first and cross the border. But I think I will be ambitious tonight, and try TTOTY and burn down V with a dragon :-)

I have decided to revise my goals I would like too open a library and soup kitchen in V.
Also the 1 of september would be a perfect night for my first Lucid Dream because of the solar eclipse i really wish i could have it in Africa looking at the stars, so that leaves me 3 nights too find ercan airport, so i can easily find it again ... Wish me Luck :-)

Last night my kids woke me about 5 zillion times, just as i was about to start dreaming, i kept a little spark of the dream going and everytime i tried to sleep again i would try and rekindle it. Somehow i realised what i was thinking about, basically instead of trying to remember some long 1 hour 'movie' i should try and remember the feelings or message about the dream and write the down instead,, so when i listened i heard the word Accept. i guess i have too accept my state of being when i am asleep :-) I will add a goal list- listen to a symphony being blind.

So when i finally was able to sleep i remember thinking about the crickets chirping and i could hear them so clearly. had a long dream hear are the highlights
first i was trying to write in puzzle book, i think i was trying to reality check. but someone came and grabbed the book and said we should play cards instead..... ok
I was riding my bike close to the sea but in the city and someone was showing me the way to the beach i came to a dead end but he was showing me another way, ( my goal has been too find a dream guide ) and then i woke up..

Hi oneironatics! Looks like you're doing well and fogelbise is giving great advice as usual!

Here's another great R word; Reflect!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

actually i found it too be a super helpful excercise today, whenever the kids cried i tried to be sad with them instead of just sushing them i think they thought it was funny, but i listened alot more to them.

I see what you mean. Nice!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Wish me Luck :-)

Good luck! Even in a non-lucid dream that should be a nice experience, but based on the experiences you are having, I do think you will have a lucid dream soon! :-)

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Last night my kids woke me about 5 zillion times, just as i was about to start dreaming, i kept a little spark of the dream going and everytime i tried to sleep again i would try and rekindle it.
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first i was trying to write in puzzle book, i think i was trying to reality check. but someone came and grabbed the book and said we should play cards instead..... ok
I was riding my bike close to the sea but in the city and someone was showing me the way to the beach i came to a dead end but he was showing me another way, ( my goal has been too find a dream guide ) and then i woke up..

That first part above can be paired with visualizing becoming lucid in that dream that you are trying to rekindle…adding "Wait a minute, this is all a dream!" for example.

Then you had a moment where you think you were trying to do an RC. Plus possibly getting some dreamguide-like help from that person showing you another way…both good signs.

THanks FM, great word i will start using it, i am thinking of tossing in some more a words Accept, Aware, Access., Just writing in this forum is really helping me 1st im writing in english and my home books are in swedish or at least swinglish which is helping me reflect a second time. but also here i feel more 'pressured' into succeding in a good way. But of course i love all feedback and tips if somebody finds it an interesting read
Thanks FB I do feel really close, I do keep having signs i want to RC but i keep brushing them of or getting distracted, i guess just keep at it . And I did already have the african night dream unlucid it was a very nice dream :-) but i am sure it will be better lucid so i will try and focus more. And i will try being more visual before i doze off :

Last night I slept really well untill morning, morning dream was mostly about daytime stuff but one part was interesting
I was looking for my seat for a show and i didn't know where too sit even though there were lots of empty spaces, (I think it was because i didn't want to be sitting watching but up and doing instead.) I asked somebody working there and she said look on the wall there and push the button and it will tell you how many seats are left (goal is to find a wall and feel it) so i looked and it looked sort of like a whitish pole but there was some fancy computer gadget i was trying to workout. so i got distracted next time i will not be distracted hehe.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Thanks FB I do feel really close, I do keep having signs i want to RC but i keep brushing them of or getting distracted, i guess just keep at it . And I did already have the african night dream unlucid it was a very nice dream :-) but i am sure it will be better lucid so i will try and focus more. And i will try being more visual before i doze off :

Exactly, just keep at it and it will happen! The visualizations will help. Other day practices like doing RC's and the RRC are also helpful.

hmm, not sure what an rrc is?

Last night i dreamt i was going to sleep and dreamt i had a LD :-) it was night and I was running away from someone and i started to fly instead and i was flapping my arms like a bird saying i can fly i can fly ,, felt quite gravity less haha

Originally Posted by oneironautics

hmm, not sure what an rrc is?

Last night i dreamt i was going to sleep and dreamt i had a LD :-) it was night and I was running away from someone and i started to fly instead and i was flapping my arms like a bird saying i can fly i can fly ,, felt quite gravity less haha

RRC info: http://www.dreamviews.com/wild/13181...prep-part.html It is in the WILD section, but RRC is useful for all types of lucid dreaming.

That dream sounded fun! Are you saying that you had a dream about lucid dreaming or did you feel yourself present in the dream and realized while you were dreaming that it was a dream? Either way, that is a very good sign that you are close to having a lucid dream (or more lucid dreams depending on what last night's dream was), so congratulations!

Thanks fb,
Have just been reading random articles perhaps should start with book 1? and what might that be ?

Wow perhaps it was a LD or at least partially aware, it was just so dark at night,,

The dream was i was talking too a friend but only via telepathy so i said we should go to sleep and lucid dream. So we were running away from something and i realised i didn't have to be running when i could be flying :-) so i was flying and then flapping my arms floating about like a balloon, and then we woke up from the second dream and i was telling my friend i was flying and i had flown to a new bed .

