Ninja world

Ninja world

This is the first page and start of a hopefully amazing adventure.

Getting lucid and staying lucid is a rather tricky thing to do. You remind yourself that you're dreaming constantly when you perform tasks that are impossible in waking life. To counter this, people have come up with an idea that I will try out.

The idea is to follow the rules of the world you end up in, and try to live in the moment. You don't think about lucid dreaming more than you can while being lucid, other than stabilizing the dream and making sure you don't lose lucidity, you just follow the rules.

When you get confident enough to fly or do any kind of superpower without thinking much about it, when it all feels natural, then you can do it without risking to end the dream prematurely. This can be quite hard for some people, and creating a world where this is possible will make the dream less "forced".

If you're in a world where superpowers are possible, I believe that you will be able to stay lucid and remain in the dream for a very long time even though you do things that should be impossible in real life.

The idea

What I intend to do, is to create a world similar the world that of Naruto. It's a ninja world with different countries. Each country has a speciality based on the elements of nature. I will not create the Naruto world itself, but a similar place. I have no idea how the land looks, how it's run, who will be there and what my own powers are. I will be a ninja like the rest, and I will work my way up through the ranks, or down.

To do:

1. Use a portal to go there, look around and fly as high as possible to get a clear view of the landscape. Look at the details, and wake myself up immediately after to make a large map of the place. This is the only time flying will be permited (until learned if possible).

2. Find out what my powers are. This is done in Naruto by holding a special card and focusing a bit of chakra into it. The card will tell you your primary nature allignment.
The different nature allignments are: Fire, Earth, Wind, Water and Lightning.

3. Interact with people and let the adventure begin!
As I go and find out more and more about the world, I will add things to my map. What countries there are (if any), different people, items I find and so on. Having a huge map drawn and gradually expanded will make it easier to get a clear picture of the place and keep me motivated.

Rules

Not everything will be possible. I guess doing other powers than that of your primary allignment will be possible, only you will be the strongest with that particular element. You won't be able to do much at first. Practice makes perfect!

The world is built up so that people have a Chakra Energy System. You use chakra to do different things and you gradually get more and more the more you use it. When you're out of chakra, you will be exhausted.

The rest is up to you!

The conclusion is: Draw a big map of a world, explore and live in that world with an alter ego. Fill in the map with details and information about the world.

There's much talk about whether Shared Dreaming is real or not, but I do know one thing. The experience itself is real in the dream, and if people are up for it, I would gladly "share" this world with you. How about I start it all off by finding out how the world looks and what it is called and we can take it from there?

If you have any thoughts or suggestions at all, feel free to post. I just wrote up what was on my mind. I'm sure I have forgotten alot and there are probably things that needs changing, I want to make sure everything's perfect before I do this.

This is what the map should look like, although I will draw it in real life and put it up on my wall. It will be alot bigger and alot more detailed and nicely done ofcourse.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8889/worldgu.png

Yes I got the idea from different people's threads. Mostly from the elite of Shared Dreaming, KingYoshi and the "Dreamscaping" thread. I guess it will be like the "Serial Dream RPG" only with more set rules and in a different kind of world.

Spam with suggestions. Keep on dreaming!

*EDIT* Having a subforum about this might be something worth looking into. If enough people are interested and intend to do this fully, they will have their own threads with their pictures posted, and it will be like a story.

Looks nice, and I'd definitely join it even thought I haven't had my first LD yet I'm sure I'll experience it soon.
Like the idea, I'll let you know when I join :)

That sounds really cool! If I could LD more often, then I would try this too! Also please post a picture of the real map once you make one! I'm really looking forward to your experiences in this "world"! I used to watch Naruto quite a bit, but then I stopped.

What element do you hope you get? Cause if you get wind, would you be able to fly? If shared dreaming was real, then this would be so fun, you could fight with other people and train your skills.

EDIT: When you draw the map, it could possibly change cause it's a dream though. So what would happen if the landscape all totally changed to something different?

Yes, Wind can definitely be manipulated into lifting you up, granting you the ability to fly, although I wouldn't say it's something easy to do. In any kind of anime flying is rather rare :P Also, even if Shared Dreaming isn't real. Meeting up with people who do this will be possible. You know what kind of powers they have, what they look like etc. I don't care if it's "real" or not. The experience will still be amazing :)

Did you read my edit aout your map?

