Controlling non-lucids?

**Waterknight** · 08-30-2010 06:56 AM

Is it just me or do any of yall ever do this? I sometimes have non lucids in which I have full control over my mind/body and even in some cases enviroment but the thought never occurs to me that Im in a dream. my thought process in those normally goes something like this... "Hmm the other day I was reading about psychic stuff and so maybe reading that has awoken powers within me" I completely believe that it is real even though I can tell how insane it is.

I remember these dreams like I would if they were lucid dreams and they feel like real memories i just never realize that it is a dream until I try to use the powers in WL and cant do it.

**Bobblehat** · 08-30-2010 07:43 AM

Yes, I've experienced that. A high degree of control (including flying, teleporting and using portals) without realising I'm lucid.

**Xegar** · 08-30-2010 02:12 PM

Some people think this is lucid dreaming, but it is not. LDs are like reality, sometimes even clearer. I had one like this, this morning. When i talk to people about lucid dreaming, they either say they can control them or they don't give a sh*t about it. The ones who say they can control them are most likely talking about these kind of dreams, which can also be called semi-lucid ones (or they just can't accept the fact that they don't control them and lie even to themselves). When you are lucid, you realize that you are in a dream, and that you are sleeping in your bed. In these semi-lucids, you get some control, maybe even say you're dreaming, but it's not your conscious mind that says that, if that makes sense. Doing a Reality Check usually makes you lucid. And in my case, usually wakes me up after a few seconds, even though i use stabilization. It's probably a lack of experience.

**Puffin** · 08-30-2010 03:46 PM

Yes, I've controlled a load of non-lucid dreams before, probably because I'm completely "out" mentally so I don't remember the laws of physics and everything.

**Waterknight** · 08-30-2010 06:58 PM

So even if you are in complete control and thinking 80% rationally (cant say 100 because you still miss the dream) the only thing that separates a regular dream from a lucid one is just saying that you are dreaming? Even though you can consciously act out all your fantasies in both. Though you are more likely to in a lucid dream than you are in a non lucid that you control because in the regular ones you will think there will be real consequences

**Puffin** · 08-30-2010 07:06 PM

Exactly! After all, you believe regular dreams to be real while you're in them, but it might be skewed from real life such as you having powers or being in a different location.

**Amethyst Star** · 08-31-2010 04:53 AM

I've had quite a few of these, especially when I was younger, especially flying around all the time. I'd also decide I didn't want to be seen and DCs would look for me and not find me. I'd even gone as far as thinking "If I was lucid I'd..." and took action, but never realized I was dreaming.

Being truly "lucid" means being fully aware of the fact that you're dreaming. Some people come up with different terms such as "semi-lucid" "pre-lucid" "pseudo-lucid" and so forth, but it's really up to the dreamer to decide whether or not they were lucid, per say.