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      Hello, everyone New to the forums but not really new to lucid dreaming -- I'm getting lucid dreams a few times a month (usually DILD, I fly a lot in dreams and I've been using that as a dreamsign.)

      I'm running into a snag though. You see, I primarily use my lucidity to have dream sex (yeah I know, lol) -- it's a relatively easy way to entertain myself that doesn't take a lot of energy or time manipulating the environment. But for some strange reason, strangers in the dreamworld are always trying to interfere with my fun.

      I wasted a lucid dream last night because the DCs wouldn't leave me alone and I eventually started shoving people out of the window in frustration, and did that until I woke up. I've tried avoiding the DCs, moving with my dream-partner to a different location, locking the doors, hiding from them, kicking them off the stairs, summoning demons to hold them back, even getting in their face and threatening to erase them from existence. Different strangers pop up literally every time I attempt to have sex while lucid, and they're always trying to distract me. They usually succeed, too, or at least make me lose lucidity trying to handle them.

      My friend, of course, has already suggested that I just switch to doing something else in dreams, since this is pretty much the only time I ever get harassed by DCs. I'm not willing to give it up though...any clues how I can permanently stop this from happening? Thus far I've had the most luck with summoning demon helpers to handle the DCs, or telling them outright that they're figments of my imagination and I can destroy them.

      If anyone else has run into something similar or has other suggestions for how to handle difficult DCs, I'd love to hear it.

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      Has happened to me before, I proceededto punch the DC square in the face and attempt to kamehameha his ass, but honestly I believe this is all in your head. I think you may be subconsciously associating some feelings of guilt towards having sex with strangers and this guilty feeling manifests itself in the form of dream characters coming to stop you from doing the thing you think is "dirty" even if you are dreaming. Now thats just my guess and not for sure the right answer, but I do know that it is in your head, DC's are in your head and your subconscious is creating them, and you also have the power to stop them from interrupting you from whatever it may be you are doing.
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      Just a suggestion have you tried going into a basement that has a blast door for closing you two in? Or have you tried going to a place, and then Magically appear inside a iron box with no windows and is 15 inches thick? With some light inside so it isn't pitch black in there. One time in a dream I was being over whelmed by people and creatures, and finally I got mad and I turned into this giant shadow head demon that put out a flashing light that covered the planet. They all turned into a pile of ashes and never returned. The planet was pretty dead then.

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      The more you run, the more they will come after you. Just don't run away from them.. You created them, so you can do anything you want with them, so command them to stop, and they will obey..
      And why command, when you can talk to them ? Just say :"Give me a break for 15mins ok ?" they will do it.. (They just want to play )

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      Thanks for the advice, guys

      I do have a feeling I know what psychological thing is causing the dream harassment -- it's not so much feelings of guilt as anxiety about not having any privacy, something that used to bug me a lot when I was younger. That's also why I learned to fly in dreams at a really young age -- trying to get away from unpleasant DCs.

      I usually resort to locking doors but they almost never work in dreams, probably because I expect them not to work -- kind of how I "expect" to be able to fly, and I can. So far the demon bodyguards (which came out of nowhere) were the most effective, so I might try confronting the DCs and asking to be left alone, then try to summon something to deal with them if that doesn't work.

      For dream problems you've learned to expect, does it help to visualize your solution? I'm pretty good about recalling dream goals while lucid -- if I expect to be bothered, I wonder if it'd help to visualize ways of dealing with the DCs so I could practice handling them. They're wild cards though -- they're seldom the same person.

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      New to this forum to but a long time lucid dreamer. My sugestion to you would be to comand your subconscience with your goals each night when you go to sleep. It may take some time but for me its always 100% succes. Good luck.

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      If the DCs are always annoying you, why not ask them what they want net time you're lucid? Try to get a dialogue started. Even ask out loud to the dream itself why it's doing this. Maybe the DCs have some sort of reason for being in your way, or maybe the dream is trying to tell you something.

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      If a dream character is causing trouble just beat them up or think of them to go away xD whenever they cause me problems that's what i do, just be aware and make them go away, or physically make them go away with powers or something
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      Thanks again for all the advice! Since I posted this I've tried out three of the techniques mentioned (as I've had more LDs where the dream characters came in to crash my parties.)

