Really need help on lucid flying

Hey, I started trying to have lucid dreams 33 nights ago, and since ive had a total of five. Four of them I tried with all my effort to fly, and each time, I could only get half the height of a tree, and then would simple fall back down, it would be the same result each time. The last two lucid dreams ive had, when I jumped into the sky I ran into power lines which knocked me back down, both times, I kinda get up shrug it off laught at myself and try again, only to once again get half the height of a common tree. Ive even asked dream characters for helped, saw my dad wlaking by in one dream where i was trying to fly, asked him if he could teach me, two action figures appeard in his hand, on of a man, one of a bird, he looked to the sky and said as i leap into the air with confidence, i must transform from the human form, the free spirit of the bird form. So I did try this 'advice' and to no avail it didnt work...can anyone help me ?????

Sometimes you've got to give it more than a try, you've got know you are going to something, that is is possible. Give every sing fiber of your being a push towards the goal; know it acheivable. If you keep this mindset, you're sure to accomplish higher flight in no time :)

Ok thanks, usually i just look up at the sun or the moon, and tell myself man it would be nice to fly there and i try once or twice, give up and move on, next time ill put all my effort into it, and make the whole intention of the dream to be able to fly, im sure i can do it, i remember doing it when i was a very young child, 6ish, i remember having lucid dreams and flying all over, but i was much more imaginitive back then, i think nowadays i just dont believe in myself that i can fly like i did back then...but ill work on it

I often just fall forward and find myself levitating somewhat, and the rest is mental. I find it pretty hard to control flying motions completely, like Peter Pan, I can only execute boosts into certain directions in a gliding form, and to steer or change directions takes a mix of strength, willpower, and accuracy...it's hard to describe, man.

The idea is to 'levitate' more than it is to 'fly'. The Superman image gives everybody the wrong idea. Running starts do not really help.

Pull your legs into a cross-legged yoga sitting posture -- you don't even need to get on the ground first, as you can begin all this while floating. This yoga posture is very effective and efficient.

Also, if you lay down on your back and concentrate on going straight up -- that is the best means for gaining a great deal of altitude very quickly, but is not very good for flying from place to place. Also, the 'laying on one's back and going straight up' method may lead to Astral Projection -- once it seemed that I burst through the earth's atmosphere and was heading into the darkness of outer space when suddenly I noticed I was only a few hundred feet above my house in the night sky.

I have realized that my mind is what is controlling my flying. What I think I do. "Think" about moving forward backward. Use your arms to control your direction. And rememer to let go. It is a dream and you are in control.

Oh, and I had about 3 LD's last night. :mrgreen:

I had my first lucid dream about a week ago (woo hoo!) and I tried to do the whole running start/Superman thing and it didn't work. Then I remembered a post that mentioned that one of the things you can do if you are having trouble is to conjure up a jet pack, so I did. I reached behind me and I felt the jet pack, and I was able to take off!! I had some trouble "steering" and controlling my altitude, but it was still incredible! You might wanna try it next time you LD.

thats kind of odd. it sounds like you got some mental block or something. what about flying upwards slowly? try wishing that nothing gets in your path. Try to really mean it. It might be tough for you now because now, everytime you're expecting something to stop you.

hmz, I allways just kind of invision myself flying, I dont take off or anything, i just "leap in time" straight to the part where I'm flying...
I could try taking off some time though, I think it'd be fun....

try to find a vacuum cleaner and point it in the direction that you want to move.

turn it on full blast if you can and then see what happens. It worked for me

I also used to have a problem with flying. I could always "fly" but not easily and not how I wanted to. I agree with the Levitation technique. It has been much easier for me to control myself when I just sit cross legged in the air. I seem to have more "balance" and can more easily move in the direction I'd like to go. The jetpack idea also seems like a winner, I'm gonna have to try that one. Catch ya on the flip side.

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Originally posted by Lucid83
I have realized that my mind is what is controlling my flying. What I think I do. \"Think\" about moving forward backward.

