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      Not much time today to write down report. I'll try to edit with the full report tonight or tomorrow.

      I had 1 long, vivid NLD and 2 FA's about writing down a a dream (which I now can't recall) in my dream journal. Nothing too special to report besides that.

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      Well I've been slacking off lately. Both in journaling as well as in practice. My daily life has been crazy, so I've been altering my practice to be sustainable during this period.

      Lately, that's meant focusing on techniques that can be worked on mostly at night without much day work. Last night it paid off, as I had my longest and most vivid lucid dream to date. It was a CAN-WILD. I've been setting a series of auto snooze alarms every morning and I try CAN-WILD at each of them. If that doesn't work, then I try a variation on MILD that I read on this forum.

      I woke up to my 7:25 auto-snooze alarm. I laid still and immediately heard auditory hallucinations. I felt my body rotating and floating up and down. After a short while, I felt a floating sensation and knew I was dreaming. I did a nose-plug RC and got out of bed. I walked through the bedroom and hallway trying to find T so we could have sex. She wasn't in the house. I then walked up to the front door and decided to try to phase through it. I half-ran towards it and threw myself through the door. It worked! I got outside and the scenery looked different than real life. I decided to try to fly. The first time, I jumped off the ground and stayed up for a while but came back to the ground relatively soon. I imagine it was like jumping on the moon in low gravity. The second time I stayed up a bit longer. The 3rd time I started flying but after a few seconds I got kinda scared and started thinking about what would happen if I fell. So I chose a place to land and willed myself down. I landed in a somewhat busy location. It was a pier/bridge by the ocean. I did several more nose-plug RCs to confirm I was dreaming, then walked up to a girl and started having sex with her. I stopped after a bit and walked into this covered mall. I looked at my right hand and it looked completely normal. I thought about how I had just done a CAN-WILD. I distinctly remembered my alarm going off and the conscious process of entering this lucid dream. I saw another girl at a booth and started having sex with her. Then a guy came over and said I couldn't do that here. I walked back outside. I couldn't remember any of the March TOTM, so I decided to ask someone for a waking TOTM (which I think was for February). Right as the guy started to answer, I woke up. I checked my phone. It had been 6 minutes and 30 seconds since my alarm went off. I estimate the dream entry took about 30 seconds, so this lucid dream was about 6 minutes, which feels accurate to my dream time.

      It felt so amazing to have such a long lucid dream. I did notice that I was running a lot because I felt pressured for time. Nevertheless, I'm very satisfied. I'm going to continue to practice like this until my schedule clears up some.
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      CAN-WILD or Alarm DEILD is a great technique if you can get back to sleep in seconds after an alarm.
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      Definitely. It doesn't always work, but when it does it's quick and easy. And when it doesn't, it gives you a chance to renew your intentions. I'm sure your halovision setup will be good for CAN-WILD!

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      Congratulations on a nice, lengthy LD Broth! Yes, you've got your can-wild alarm set up nicely for you. For anyone else reading this, the trick to making it easier to notice the alarm and drift back to sleep can have to do with things like auto-dismiss or auto-snooze, as well as the sound-type of the alarm and volume (nothing too jarring or alarming - haha). I know options like that are available through the free android app Alarm Clock Xtreme and must be available on a similar iPhone app.

      Did you have any tips for the alarm that you've found Broth? Also which MILD variation are you using?

      Congrats again! Glad to hear that you are able to maintain some practices through the crazy times!
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      Thanks Fogelbise. I had another lucid dream last night, also a CAN-WILD. T was in the bedroom when I entered the dream so it was a sex dream. Needless to say I won't be journaling that one here. Sorry guys. But I can say that I was able to maintain lucidity throughout the entire experience which was good. Hopefully I don't waste the next lucid completely on sex.

      As you mentioned, I do use Alarm Clock Xtreme for Android. It had the best configuration of alarms that I have found so far in a free app. You can select the ringtone (or use vibration). You can do an increasing alarm volume, where it starts off very soft and progressively gets louder. You can set the amount of time it goes off for before snoozing or dismissing. And most importantly, as you said, it has an auto-snooze and auto-dismiss feature which is necessary for CAN-WILD. I personally am a fairly heavy sleeper. I have a ringtone set to go off for 5 seconds, with vibration, progressively getting louder, and it auto-snoozes after the 5 seconds. I have the snooze set for 25 minutes. I start that about 1.5 hours before I wake up for the day which means it goes off about 4 times before my final alarm for the day.

