Memory Manipulation |
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Recently I have been thinking about the concept of extending dream time, and specifically the role "focusing attention" plays. This was partially influenced by the following threads: |
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Last edited by ethen; 02-17-2011 at 04:28 AM.
Memory Manipulation |
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Last edited by ethen; 02-17-2011 at 06:24 AM.
I've tried to slow down the experience of time in a LD but I woke up really quickly when I did. But I've had a chain of LDs that seemed like about 3 hours that was only 45 minutes tops. I didn't try to do this consciously it just sort of happened. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
So I came across these videos whilst browsing another thread, and it has some interesting things to think about with regard to false remembrance and dream control: |
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Yea...I don't know. Here is what I think. |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
I find this thread extremely fascinating. I too have had a dream location (that I felt) I had been to many times only to realize that I had not once I had woken up. Would it be possible to stop time in a lucid dream? Go back in time? Also, what would be the purpose of implanting thoughts, sounds like inception. |
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In other words, quiet the internal dialogue. Also, don't judge. Saying that it is a beautiful day is being judgmental. Try to absorb the sun, feel the breeze, or lack thereof, and exist in the day without naming it. The Tao that can be named is not the true Tao. |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
@ Rman |
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Last edited by ethen; 02-19-2011 at 03:26 AM. Reason: extra info
In short, I think it is just a little more simple, though certainly taking advantage of a complex mind. Man(kind) learns. We remember. Certainly we take these memories into our dreams. Man also has the ability to create. We can imagine things we have never seen. We extrapolate from what we know and imagine that which we do not know, or is not real. I believe we do the same in our dreams. |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
I wonder, could someone then be able to "replace" memories of traumatic experiences? |
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Last edited by GavinGill; 02-19-2011 at 11:38 PM.
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Last edited by ethen; 02-19-2011 at 10:47 PM.
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
Sort of. I am suggesting that, while in a dream, you create memories of things that never really happened. Once awake, those created memories would then be indistinguishable from real memories. |
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Last edited by ethen; 02-20-2011 at 07:44 AM.
na actually it all makes perfect since. i had just never thought of it, why in my dream im somewhere and with people iv never seen before i dont realise its a dream. one way iv worked out is that in real life every couple of hours and everytime somehting wierd or unexpected or anything that causes a emotional spike just say toyour self "yeh im dreaming" this habbit will follow through in dreams. so its wierd how you can make your self remember somehting in a dream yet you cant realise your in a dream when in unfamiliar places and people. |
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Sweet dreams and roses on your pillow.
Tutorial for Manipulating Dream Memories (1st Draft) |
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Hi, nice thread. |
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Yes it would, particularly in a lucid dream. All of the mental activity created by simply observing your dream ("wow, this is cool", "yikes, that's kind of creepy", etc) actually shapes the dream itself, whether you are aware of it or not. By quieting the mind, you would eliminate much of the "conscious interference" that can cause dreams to be unstable and fall apart (or spiral out of control). In a place where thought is matter and emotion is physics, meditation is a very useful tool. |
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im not sure if you have mentioned it, but i think that many false memories that we have in dreams are not so much false memories, but memories of previously forgotten dreams. had a major one last night that made me think this is true. i have never managed to meditate for long in a dream, but it has been amazing when i have. it is great for stabilising a dream, although something will gradually take your attention away. |
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Actually forgotten dreams was one initial theory I had, and I talked about it in this post if you'd like to read a bit about my thoughts on the subject. |
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ah cool cheers, sorry it was late and i was scanning a bit. for what its worth i agree with what you say |
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No worries, those first twos posts were pretty long. |
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Just an update, I haven't forgotten about this thread...just haven't had any good opportunities to LD and experiment. I don't really get much sleep on the week days (insomniac), and on the weekends I tend to go out and get drunk...which needless to say doesn't help the situation either. Getting a good amount of sleep does a lot for me with LDs, and so I am going to try to take it easy this week end and see what happens. |
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great work. Very intriguing. Keep it up. |
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Dreaming Is Anybodys Game But Being Lucid...Now Thats Earned
All hail the Lucid Dreaming Bible 'Exploring the world of Lucid dreaming'
WILDs= 150+
DILD= 50+
WBTB+WILD= 100
Total LD's: 300+
I just woke up from a DILD, but forgot I was still trying to do this stuff |
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