Oh, hmmm. I don't intend to fly high up more than the first time. If anything would be different when I'm on the ground then I will edit it on there yes. If you study the map and really imprint it in your mind, any changes that has been made has a logical explanation. Your mind will find excuses, ask a DC about why the lake isn't there anymore and he will answer the best he can. Perhaps there's a mystical creature swallowing up big parts of the land, then you have to find it and banish that bastard.

Adventures like this will pop up, and things that shouldn't work will work. But aslong as you try and know the rules all you can do is to focus on them. Try to stick to the rules that are set and learn how they work. This will ensure you always have a good time.

Alrighty then, I'll be waiting for your first post with a map or other stuff then!

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Originally Posted by Matte87

What I intend to do, is to create a world similar the world that of Naruto. It's a ninja world with different countries. Each country has a speciality based on the elements of nature. I will not create the Naruto world itself, but a similar place. I have no idea how the land looks, how it's run, who will be there and what my own powers are. I will be a ninja like the rest, and I will work my way up through the ranks, or down.

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Oh, cool idea. I wonder what people will come up with, and even if it will stay on a single planet? I was currently going at the power-freak planet (random planet on my dreams), but had to teleport out of there due to some technical problems <.<

I'm sure other continents will play a part in it all sooner or later. I intend to explore the main one first and just let my mind create whatever it can think of. I will ask what the place is called and talk to DC's. Make friends and find items which I will then describe and try to draw. Everything I do will be written down and the map will be updated each time there's something new to add.

To make the whole thing more "real", I'm thinking I should play the amnesia card. You don't just suddenly pop up there, you must have been there from the start, and if I just claim I have amnesia, who knows what I have done in that world? I might be a famous rogue, a hero who recieved a mortal wound or something like that.

I thought of a cool idea of how to use the chakra system. What if when the dream is about to end and the quality is getting sucky, you rub your hands or do any kind of stabilization technique. This can represent low on chakra or something like that and you replenish it by rubbing your hands.

The first things I will do is to train myself in regular fighting. Enhance my muscles and become great at hand to hand combat. I think I will find out my nature allignment later on.

So, anyone got more ideas?

Hey, I was thining about this last night and I had a dream about a Naruto commercial! It was like: " Naruto is back with more power than ever!" And it went through a bunch of fighting scenes plus this huge guy on a throne with a sword backwards on his head, smashing things coming at him with it.

hm... not many people fly in naruto except for the people that train using that meteor thing. wind isnt really flying, its cutting. this sounds like a great idea, i was going to do this on my own once i got better, but i keep feeling like i would make myself extremely OP and make the fights kinda boring

If being overpowered is a problem, make rules so that you have to train to earn powers, that should solve that problem. Either that or make the enemies freaky strong.

You should like make your own move like the "Rasengan" in Naruto. Lol, that thing was freaking cool. ;)

rasenshuriken is better, wonder what it would do vs. susanoo... personally i like genjutsu better... but it might be boring in dreams to just make people fall down in a coma or something, so i think ill start off with taijutsu and just kicking ass

I'll try this, and tell you if I get anything.

This. Is. SPARTAAAAAAA!!!!! Awesome!

Man, stuff like this popping up all over the forums makes me want to be able to dream lucid even more badly! This one even more so since I am a huge Naruto fan!

The map is cute ^^

I think there should be even more threads and ideas like this. I like to read how dreamers do these tasks, it's so exciting. I wish I could stop only being onlooker though and actually participate. Maybe I will, my lucid dreaming abilities seem to be on the rise now :)

I also intend to use only taijutsu to start out with. I'll move onto powers once I'm familiar with the world and that might aswell take months. Like Hukif said, I intend to start from scratch. I will try to really force myself into believing it's a new place with new rules. I will not be OP but rather weak to start out with, and all the ninjutsu stuff will have to be learned from another person or something similar. That way, I will appreciate what I learn alot more.