      I had a long string of lucid "nightmares" where I was lucid, and knew I was dreaming, but DCs kept chasing me with intent to cause me harm -- avoiding them didn't help as they would always find me, and when I asked what they wanted they tried to extort money out of me...being an idiot and not 100% lucid at the moment, instead of giving them all the useless dream-money they wanted, I got offended and tried to behead them with a katana. I can't tell you how they managed to get back up after losing their heads, but being menaced by headless DCs in a dark house is not high on my list of things that I enjoy doing

      I do usually take a stand against the bogeymen in my nightmares, and this is also another recurring theme in my dreams...I can't destroy anything that's chasing me. I can throw bombs, chop people's heads off, all sorts of extreme methods, and they'll just get right back up and keep on chasing me.

      So last night I was lucidly exploring and found myself in a hotel with different locks on the door...instead of keyed locks, they had one of those latches with a metal loop that folds down to hook over a metal bar. I think seeing that the door was latched might have made the difference, because it kept out the invaders for several minutes before I forgot about the latch and they got in anyway

      I've got a bad habit of going through "lucid" dreams as if I'm superhuman (flying, breaking rules, going after dream goals, etc) but still reacting as if I'm in a real world as opposed to a dream -- hence being unwilling to give up my money. I'll try bribing/bargaining with the DCs next time if I can't lock them out, I think.
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      hmm... well it seems to me that it all has to do with whats in your head (obviously.. since we're talking about dreaming...). but it seems like if you really had "faith" or if you really knew that they wouldnt come, they wouldnt. you could just pretend they didnt exist and they wouldnt. my guess is that you are putting too much thought into this and creating the problem by feeding the fire.... its just a guess from the things that i have done in the past. keep us up to date on whats happening!
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      This happens to me sometimes too. Locking doors doesn't work. The doors shrink or people try to smash them open. The intent to hide from someone or something creates the someone or something that you're trying to hide from. If they appear, just let them watch. They'll probably disappear after a little while because you'll be concentrating on something else.
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      When I'm bothered by aggressive or scary dream characters in a lucid dream, I try to either ignore them or respond to them with kindness. If I ignore them, they usually disappear. If I'm nice to them, they usually stop being aggressive or scary.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Renyao View Post
      I primarily use my lucidity to have dream sex (yeah I know, lol) -- it's a relatively easy way to entertain myself that doesn't take a lot of energy or time
      Misquote of the year!

      But seriously, your problem is simple to overcome. First rule of dreaming is that everything requires your attention to exist. When annoying dream characters interfere, just ignore them into oblivion.

      Quote Originally Posted by Renyao View Post
      they're always trying to distract me. They usually succeed, too, or at least make me lose lucidity trying to handle them.
      Really, that's all they can do. If they distract you, it means they've caught your attention, which is the only thing that is making real.

      Just ignore them. Zoom in on your partner so you can't see anything else. This method always works and requires very little effort.
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      Try befriending the threatening DCs. If you do this, they'll probably stop trying to hurt you. (Heh, once I did this with a nightmarish humanoid creature made of decayed flesh. He was actually a pretty cool dude.)

      Better yet, have the nightmares guard you. If you see the threatening DCs as scary, the other nuisance DCs likely will too, and odds are high they'll leave you be.
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      Really do appreciate the advice, everyone, and as I said earlier it's been a big help.

      I have tried ignoring the annoying DCs -- it backfired on me pretty hilariously, probably because I was concentrating so hard on "ignoring" them that I accidentally gave them all the attention they needed. They got between me and my partner and one of them literally stuck a banana in my mouth, I'm not even joking. I mentioned in the first post that I started literally pitching DCs out of the upstairs window at one point; well, that was why. Lol.

      I'm pretty sure by now that my expectation of getting interrupted is what causes the interruptions, just like I expect/fear that I'll be powerless, and the doors won't work, and that they won't leave me alone. It's funny, because this has been a consistent pattern in my sex dreams since way back before I ever started practicing lucidity. Some self-hypnosis or affirmations would likely help with this too, at least to give me confidence in dealing with the interruptions if they're inevitable. Maybe once I develop a foolproof method of canceling out these interruptions they'll mostly disappear, like my nightmares went away when I started being able to fly away from them.

      My best success was in summoning really demonic-looking helpers to act as bodyguards -- I don't know if I could do that on command (it happened spontaneously) but the other, independent DCs were so scared of my minions they started offering to help me rather than trying to interrupt.

      Does speaking out loud in dreams help to cement your wishes into reality? The one time I threatened to erase the DCs from reality (I said, "You are all characters in MY dream! I can obliterate you with my mind! Go away!") it was also startlingly effective, though again I think my belief in what I was saying made the difference.

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      Try having sex on the clouds or in the air lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by Renyao View Post
      My best success was in summoning really demonic-looking helpers to act as bodyguards
      Wouldn't that kill the mood?