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- I agree, with Lucid83 - really think and feel the event in your dream body and defy gravity - it takes time & practice, but you'll get it. I also have an affinity with the element of wind. In a dream I conjure the still air around me to feel the wind beneath me in the direction I want to go, kinda like hmmm...like the free spirit of a bird :D . It helps to focus on your center of gravity and to hold it while fying & changing direction - at least for me :wink:

here is what I think......
that this is a dream......
nothing is real!!!
The wind,, the air,,, ur mass!!!
None of it,,, so its just a matter of Beliving that U can do it to that Extent!!!
"There is No SPoon"
-PEace

Try to swing your arms and kick your feet as if though your trying to swim under water (if u know how to swim unerwater)... u will laugh ur ass off when u realize how effective this is.

You have to believe you're going to fly if you want to do it. This morning I had a flying dream and I saw the ocean (well, the river where I live) and then I saw the statue of liberty from a bird's eye view and then I thought to myself, "Let's fly." And then I answered myself and said, "Well, why not?" And then I did. It was very free too, I was zipping around and even turning in mid-air. I was in a great mood when I woke up after that even though the dream was so short. :tongue:

The secret to flying is to throw yourself at the ground and miss.

Seriously though, somebody once suggested using a jet pack. Just imagine having one strapped to your shoulders, and push the button. Shift your weight to steer. This works very well for me.

There was a time period when as soon as I became lucid, I just would take off to the air. It became what always happend, to the point where I had to make myself stay on the ground. I wanted to explore other things.

Tell yourself next lucid dream that you will always go straight up in the air as soon as you become lucid.

Perhaps we should all begin to consider that Flying in a Dream might actually mean something, indicate something, be the result of something. So many of us can fly that we are apparently taking it for granted. Perhaps we flyers have something, possess something, have attained something that the Non-flyers can only aspire to.

On this assumption, let's take a wild guess, and tell these Non-Flyers that they are simply too weighed down by gross material concerns, that they are too worldly, too heavy and too dense to fly.

Instead of refering to technique, maybe we should refer back to their basic design -- who and what they are, or have made themselves. A plane without wings, without engine, and which buckles under its own weight cannot fly, no matter how well it follows the given procedures of flight. So it could be with these non-flyers. They may have to restructure their entire personalities and character before they will be able to get off the ground.

I wish we could do a realistic personality profile to see if we could objectively measure a person's suitability for Dream Flying. Psychologists probably already have enough tests, and what we would have to do is find just the right scale-axis on which to judge a subject's 'aerodynamics', so to speak.

But for now, lets stop giving so much advice. If somebody can't fly, they're a penquin. Its just that simple. Until somebody writes in and says "Before I could not fly, then I did something and now I fly", until then, we should assume that it is something that either a person can do, or can't do, and not something that they can learn, like swimming or riding the bicycle. It might be the Higher Mind's way of telling us we have gone through a certain Initiation, a certain Threshold of Spirituality. It might not be the kind of Test that one can steal the answers to with some New Age Technique.

it is not like one can go to a weekend seminar on how to be a High and Noble Spiritual Being. These earthbound creatures that write in lamenting their inherent lowliness may have more work to do then can be conveyed in some easy "just go for it" advice.

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So... you're saying that flyers are people who have acheived some sort of spiritual enlightenment while non flyers have something wrong with them, and we should not be giving them advice on how to fly because they are undeserving. You must feel very special.

OR maybe anyone can do it with practice and experience. I learned to fly with persistance, not spiritual enlightenment or self analysis. You shouldn't be discouraging people from learning because they might not learn the way you want them to.

The only way I find it would be impossible for someone to fly while lucid, is if they have never seen the idea of flying. For example, if you lived in a cave your entire life, would you ever even suggest the idea of defying gravity? Possibly, but unlikely. And since almost everyone has seen the act of flying in one form or another, they should be able to emulate the experience.

sometimes I can fly, sometimes I can't. Sometimes if I fly too high, the whole earth turns blue. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't see why you're reading into this so much. If you think you can fly, then you can fly anyway you feel comfortable doing.