      Some people might be worried about losing sleep, but I don't think it's a huge deal. If the CAN-WILD works, I'm asleep within 30 seconds of the alarm. If it doesn't, I do a short MILD and I'm asleep within 1-2 minutes. So I might lose 5-10 minutes of sleep at the most. We all wake up many times during the night so I don't think it's a big deal. It's also after sleeping soundly for 6 hours.

      As for the MILD method, it was something I found in the induction methods section of the forum. I'll try to find the link. Basically, you wake up several times in the morning (the book suggests an alarm). Each time, you perform a nose-plug RC and become aware of your surroundings. You then visualize yourself performing a nose-plug RC and you tell yourself you will perform one soon. Repeat this several times throughout the morning and it should lead to a FA or a DILD. I liked this because it seems like a more concentrated form of MILD. It gives your one thing, a nose-plug RC, to focus on repeatedly. I've found that when I do this, it often leads to doing that action in a dream. In fact, there is a LD report earlier in this thread where I became lucid from doing something very similar. And that was before I ever read that thread!

      Asleep: 12:45
      WBTB: 6:30, 6:55, 7:20, 7:45
      Awake: 8:00
      Lucids: 1

      1. Sex lucid. Not journaling. I stayed asleep through everything though so that's a success.
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      Congratulations on the enjoyable LD! I still pursue those kinds of dreams and see nothing wrong with it…though maybe I pursue them a little less than before. You can have so many different experiences that I can't give them up entirely!

      When using auto-snooze after 5 seconds of alarm ringing, do you turn off the gradually increasing volume feature and just go full alarm for those 5 seconds? I find that 5 seconds isn't long enough for it to get loud enough to notice - if the gradual increase of volume feature is activated.

      I can see how that MILD method could induce FA's and help catch FA's and other dreams. Thanks for sharing.

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      I do use the gradually increasing volume, reaching full volume at the 5 second mark (which is the shortest period of volume crescendo offered by this app). I use a relatively "jarring" ringtone right now, which is a series of short beeping sounds.

      It doesn't always wake me up. And sometimes, it wakes me up and I'm too alert and not in a state from which I can enter an LD. Or perhaps I'm just not in REM sleep. But often, it wakes me up just enough where I remain still and in a dreamy state of consciousness that is perfect for entering an LD. I think it's just a matter of fooling around with the settings until you find something that works for you. I was lucky in that I naturally tended to stay still when waking up from this alarm, but I do sometimes move before I realize what I'm doing. Like anything, it just requires practice.

      The nice thing about this alarm is the variety of sounds and lengths it lets you choose from. You could always set a 10 second auto-snooze, with 5 seconds to peak volume, which would almost definitely wake you up. However, with a 5 second auto-snooze, I find that by the time I'm somewhat awake and conscious, the alarm is already almost finished so I can let myself go back to sleep.

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      I actually missed the "5 seconds to peak volume" option - didn't scroll down far enough and mine was at what must be the default of 60 seconds. Thank you for pointing that out. Most of my LDs come from SSILD or MILD after WBTB and usually 1-2 hours before waking, but I have experimented with this DEILD alarm method off and on and I plan to set one alarm on auto-dismiss daily for a 2nd chance for an LD closer to my waking time.

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      I think that's a great idea. Definitely can't hurt.

      I looked at that 60 seconds to peak volume. It just takes so long to get to a noticeable level that I don't think there's any reason for it. Unless you're the type of person who gets very jarred and alert from an alarm and you need to be woken up as gradually as possible. But I think in terms of training to have lucid dreams, learning to not move after an auto-snooze alarm is one of the easier skills to pick up!
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      Hi guys,

      It's been 2.5 years since I've logged in or posted. I recently decided to renew my LD practice. My living and work situation has changed significantly so I've had to rethink my approach.