Next time I get lucid I will try to make a portal. I haven't used portals yet so who knows what will happen. I might not be ready for this yet, but I sure as hell intend to do it one day! :)

Amazing!
I'm also doing something similar to this but I have the same world as in naruto and I'll sure join you when this "project" is ready (I believe in shared dreaming ).
In my ld's I have techniques similar to Neji and I already figured out how to use Kaiten (Rotation in the English Naruto). The chakra network system works great in dreams, as long as you believe in it.
There is a thread, which you may have already seen, here on DV which is called "The infinite universes of lucid dreaming" or something like that. It sure helps with your project. I made a naruto universe with this trick and with a set of specific rules (like no OP abilities and such stuff)

well sometimes you need to be overpowered lol, like if your fighting an akutsuki or kage lvl person, but i dont think id be able to do that stuff with my level of dream control anyway, so working up from the bottom is best either way.

First try was a failure. I was going to "teleport" there with some kind of machine, inducing another dream for me. But I ended up on a bus, being a girl, in some kind of manga world called Soccom. Anyone else has any luck?

Idea: You do raids with your friends that you know irl. You have 2 fates like in Fable. If your good you can do a raid on the dragon dungeon. If bad you can raid a town and fight all the chiefs.
Also have a pet that can do scouting missions for you.

Anything happen yet? No ones spoke on here for almsost a week!

I haven't been lucid since last time I tried. Been having a lousy week of dreaming. I think I will try to go there Sunday morning though, I'll let you know what happens :) The ATM looking machine will get me there for sure.

I read this and felt such a surge of excitement! I WILL try this the next time I'm lucid, which will hopefully be tonight! :D
I am a little confused, however. Here my questions towards this:

- How do you go about making a portal? And then what do you do after that? Step through believing you'll end up in a Naruto-type world?
- Would you need to go through a portal every time to get there or possibly go straight there?
- How do you go about making a world with rules and such?
- What if you get there and decide no telekinesis is allowed, yet you can do it anyway? Or a similar situation?
- How do you make yourself start from scratch?
Also, I've only recently discovered dream cartography, so I don't understand that too well, either.

I quite like the amnesia idea. I think I'll go through with that to find out who it is I actually am. Just finding out my identity could be an adventure in itself. It could be asking around a village and then hearing about some guy who can help me, so I go on a quest to a distant land to see a Sage who knows a remembrance jutsu or something, then my brain would make up the rest. :P

Note: Naruto has been part of my life for years. I love it. :)

I realise it will be very hard to make myself believe I can't do any telekinesis or flying as I know how to, but I will try. I tried making a portal, but I haven't done anything like that before. I expect to end up in a Naruto-like world world yes. It worked in a strange way last time, which will be the way I do it next time.

We'll see how far I can take this, and you! Perhaps I will end up in a world where telekinesis is "allowed" and I can do it from scratch, but the idea is to start from scratch and just see how I develop.

I know I can't set all rules in stone. But if I believe in some basic ones they will probably apply.

I also love it, atleast the parts without the fillers :) Good luck to both of us!

Interesting. Very interesting.

Well, I'm going to see if I can spawn some kind of Oblivion like portal tonight, as I can see that in my mind's eye quite easily. But then again, I may end up in a plane of hell, fighting off Daedra. :P Naww I'll just have to make myself believe that it's actually going to transport me to a Naruto environment, and continue from there really.

And yes, best of luck. :)

I like the idea, but how will the whole "use up chakra" thing work.
It would pretty much require a list of every jutsu and how much chakra it take to use each one.

If you are really serious about jutsus I suggest looking up an rpg online with a good list of jutsus, it will probably take a bit of searching, but I remember seeing one before with every move ever used in the manga/anime

WinRic: I have no idea really, it was an idea that probably needs alot of refining, but I do think there should be some kind of limit system. Who knows, using a badass jutsu might make me dizzy, weak or feel drained. Or it might not.

I just thought about the chakra system and maybe it works if you make it like this:

For example you got 3 jutsus. 1 weak 1 normal and 1 badass-super-finishing move :D So in your dream you can use the weak almost as often as you want, and for the normal you need a couple of minutes to regen after use. And the badass move completely drains you so you need to finish your opponent or you have to surrender. With draining I mean like in real life when you do sports, when you feel exhausted. Just think that the jutsus exhaust you and try not to use super powers or stuff like that.

Another approach would be that you act like you have a tailed-beast inside you that gives you chakra (it also would be badass if you transform to it and kick your opponents ass :) )
If you have doubts about if you are able to do it (creating portals and such stuff) you won't be able to because after all it's your mind.

