I can control myself, but...

**DannyG13** · 01-04-2012 02:40 PM

Ok, I've begun in the past 6 months to a year having lucid dreams. Being aware I'm dreaming or that the environment around me isn't real.

I'm able to go where I want, fly if I wish, I can even walk into mirrors.

The problem is I can't control a thing about the environment itself. For example, I can't willfully manifest anyone into the dream - the best I can do is see them in a mirror but they're not there otherwise.

I've tried the 'open a door and they'll be there' method but no one ever shows up.

I've also noticed the environment changes without me doing anything. Like I left my bedroom, knowing it wasn't real, and it was a large hotel. I strolled around and saw a group of people, but they changed.

I basically can do what I like, go where I want etc, but I have zero control over the environment.

How do I control who comes in and out of my dream, what room is where, and how can I keep the environment stable?

**Matte87** · 01-04-2012 06:56 PM

You should try visualizing it very strongly once in the dream. By turning a corner you expect something to be there while thinking really hard on it and perhaps using some passive control to make it so. For example if you want a beach to be there, imagine seeing grains of sand flying by or imagine hearing the waves just around the corner. Pretending to fool yourself often works. Dreams are random like that though, I often don't think of the scenery but I have no trouble summoning people. I just shout out loud and expect them to reply: "Yeah?" To keep the enviroment stable remind yourself where you are and interact with it. Touch the walls and focus your sight briefly on furniture or something similar. Good luck!

**Hukif** · 01-05-2012 12:51 AM

If you can control yourself, draw a magic circle to summon someone, after all thats controlling your "energy" and not the enviroment. Make a brush and paint the new place you want, or stuff like that, where you use yourself as the tool to change something.

**DannyG13** · 01-05-2012 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Matte87

You should try visualizing it very strongly once in the dream. By turning a corner you expect something to be there while thinking really hard on it and perhaps using some passive control to make it so. For example if you want a beach to be there, imagine seeing grains of sand flying by or imagine hearing the waves just around the corner. Pretending to fool yourself often works. Dreams are random like that though, I often don't think of the scenery but I have no trouble summoning people. I just shout out loud and expect them to reply: "Yeah?" To keep the enviroment stable remind yourself where you are and interact with it. Touch the walls and focus your sight briefly on furniture or something similar. Good luck!

Kinda tried a few of these but they didn't work. For example, I found myself in the house where I grew up, so I decided to 'make' my old bedroom the way it was when I was there, but it looked totally different when I went in. I've touched walls though, that's really cool!

**DannyG13** · 01-05-2012 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hukif

If you can control yourself, draw a magic circle to summon someone, after all thats controlling your "energy" and not the enviroment. Make a brush and paint the new place you want, or stuff like that, where you use yourself as the tool to change something.

Might be worth a shot. A magic circle. Interesting

**SarcasticIndeed** · 01-07-2012 08:09 PM

Just rememember what your dream is. It's basically you. A presentation of your subsonsciousness and so on, which is esentially only you. By saying I can control me in my dreams, it means you can control everything.

In your dreams, just come to understand that you are everything in them. It's not like things around you are some different plane of existence outside of the reality. All of this is happening in your brain. You are the creator, you are the manipulator. Essentially, you are a god-like creature. If you understand this and believe it, you shouldn't have any problems controlling things in dreams.

Living the human life, we've learned, more or less, how it works. Things don't disappear or appear. They can't change like that. When we are in dreams, it is enough to know that this plane of existence isn't accompanied with the principles of the waking world. So, yes, things can appear and disappear just like that. Accepting this is a step to control.

I believe all the things that we don't manage in our dreams are produced by doubt or uncertanity. If we doubt, even on subconscious level, that something may not work, it most likely ain't gonna work.

The thing is, you just have to believe that in dreams, you can manipulate everything. You are omnipotent! If you trully know this, I believe you'll have no problems manipulating "the environment". You just have to practice.

**DannyG13** · 01-07-2012 11:19 PM

Oh, I know, trust me, I've studied the psychology of dreams for some time so I'm aware of a limited amount about them. After all, even someone who studies them all their life will never fully understand them.

I know that when I see someone in a dream, I am seeing me. That the entire dream is me.

The problem for me is that reality of a dream is not rational, it's not sensical, and you do not exist in a dream by the same rules that we understand constitute reality.

So when you go into a dream, a lucid dream, you're bound by rules which differ. You might know in a waking world that you're God in your dream, but when you're actually in the dream, all sense goes out the window and everything's distorted.

It's hard to remember what you read on a forum when you're actually inside a lucid dream.

But I do appreciate your reply - I've had certain limited success, like I say, in manipulation of the world around me, but it really is not an exact science.