      1. I work full-time 9ish - 5ish meaning I cannot tolerate much sleep loss and I have less time for day practice.
      2. I sleep next to possibly the world's lightest sleeper so any alarm is out of the question (even probably vibrating alarms)

      I'm actually happy about the 2nd point because I was relying on an auto-dismiss alarm for CAN-WILD as you can see by reading my previous work book entries. While this worked, I'd prefer a method that does not rely on external tools and which works no matter when/where I go to sleep. I've decided to focus on DEILD (with MILD as a backup) since it doesn't require an alarm and there is minimal loss of sleep. It doesn't rely as much on great dream recall or keeping a consistent dream journal (I haven't had much issue remembering lucid dreams). I'm also familiar with DEILD style dream entry from CAN-WILD.

      My goal for now is to use intention/visualization/auto-suggestion to recognize when I wake up during/after a dream and to stay relatively still with eyes closed. I'd like to recognize several of these so called micro-awakenings each night. Obviously I'll try for a DEILD (or a MILD if necessary) but for now I'm just focused on recognizing when I wake up and staying still. I'll update daily with my progress.

      Happy dreams!
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      Asleep: 12:00ish
      Micro-WBTB: 1 (natural, unknown time)
      Awake: 7:40
      NLD: 1
      Lucid: 0

      1. Vivid dream with good recall but of a personal nature so I won't be sharing details.

      Throughout the day yesterday I did RCs/SAT and auto-suggestion to recognize when I wake up during the night and to stay still. Last night before bed, I re-affirmed that intention with visualization. I recognized waking up once during the night and I quickly remembered to stay still. I didn't notice the end of the proceeding dream, but I think I recognized that I woke up fairly quickly. I'm not sure why but I didn't attempt DEILD or MILD before quickly falling back asleep. Overall, I'm satisfied since I noticed an awakening. But I'll keep focusing on this intention until I'm recognizing several each night and staying still.

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      Asleep: 12:15ish
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (natural, unknown times)
      Awake: 7:35
      NLD: 2
      FA: 1
      Lucid: 0

      1. I had a dream which I've since forgotten. I 'woke up' in my bed and grabbed my dream journal and wrote down that it was a reoccurring dream. I also wrote down the word Quebec. I realized on my subsequent natural wakening that this was an FA.

      2. I woke naturally and attempted DEILD, however I had either woken up too much or it was not the right time. So I recorded my previous dream in my journal. I'm in my parents apartment speaking with them. One of my co-workers, who I've never seen outside of work, was sitting at a counter drinking a glass of juice. I told my mother that they shouldn't buy a $2,200 TV as they didn't need it and that's way too expensive. I said they could find even a nice Samsung at $800 in the size they want. My parents looked at my co-workers and asked if this was true. He confirmed. I also remember my mother mentioning that something in my dad's car had broken, further stretching their budget.

      3. I'm in a McDonalds playground with my girlfriend. We are wearing climbing harnesses and are hooked into climbing ropes. However the ropes are low to the ground and horizontal. She is able to slide across the playground somehow, but I'm repeatedly getting stuck to the ground. One of the guides walks over and tries to help me out.

      Last night was a good night in terms of natural awakenings and recall. I had an 'FA' and recognized two natural micro-awakenings. I also attempted DEILD and then MILD on one of the awakenings.

      During the day yesterday, I began doing Hufik's Gravity RC. I'm finding that I can keep a level of awareness on my body weight without interfering with daily life. Right now it takes effort and attention, but I'm sure over time it will become second nature. This seems more natural to me than something like ADA, which I found interfered more significantly with my ability to carry out daily tasks.
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      Asleep: 12:30ish
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (natural, unknown times)
      Awake: 7:35
      Fragment: 1
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      1. Fragment of being on DreamViews and seeing a user who I've been wanting to talk to online.

      I recognized two natural awakenings last night. After one I tried for DEILD but I believe I woke up quite a bit before I recognized the waking. I fell asleep before attempting MILD. I know on those two awakenings that I remembered previous dreams but I forgot them by the morning. I can't turn on a light to record my dreams because I'll wake my girlfriend (same for audio recording). It's a little frustrating but on the other hand I know I remembered those dreams on waking so I'm confident I would remember a lucid dream as well.