Yeah something like that would be good Katsuno. I just woke up from a second try of getting there and I failed once again. I will give it a third shot, but after that I might put the project on hold for a while until I can make portals or teleport properly. I'm in no hurry though.

Also I'm confident I will be able to create portals one day, but there's a difference in believing you can and actually being able to. I knew I could do telekinesis but I couldn't, until I one day managed to do it properly and now I can use it most of the times.

I didn't become lucid at all last night. It will have to wait until tonight in my case. ><

Also, Matte, have you considered asking the dream to do something for you? Once in a lucid I was on top of something extremely high and needed a ladder to get down, to avoid waking up on impact if I were to just jump or something (I have a fear of heights). I managed to spot a ladder and move it by waving my hand in the direction I wanted it to go in, but it was too small, so I asked it to grow wider, and it did so for me.

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Also I'm confident I will be able to create portals one day, but there's a difference in believing you can and actually being able to. I knew I could do telekinesis but I couldn't, until I one day managed to do it properly and now I can use it most of the times.

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Yeah you're right. But I know from personal experience how you can learn anything without even having tested it once. You have to make a concept for it in rl. For example the 360 degree vision of Neji. I never thought it would work but I when I was bored I decided to make a concept on how it could work. It took about 1 week to finally figure out how it could be done and when I was lucid it worked on the first try. Since then I always make concepts for my techniques and till yet it never failed.

I'm still confused on what we are supposed to do.

Yeah visualizing the thing before actually doing it usually works quite well. I've visualized standing infront of a portal alot, and that there's jungle on the other side. It's just that from the start since I was younger, I haven't had confidence in making a portal. I'll find a way and I'll try it out in a dream now. I'm pretty confident that I can and will, but it's just that I haven't yet that I'm not 100% sure it will work.

Also I'm not a big fan of asking things in my lucids. I am the master and shouldn't have to bend to anything :P worth a shot one day though.

If I get lucid tonight and manage to make a portal, I think the way I'm going to go about it is by thinking of Naruto and visualising the hidden leaf entrance. If I end up there (or somewhere near) that's all I'll really need I think, because then I know, wherever I am, it has some relation to the ninja world, and my brain will make everything else up.

Also, I have an idea which could help towards making a portal. I remember reading a book one time where this person could 'slice through' reality, thereby creating a portal of sorts. Maybe if you were to find something sharp and 'slice through' the dream world, you could just step through the gap, with the intentions of stepping into the ninja world?

I was actually thinking about doing something like that. But instead of ninjas it be like a roman Coliseum.

Like starting out as a weak gladiator. And after learning to fight becoming the top undefeated gladiator (or maybe i will be defeated a few times, who knows) and after that maybe overthrowing a prince. Having sex with some hot wemon. Being a king and taking over nearby villages.

WOW so many possibllities.

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Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I was actually thinking about doing something like that. But instead of ninjas it be like a roman Coliseum.

Like starting out as a weak gladiator. And after learning to fight becoming the top undefeated gladiator (or maybe i will be defeated a few times, who knows) and after that maybe overthrowing a prince. Having sex with some hot wemon. Being a king and taking over nearby villages.

WOW so many possibllities.

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Sounds badass.

Sounds good do me, interesting idea, but when I saw the map....ummmm....well....it looks like a 3 year old drew it, I lol'ed at it. But really, nice idea :)

No luck so far.

Well... don't really know if this will be of help, but what I did was, instead of going into a new world through teleportation, first went into total darkness, then created the rules on myself and then let the dream take me wherever. Started training right after that, of course, since I didn't want to die.

I'm going to attempt this tonight. I'll try to focus as much as I can to get lucid, but I have been kinda slacking off lately. Also, Dakotahnok: That sounds awesome. I would love for the whole "story" to play out like that. Starting off as a bum basicly, to advance and rise in power. I will stick to the ninjaworld though, and as for the rules, I'll see what rules they throw at me. I'm thinking of giving it even more free play without stuff preset.

A ninja world, explore it from there. I will summon a portal by ripping through space and time. Got the advice from Krista and I've read about it working for alot of people.