      You're right that by now you've more or less cemented that archetypal structure through repetition. But there are always creative ways to get around it. Just do it under the blankets, maybe in space. Underwater? Unless squid people show up, in which case I think we've all seen enough hentai to know where that's going...

      You could always try protective barriers, force fields, circles of protection. Or just let them watch.

      I still stand by the ignore method, although admittedly that's more difficult than it sounds. And of course I usually do it while on the move where I can just turn my back on something and walk away, which lends it a little more effectiveness.

      But really you shouldn't care if they are there or not. The fact that you want them gone means you're already paying them too much attention.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Wouldn't that kill the mood?
      My dreams are pretty crazy, so no, not really. (I was in a haunted house so the demonic things made total sense at the time.)

      Just wanted to pop back into the thread and let you guys know that I succeeded, thanks to all the help I had a lucid dream last night where several DCs should have been able to interrupt me, but I felt confident they weren't going to be a problem and I clearly felt them "fade away" once I stopped paying attention to them. I've realized there is an important difference between "wishing someone you're ignoring would go away, while hoping they don't interfere" and "knowing someone is merely a figment of the dreamworld, therefore is powerless to interrupt you".

      I'm sure I will still need more practice, but this is still very encouraging. I appreciate everyone's advice

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      Quote Originally Posted by Renyao View Post
      Hello, everyone New to the forums but not really new to lucid dreaming -- I'm getting lucid dreams a few times a month (usually DILD, I fly a lot in dreams and I've been using that as a dreamsign.)

      I'm running into a snag though. You see, I primarily use my lucidity to have dream sex (yeah I know, lol) -- it's a relatively easy way to entertain myself that doesn't take a lot of energy or time manipulating the environment. But for some strange reason, strangers in the dreamworld are always trying to interfere with my fun.

      I wasted a lucid dream last night because the DCs wouldn't leave me alone and I eventually started shoving people out of the window in frustration, and did that until I woke up. I've tried avoiding the DCs, moving with my dream-partner to a different location, locking the doors, hiding from them, kicking them off the stairs, summoning demons to hold them back, even getting in their face and threatening to erase them from existence. Different strangers pop up literally every time I attempt to have sex while lucid, and they're always trying to distract me. They usually succeed, too, or at least make me lose lucidity trying to handle them.

      My friend, of course, has already suggested that I just switch to doing something else in dreams, since this is pretty much the only time I ever get harassed by DCs. I'm not willing to give it up though...any clues how I can permanently stop this from happening? Thus far I've had the most luck with summoning demon helpers to handle the DCs, or telling them outright that they're figments of my imagination and I can destroy them.

      If anyone else has run into something similar or has other suggestions for how to handle difficult DCs, I'd love to hear it.
      The same thing happens to me when I play Skyrim. : / Stupid glitches.

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      two words, sentry gun... automatic, place one at each door way, claymores security cameras c4 the whole deal, make the best defensive position... works on call of duty, should work in dreams

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      It's all in your mind, just know that they won't harrass you, and you're good.
      Why don't they harras you any time? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING IT!
      Because you have this idea in your head that they're going to bug you, THEY DO!
      But, if it still doesn't work, then just create an obstacle you know that's fully protecting you from the dc's.
      Like a barrier, or some of the sort.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yuppie11975 View Post
      It's all in your mind, just know that they won't harrass you, and you're good.
      Why don't they harras you any time? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING IT!
      Because you have this idea in your head that they're going to bug you, THEY DO!
      But, if it still doesn't work, then just create an obstacle you know that's fully protecting you from the dc's.
      Like a barrier, or some of the sort.
      Agree with this. Like dream control, the more you expect it to happen, the more likely it will. It's like subconscious dream control.
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      the same thing has happened to me. i was in a convention center and found the girl i was looking for and started heading off w/ her. all the sudden every dc was chasing me. I started running to the bathroom. i turned around and screamed "FREEZE" and they stopped for a second. i finally lock me and the girl in the broom and the dream faded cuz i was too heated up

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      There's quite a few different things you could do in your situation - imagining an invisible forcefield around you, acting as if nothing can touch you, and even just 'knowing' that people won't be bothering you. If you expect something to happen it will, so don't start thinking about what could go wrong in the dream once you're lucid. Something else that works, really effectively, is telling DCs that they will never have a place in your dreams again if they continue to bother you.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      I don't know about you but I would command them to leave. You gotta put power into your voice and say it with absolute belief. If you say it and believe it in a lucid dream it tends to work.

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