      I continued with the Gravity RC yesterday. I'm working on finding my unique way of performing that RC throughout the day without impacting daily life. Right now I seem to focus on the feeling of body weight in my arms/hands primarily, except when walking where I focus often on the feeling of weight in my legs/feet. Tonight, I will begin writing down a journal of my day before bed. It seems like a good exercise for improving day and night recall.
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      7/21/19

      Asleep: 12:45ish
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (natural, unknown times)
      Awake: 10:45
      NLD: 2 or 3, not sure if one was a continuation or a separate dream
      Lucid: 0

      1. I was riding in a car on the highway. I noticed a silver car driving recklessly, weaving in and out of lanes and driving fast. It passed a car on the left and immediately swerved back into that lane on the right. Seconds later there was a big crash and I assumed that the another car had tried to change lanes at the same time and they collided. I stopped and spoke with the police regarding the crash. They advised that it was not necessarily the fault of the driver of the silver car.

      2. I'm not sure if this is a continuation of the previous dream or a separate dream. I recalled these dreams upon final wakening in the morning. I am being questioned by the police. I'm chased and I run. I'm pursued into a building. I run through it trying to lose the police. Eventually, I come to a cafeteria where it seems that they feed homeless people. I eat with them and try to blend in. Eventually I am surrounded by police. But it turns out that this whole operation was a sting against one bad cop.

      3. I'm at a grocery store with someone and with my girlfriend. I'm feeding corn on the cob directly to my girlfriend and I have deja-vu about this event (though we've never done that in real life lol). There is a memory gap. Then I'm watching a flood at a house and at a beach. The water is slowly receding back into the ocean. We aren't allowed to use the beach until all the water recedes.


      I was happy with today because on when I woke up for the final time, while I had the sensation of having recalled a few dreams earlier, I could not remember any specifics. I continued to lay in bed and let my mind wander, and I eventually recalled these 2 or 3 dreams. I also noticed 2 natural awakenings and tried for a DEILD on one occasion. I continued with Hufik's Gravity RC. I am focusing mostly on my hands/arms, and on my legs when I walk.

      I recognized two natural awakenings last night. After one I tried for DEILD but I believe I woke up quite a bit before I recognized the waking. I fell asleep before attempting MILD. I know on those two awakenings that I remembered previous dreams but I forgot them by the morning. I can't turn on a light to record my dreams because I'll wake my girlfriend (same for audio recording). It's a little frustrating but on the other hand I know I remembered those dreams on waking so I'm confident I would remember a lucid dream as well.

      I continued with the Gravity RC yesterday. I'm working on finding my unique way of performing that RC throughout the day without impacting daily life. Right now I seem to focus on the feeling of body weight in my arms/hands primarily, except when walking where I focus often on the feeling of weight in my legs/feet. Tonight, I will begin writing down a journal of my day before bed. It seems like a good exercise for improving day and night recall.

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      Asleep: 1:30ish
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (natural, unknown times)
      Awake: 10:00
      Fragment: 1
      Lucid: 0

      1. Fragment of running for president.

      I recognized two natural awakenings. On one, I tried a MILD and focused a lot on the sensation of gravity before going back to sleep. I continued with Hufik's Gravity RC, focusing a lot on hands/arms and legs when walking.

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      Asleep: 12:15
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (5:00, 6:15 by alarms)
      Awake: 7:40
      NLD: 3
      Fragment: 2
      Lucid: 0

      1. This one is kind of a fragment. It's the earliest dream I remember in the night. I'm not able to write down my dreams during the night, so by the time I woke up for the day my memory had faded quite a bit. I'm in bed with my girlfriend and another girl. We all start kissing. I remember thinking during the night after waking up that I was semi-lucid during this dream. The reason is that during the dream I wasn't worried about kissing this other girl because I knew it wasn't real.

      2. I'm in a tall apartment building near the top floor. I see a cute dog on the roof of the adjacent building. I'm assuming his/her owner took them up there for a walk? My girlfriend and I wave to the dog and make funny faces. Suddenly the dog walks to the edge of the roof and tries to jump to our balcony!! It reaches the edge of the balcony but then slips and falls...we then see a girl, his/her owner, walking up with three other white dogs. She falls to the ground crying.

      3. My girlfriend and I are in the same tall apartment building. This dream is highly fragmented but I remember we walked outside, and I noticed we were now walking on grass, meaning we somehow are now on the ground floor. I tell my girlfriend that it is weird that we are somehow now on the ground floor. I think that shows some element of awareness.