This sounds like a really fun idea, I can't really lucid dream. But one of my first goals has been to create my own dream world once I get good at it. But my idea was to just make a random world without a theme or meaning. However the idea of an anime type world sounds cool, maybe a Pokemon world, SOOOO many possibilities once I start lucid dreaming.

Oh yes I will definitely let it be completely random. I'm not planning things I'm just giving an example of what mine might turn out as.

Ahhhh I would LOVE this...
Although, I don't like Naruto at all, but I do love Bleach...
I'm going to try and become a powerful Shinigami methinks! :cheeky:

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Ahhhh I would LOVE this...
Although, I don't like Naruto at all, but I do love Bleach...
I'm going to try and become a powerful Shinigami methinks! :cheeky:

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I have had a Zanpakuto in one of my lucids, I communicated with it, the name was Shezuko. No Shi/Bankai though :(

im a naruto expert id be whuppin XD

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Originally Posted by Soulnote

I have had a Zanpakuto in one of my lucids, I communicated with it, the name was Shezuko. No Shi/Bankai though :(

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That's so cool! I've thought of making my own dream weapon alot aswell. Like forge it for several months. See what kind of shape it has, imbue it with any kind of element or just pure energy. Perhaps a soul will "inhabit" it and it will give me good advice through telepathy. Dream Guide style. I'm going for the ninja world theme, all else is to be explored.

I'm just gonna walk up into Hidden Leaf village in an Akatsuki robe looking for trouble. I don't know who is gonna attack but it's gonna be fun.

I've had many lucid dreams since I last replied on here, but every single one, I completely forgot about this... :(

if i made my own weapon i would make it the blades that absorb chakra like asuma, except bigger and i would channel a massive amount of chakra to make giant chakra blades

I had a lucid this morning, but I dismissed the thought of teleporting as I was afraid I would wake up easily since I was sleeping in a hard chair... Also the dream before that a few days ago I did teleport. Ended up in a small house with bamboo for walls. Almost got it now! Teleporting by spinning is what I will try to do to go there.

Sounds awesome! I think i'm going to try to visit the Ninja Academy and see what techniques and stuff the teachers can teach me. When I step back outside, I'll be in the Ninja World. That's another way of getting there the first time ;) Going to the Nibja Academy sounds like something I'd do first. Then graduate, train, do missions etc. Perhaps I can have the teachers teach me to make portals

Argh I keep forgetting about this... Had 5 lucids in the past 3 days and in none of them did this enter my recollection! Damn it. :(

I haven't given up on this if you wonder why I haven't been posting. I've decided what I want to do. First off I will learn a few neat tricks. I will fight a couple of people to test my limits, and also learn Healing before I go there. I managed to summon a weapon (a short, curved samurai sword) and I a dog to call upon.

I want to be as ready as can be when I go there, I intend to thwart the current evil rulers in time. But first I will help out anyone in need and just see what happens. I think restraining myself too much will be too hard for me at the moment, but I still intend to go to a Ninja World.

I have recurring ninja dreams already, I'm in feudal japan, a sumurai, and were at war with another clan. Since it's only steel and grit, they get pretty messy, I'm surprised how much instinct i've got, it feels like past life regression. I remember knocking arrows out of the air real time with the side of my blade cause I was lucid enough to know they would be top heavy and not stop if I cut them. I want to try building a defined world were the members can try shared dreaming (I have got it to work occasionally), rules seem only useful for preplanned fights or adventures with agreed upon constraints for challenges. I'm gonna think about designs for the universe, and how it functions.

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I have recurring ninja dreams already, I'm in feudal japan, a sumurai, and were at war with another clan. Since it's only steel and grit, they get pretty messy, I'm surprised how much instinct i've got, it feels like past life regression. I remember knocking arrows out of the air real time with the side of my blade cause I was lucid enough to know they would be top heavy and not stop if I cut them. I want to try building a defined world were the members can try shared dreaming (I have got it to work occasionally), rules seem only useful for preplanned fights or adventures with agreed upon constraints for challenges. I'm gonna think about designs for the universe, and how it functions.

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All you would need is a single detailed structure that is recognizable by everyone, and an agreement to meet and it would work. However lets end this shared dreaming discussion here.

This needs to be done! I've waited 10 months in silence, and no posts! Get to it! :D