any unique ideas for lucid blackness?

**cytotoxicT** · 01-22-2011 06:25 PM

i know that every once and awhile there is a thread complaining about the heavy eyes/can barely see lucid problem. this issue has plagued me for some time. i get it with 100% of my WILDs. whenever i do a DEILD or traditional WILD, i dont form a dreamscape. instead, i feeling vibrations or sounds, do the nose RC, open my eyes/sit up in my bed, and am dreaming....in darkness. last night i chained 6 DEILDS but in 4 of them i couldnt make it out of the black stage. for those, after like 2 min, i would wake up. the last 2 lucids became not vivid dreams after working at it for a long time. so im writing this is in frustration.

ive tried INCREASE CLARITY, spinning, looking at hands/the floor, putting on glasses, using my hands to force my eyes open, ignoring it until it gets better (here i just stumble around and explore until i can see whats around me), everything i know of. i cant seem to break this connection with my real body. i think DEILDing is the best technique and i would hate to give it up just because of this. any unique ideas for desperate 'ol me?

**Puffin** · 01-22-2011 07:08 PM

I've learned, from my own experiences with total blackness or dim lighting, that it's best to not become stressed out if you try exiting the dream and it doesn't work. Maybe pretending that there's just a power outage will work; you can always summon an electrical unit, grab a wrench (knowing you'll feel it... right... about... now... in the dark), and adjust something in it so the lighting will come back on. But just because you can't see, it doesn't mean the dream's screwed up and nothing will happen. If it's pitch-black, imagine you're inside a house; then open a door and walk outside into a light area.

**cytotoxicT** · 01-22-2011 09:33 PM

i like the opening a door idea. and ill try to cement it in my brain by saying out loud, "oh man, its dark in this room. ill just go out now". thanks for the help

**Fitz** · 01-23-2011 12:14 AM

A few times just rubbing my hands together helped - the surroundings became more clear and vivid, somehow, as if I got some extra light. The other day, though, something weird happened - I went lucid and was talking to a group of DC's when suddenly everything went completely black. For a second I thought I simply woke up - but I saw pure blackness, with no hints of daylight pouring in through my eye-lids. And I don't think I could sense my own body - so I couldn't do anything about it other than waking up, which is what I did.

**Puffin** · 01-23-2011 12:18 AM

No problem, and good luck!

**acillis** · 01-25-2011 07:23 AM

well, this lucid blackness is very subjective, some people <my self included> look at this blackness as a other dimension, you dont have to believe this, just my thoughts on it' because even in the darkness you still have a dream body; even if you can not see it...
this is my technique's for getting out of the darkness... i once escaped the darkness by turning my dream body to fire, and i got rejected from the dark, <i only done it once this way tho> my main way to get out... is pick a random direction! anyway will do, and start running as fast as you possibly can! even when you reach top speed, try and push past it! and go even faster! when i get my Velocity at a insane rate, i push past it by blurring my vision and sort of enter warp speed, if you can attain this speed keep going, until in the distance you see a dreamscape appearing, works every time for me

**cytotoxicT** · 01-25-2011 07:51 AM

well i dont think i have the dream control to pull that off, but thats a badass way to beat the darkness. how did it feel when you turned to fire?

**acillis** · 01-25-2011 09:23 AM

well, i didnt really feel to much, though i heard the noise of it, i dont even recall seeing any fire

**Alucinor XIII** · 01-26-2011 05:19 PM

The only proven way for me was to simply pull down a pair of "dream goggles" from my forehead. It's sort of limited vision (from the rims of the goggles) but they worked very well. Good luck.