      4. I'm in my parent's apartment with my mom. There is an Amazon speaker on the kitchen counter and my mom wants to show me how it works. She says a command, and suddenly the speaker starts to emit smoke. It then starts to catch on fire. It emits water in an attempt to put the fire out, almost like there was a built-in fire suppression system? It doesn't work and the flames continue to grow. I start to panic. Some items on the kitchen counter catch on fire, then the stove top! My mom doesn't seem concerned - she is just sitting there blankly. I remember thinking that her reaction was really strange and abnormal. I scream at her to get the fire extinguisher and tell her I might need to pull the fire alarm. Finally she gets up with some urgency to find the fire extinguisher. I'm woken by an alarm.

      5. Fragmented memory. I'm in an office or apartment building on one of the upper floors. I see two of my coworkers, N and K. N tells me I forgot something on the bottom floor.

      Good recall and relatively high awareness last night. I decided to set two alarms to ensure that I practiced MILD (recently with natural awakenings I haven't always performe MILD before going back to sleep). Unfortunately, I faced some insomnia this morning after the alarms. I think this vibrating wrist alarm might wake me to much to fall back asleep quickly, unlike my previous 5 second auto-dismiss alarm. My girlfriend is also an incredibly light sleeper and was tossing and turning all morning after the alarm went off. I think it might be more effective to continue focusing on increasing awareness of natural awakenings and using them effectively.

      Yesterday, I tried something a little different in terms of day practice. Instead of focusing exclusively on the Gravity RC, I focused on general mindfulness with an emphasis on bodily feeling. Meaning I tried to remain in a state of mindful awareness throughout the day, and made sure to critically reflect on bodily feeling (including body weight). I'm not sure how my practice will progress, but I want to maintain a relatively constant state of awareness of something that differentiates the dream state from the waking state. I'm not sure if general mindfulness will do this, since many meditators focus on mindfulness without becoming frequent lucid dreamers. FryingMan says elsewhere on the sit that it takes mindfulness plus critical reflection in order to recognize the dream state. I would agree because mindfulness as I understand it is noting one's thoughts, sensations, experiences, etc without judgement. I'm not sure this would lead on its own to a recognition of a dream state. Mindfulness + critical reflection on body weight could work, since body weight is generally different between waking and dreaming. Other options could be general awareness plus critical reflection on how you got to a particular location, on what is occurring at the moment, and on how you subjectively feel. But for now I will stick with body weight since I think that could be a quick way to critically reflect and determine state.
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      Hi Broth, it's great to see that you are back at it and that you're keeping good notes! Are you thinking about doing any WBTBs (via natural awakenings) on your days off? I guess it would only work if your partner got up earlier or you were able to get up quietly/slowly enough to not wake your partner.

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      Hey fogelbise! Thanks for responding, it's great to hear from you again as well. How has your practice been going? I'm on a business trip at the moment so I have a hotel room to myself. But I'm planning on doing micro-wbtb via natural awakenings when I'm back home, but not getting out of bed. I just want to become aware of the natural awakenings, then go right into a MILD/SSILD induction. Hopefully once the Gravity RC starts working I won't have to worry about waking my girlfriend up anymore!

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      Asleep: 12:30
      Micro-WBTB: 2 (5:00, 6:15 by alarms)
      Awake: 8:30
      NLD: 1
      Lucid: 1

      1. The alarm wakes me and I go to the restroom. I lay down and perform MILD, then SSILD. My awareness drifts and suddenly I become aware and feel a weird rushing sensation. I know I'm close to entering a dream, but I become too excited and it stops. I lay still and focus on the sensation of breathing, while imagining myself plugging my nose. Quickly I feel the rushing sensation again and soon I know I'm dreaming. I'm in the hotel room. I sit up and remember to check the sensation of gravity (since I've been doing the Gravity RC and I was wondering how it would feel in a dream). I've been maintaining awareness of gravity in my arms/hands, so that's where I naturally check. Gravity feels heavy and wrong. At one point, gravity seems to pull in the wrong direction (horizontally). Although the feeling is hard to describe, it's very noticeably abnormal. I then get out of bed and walk to the door of the hotel room. I fear that maybe I'm awake, even though I can clearly breathe through my nose and gravity felt weird (once I stopped consciously checking gravity it stopped feeling like anything). I wake up. I'm happy because I remembered to check the feeling of gravity and because it felt abnormal so it seems like it's a viable ADA-RC target for me.