Another weird thing happened when i woke up one time i was trying to go back to sleep but keep my mind awake and i just sort of imagining i was standing around waiting, and all of a sudden there where huge trucks coming from far away , hallucination??


Last night in my dreams i feel i keep drifting back and forth between imaginary and what is real, first i was with my kids on a train and the train was late, then i realized i didn't have to be there so i was suddenly in puerto rico and was going to learn ukele, but then i suddenly was pregnant, and was thinking omg why am i not at home , and i looked at my stomach and i wasn't pregnant... back and forth and back and forth ....

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Thanks fb,
Have just been reading random articles perhaps should start with book 1? and what might that be ?

Book 1 ? Are you referring to something in the WILD section or the RRC article?

Wow perhaps it was a LD or at least partially aware, it was just so dark at night,,

The dream was i was talking too a friend but only via telepathy so i said we should go to sleep and lucid dream. So we were running away from something and i realised i didn't have to be running when i could be flying :-) so i was flying and then flapping my arms floating about like a balloon, and then we woke up from the second dream and i was telling my friend i was flying and i had flown to a new bed .

It's hard for me to say, but it could have been a lucid dream followed by a false awakening where you thought you woke up but were still dreaming and telling your friend about the flying dream or lucid dream. The good news is that when you have a really high level lucid dream you will know it beyond the shadow of a doubt but this could have been a lucid dream with a low to mid-level amount of awareness of what exactly was happening. Either way, a great sign as I mentioned before!

Another weird thing happened when i woke up one time i was trying to go back to sleep but keep my mind awake and i just sort of imagining i was standing around waiting, and all of a sudden there where huge trucks coming from far away , hallucination??

Very nice work! Another one that is hard to say. It could have been what we call hypnagogic hallucinations but it also could have been the beginning of a dream. If you were aware that it wasn't actually happening and was all in your mind, plus maintained awareness ("mind awake") through the whole process, and it was the beginning of a dream, you could have started a WILD and just had it fall apart (I say fall apart, assuming the scenario didn't continue and evolve along with awareness). Either way, I think it is great to also experience HH's (hypnagogic hallucinations)…the average person outside of lucid dreamers never witness HH's or at least don't remember witnessing it by the next morning.

Last night in my dreams i feel i keep drifting back and forth between imaginary and what is real, first i was with my kids on a train and the train was late, then i realized i didn't have to be there so i was suddenly in puerto rico and was going to learn ukele, but then i suddenly was pregnant, and was thinking omg why am i not at home , and i looked at my stomach and i wasn't pregnant... back and forth and back and forth ….

I have those nights too. That is a very good sign that your awareness is rising since we often don't pay too much attention to the odd shifts that happen in the dreamworld.

I am impressed with your progress! Great work!

Hej,

Decided to start by reading Saisons Dream Yoga because it makes most sense too me.

I guess i have alot of practice listening too the kids all night and at the same time turning of some parts of the mind and falling asleep :-)

Anyway my dreams have been so random and odd ,, for example a big pile of raw meat, raw = ra ,, so last night i asked my dream what i should be doing before i fall asleep , and i dreamt i was getting back on a horse. SO no more time for vacation, this morning i realized exactly what i need to meet and focus on in my dream, I will stay focused all month although i have no idea what or who it might look like, but i'm so excited about falling asleep :-)

Originally Posted by oneironautics

...but i'm so excited about falling asleep :-)

Love it! I know the feeling!!

I've had so many dreams where at the end of the dream i start getting worried 'i will be late for work' i haven't been to work for several years so im guessing it has to do with i'm about to wake up?
dream 1 dreamt i was at my old job and my boss gave me a card (the card used to belong to an old colleague) and a code too access an elevator that will take me back and forth so i can be at work anytime :-) hope i can remember that next time.
dream 2 dreamt i was in C .island, ready to move to new house , and i was getting that feeling like i needed to go home , and then i remembered i didn't need to had a job in C. already YAY i'm learning :-)

will do more ada excercises

ARE YOU DREAMING?

so this term is feeling quite useless to me, because i daydream, and also my subconciousness is not understanding why we should be lucid dreaming. So for the last few days i have been trying to find words define my intent properly, and it hasn't been going in the right direction. I want to fly i spent a nr of dreams flying, I want to meet someone yes i met this person, I tried bringing up a small real psychological problem and told myself i want to be lucid so i can deal with this issue, dream 8 years old possibly a clue to the issue, but completely irrelevant to being lucid.
Also decided i want to try to do some more violent stuff which might jog my memory, when i woke in the middle of the night i was focusing on a dream where i would run and tell a friend i was dreaming
So last night i dreamt i was going to get the train and some guys had a big stick and wanted to hit me with it? SO i took the stick with my teeth and hit him in the leg . well possibly hitting myself in the leg has proved to be useful
Today I realized what my intent should be my new line along with my reality checks will be

ARE YOU USING YOUR SPIRIT BODY ??

Interesting! Let us know how your new line goes. Lucid dreaming practice often involves our own little personal adjustments to the fundamentals that make sense to us and fit us.

Happy dreams!