      2. This is a reoccurring dream. I'm with my dad at a shop with paddles for a game. They cost $30 which I think is too expensive. My dad agrees but says we should buy them anyways. He doesn't understand why that doesn't make sense. We end up going to another shop which has very high quality paddles for a better price. I don't know what the game actually is.

      Personally, I'm interested in self-awareness and try to be mindful throughout the day. With gravity, there seems to be a very obvious difference between the waking and dreaming states which is good for use as an ADA-RC target. But I'm not sure if there's a similarly obvious difference between the sense of self in dreams and waking states. Or is there is an effective way to integrate the Gravity RC (or other ADA-RC targets) with mindfulness? These are questions I'd like to answer.
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      I was on a business trip the rest of last week, drinking every night with a somewhat erratic sleep schedule (I blame my co-workers). Needless to my practice changed a little during this time. I continued my dream journal and remembered a decent amount of NLDs but I was not as consistent on inductions. I also continued the Gravity RC.

      Asleep: 11:30
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      1. I wake up naturally (or because my girlfriend was moving around in the bed). I'm slightly more alert than on other natural awakenings, and instantly remember my intention to lucid dream. I've been having trouble performing a full MILD induction on natural awakenings because I'm generally too close to sleep. This time I decided to do SSILD as it requires less active interaction. I don't remember doing this for long before drifting and possibly falling asleep. I become aware laying in bed, with the sensation of breathing through my plugged nose? I soon feel vibrations but become too aware/excited and the feeling stops. I relax and focus on the sensation of breathing through a plugged nose, and soon the vibrations return and I realize I've "fallen" into a dream. I know I'm in my bedroom and when I open my eyes that's confirmed. I get out of bed and walk to the door. I remember being scared in my last lucid dream of trying to phase through the door, so this time I tell myself I will do it. I take a few running steps to the door and jump through. It works! My memory becomes hazy because I haven't journaled this dream until now. However, I remember checking the sensation of gravity as I walked around my apartment to improve my Gravity RC. Gravity felt less strange this time, but still recognizably different than waking life. I'd describe it as slightly heavier/thicker gravity. Again, once I stopped consciously focusing on the sensation of gravity, I stopped feeling it. I decided to have sex and went back in bed, knowing that someone would be under the blankets. It happened and I had sex, but decided to stop before too long as I didn't want to wake up. I also remember worrying that I would make noise in real life if I continued. I again phased through a door and went outside. I tried to do long jumps to test gravity and the sensation of flight. I was only able to jump slightly farther than normal. Then I woke up.

      I'm really happy as this lucid dream lasted a long time for me. It isn't quite as crisp and clear as other lucid dreams I've had, and there are certainly memory gaps and fuzzy moments. But during the dream I remembered that I'm doing the Gravity RC in real life, I remembered my previous fear of phasing through doors, and I worried about whether I would make noises in real life while having sex in my dream. So I'm confident that this was truly lucid. I also was aware through the entire process of waking up from the dream.

      I will continue to focus on the Gravity RC and general self-awareness. During natural awakenings, I will do MILD or SSILD or a combination of both, whichever feels appropriate.
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      I seem to have weeks between visits lately but I see you had some nice successes there! Congratulations! If you have any questions, feel free to leave them and I will get back to you eventually.
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      Thanks Fogelbise! I haven't been updating my journal on a regular basis so I'll give a quick update on my progress since the last entry.

      For the past few weeks, I've continued with daytime awareness but I've shifted toward general mindfulness (think Mindfulness in Plain English Vipassana meditation) rather than focusing on gravity specifically. I've had two brief moments of lucidity, both of which followed the same pattern in terms of induction. It's a pattern that you will have seen several times before in my journal. After a WBTB, I drift off (and maybe even fall asleep?) before snapping back to awareness. I immediately notice that I'm in the process of "falling into a dream" (or maybe I'm even already asleep and it's a false awakening?) and I normally have the sensation of breathing through a plugged nose even though I'm either awake or else I'm falsely awake. I use this sensation of breathing as an anchor, and I generally know that I've entered a dream after several seconds.

      Many of these false awakenings/DEILD entries seem to occur after WBTB + SSILD/MILD (though sometimes I don't even do the SSILD/MILD). Since that's normally how my LD's begin, I figure I should focus on inducing them in that way. As I stated a month ago in my return to Dreamviews post, I still don't want to lose much sleep so I don't want to set many alarms throughout the night. I'm planning to set one alarm after about 5 hours of sleep to do an SSILD/MILD induction (or something like FILD/DEILD if I'm extremely tired) and hope that this along with my mindfulness practice will cause more of these WILD/DEILD/FA inductions. Lately, I haven't been getting much sleep so I've been too exhausted to practice during the night, even if I set an alarm. I either don't notice it, or I instantly fall back asleep. That will change once I start getting enough sleep again.
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      It's definitely a journey...each person seems to need quite different paths to get good at this and it sounds like you are well on your way to finding your path. Keep it up
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      Getting enough quality sleep and having a regular sleep schedule are both very important to improving the quality of dreams and to having lucid dreams. I myself am terrible about maintaining an early, regular bed time. One month in my first year of practice, I decided to dedicate myself to going to bed at the same, relatively early time, every night, something like 10pm. Within a couple weeks I was starting to have regular, long, epic dreams, and I think I had at least a couple LDs in there as well.

      General mindfulness is awesome. I'm a huge fan of mindfulness and "being a lucid person," 24/7. For lucid dreaming, though, I find I must also add in specific, strong intent to be lucid in dreams, and to recall dreams. If you're not doing that, try adding in some LaBerge (ETOLD)-style reflection/intention moments where you specifically really stop, examine your surroundings, thoughts, and think, "hey, this could be a dream *right now*." Look around, do a RC, slowly, carefully. And if you find that you are awake, don't get upset, just sort of shrug it off and affirm to yourself, "well, the next time I am dreaming, I remember to recognize that I am dreaming" or whatever works for you. Then imagine that you are dreaming, visualize getting lucid in your dream, and fulfilling your dream goals (I would imagine taking off flying).

      Try this for a while and see how it affects your dreaming!
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      Hi all,

      After another several year pause, I've returned (again)! Many more life changes have happened, but I always seem to find my way back to Lucid Dreaming and exploration of consciousness. I wanted to establish some form of routine before posting here again, and so I've been practicing for the last ~10 days.

      Fogelbise and FryingMan, thanks again for your words of support and encouragement throughout my workbook. I think the forum has died down considerably, and I'm not sure if Fogelbise is still active. But FryingMan, I can tell you that your post describing your Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming (Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall) makes so much intuitive sense and provides a (somewhat) practical approach to implementing Sageous' fundamentals, and I believe it will form the basis of my sustainable daily and nightly practice moving forward (more below...).

      As with any long-term goal, the key to success in Lucid Dreaming is surely consistency of practice. And to be consistent, I need to establish a routine which is sustainable. I was able to find that type of routine for physical activity (one daily walk + 30 minute work out), and I'm sure I can find the same type of thing for LDing. That being said, I need to create some personal rules from the outset that will help me avoid the mistakes of the past:

      1. No alarms - First, less chance of waking my girlfriend. Second, waking up naturally reduces the chance of insomnia, and I'm often in a better state for lucid dreaming induction. I believe that daily mindfulness practice and setting intentions will allow me to continue noticing when I wake up throughout the night.
      2. No ADA or ADA/RC. Every time I read Hufik's gravity-RC, the draw of daily lucidity is hard to resist. But I'm just not sure this practice is sustainable for me with the challenges of real-life. I think an awareness practice, combined with moments of reflection/recall (à la FryingMan/Sageous) will be more sustainable.

      Based on my previous LDs in this workbook, it's clear that a quick MILD/SSILD induction following natural awakenings seems to work for me, and does not require alarms nor significant sleep loss (usually). I would like to focus only on this "technique", while cultivating the fundamentals of self-awareness and memory by implementing FryingMan's motto (Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall), as well as some prospective memory exercises.

      With regard to this workbook, I will no longer write out my dreams. Instead, I will keep notes on bed time, wake time, number of natural awakenings noticed, number of NLDs recalled, and of course number of LDs. This should take no more than 5 minutes, even if I add notes on progress / issues.
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