This is a very, very good idea, Ginsan. It may be very hard to execute, but not impossible, and once you have it in place, it will not go away. |
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I just had this idea to find a lucid dream control chamber. You know, some kind of weird/awesome place where you can control and oversee anything about your dreams. Lucid dreams are like a god-mode of life, but this is the god-mode of that god-mode |
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Last edited by Ginsan; 03-03-2013 at 09:42 AM. Reason: Update (uncateogrised)
This is a very, very good idea, Ginsan. It may be very hard to execute, but not impossible, and once you have it in place, it will not go away. |
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I agree with Sageous. My only problem with it is that it isn't how I would make it, so I would have to think of a place that is personal and makes sense to me. Because that is the easiest form of dream control. Doing what makes sense to you. That is why expectation works. |
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Sounds interesting indeed, might even give it a try at some point, though not soon, working on improving dream control and length first. |
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Thanks Gab, weird it didn't occur to me to post it in dream control |
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Last edited by Sensei; 03-03-2013 at 04:39 PM.
Brandon I'm glad the card holder gave you ideas, summoning monsters is a pretty good one o.0 |
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Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
I control my dreams every night.
Eric in Los Angeles
I googled it and it looks pretty awesome o.0 Cany you also induce non-lucid dreams and fake memories? Because that would be pretty awesome. If you can induce fake memories and non-lucidity plus the setting, plot, etc. You can be a gladiator for a night and realize it was a dream afterwards. You said you were in total control but are you sure you have absolutely no limits at all? Can you do stuff like seeing new colors (how many at a time, how often?), control multiple bodies or even have more than one consciousness and be aware of it.. You seem to be very active and among the top regarding skill so I'm curious |
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Well, I will try to answer all your questions. I can pretty much do anything in a dream. Be anything. Change the environment instantly to whatever I want. If I can think it, it will be so. I can even force myself awake if want to. |
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Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
I control my dreams every night.
Eric in Los Angeles
Really there is no need to induce fake memories. Once you get yourself over the fact that no one is judging you it's quite easy to get into a role playing attitude and just live a complete different life. The key is to just forget about everything and try to believe you are the character you made up. WHy go for non lucids when you can actually live through them consciously during a lucid. |
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This is a neat idea, but I don't think I would use all those screens in mine lol. Cool concept, though. And as people are saying, there are no limits in lucid dreams, aside from those that would necessarily break those of the waking world in the process... like staying in a lucid dream forever. But as far as the dream world is concerned, there's nothing you can't do. |
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Aly... I definitely agree with dutch on this. I have tons of crazy non lucid dreams. I normally have most of my consciousness there and I make decisions based on the fake past and weird situations they put me in. |
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I've had some miraculously real LDs (in fact I had one last night), I'm not saying that LDs aren't amazing. But they're still not the same type of real, at least not to me. No matter what I do, I can never believe that a lucid is really happening to me, no matter how real it feels. That makes all the difference to me when it comes to the "perfect" setting, as I said. I'm not saying that the majority of lucids aren't better than the majority of non-lucids, it's just a difference in what you want out of something. |
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I see. I guess that makes sense. I can respect that POV. |
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Ginsan, |
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Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
I control my dreams every night.
Eric in Los Angeles
Dayum.. The amount of wisdom, insight, expierience and brainfood you guys (and lady ) just offered me is fascinating, overwhelming |
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I was saying that an one does not have truly do something for it to be as realistic, the "fake" sensation or memory can be just as gratifying. Although this applies more to lucids than non-lucids. |
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Not that I don't agree that this seems to be the case with most people, but I actually feel very engaged in a lot of my non-lucids. And a friend of mine actually had to stop taking supplements a while back because he said his non-lucids were being so realistic that he was constantly confusing dream memories with waking ones. This was before he had ever even had a lucid, too. Are your non-lucids really distant or something? |
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Sorry for not replying earlier, I actually wanted to clear this up. |
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No worries. That makes sense to me. I'm not surprised that that's your preference, and I can certainly respect that. But I much prefer immersion to awareness myself, as long as the situation is one worth being immersed in. That is to say, I'd obviously rather be lucid if a dream has otherwise been particularly dull or ordinary. But when it comes to something fulfilling, like living out a fantasy, I prefer immersion so long as awareness is not so low that I'm not even really there. Like I said, in a "perfect" situation. And of course, I would still enjoy such a situation in a lucid as well, and the knowledge that I'm in control of factors even beyond that situation during the lucid do add to the enjoyment, but it's still not quite the same as completely believing that what is happening is real life. In such a situation, I prefer freedom from doubt to freedom from restraint. That's actually why I'll always prefer hallucinogens to lucid dreams - they hit those dopamine receptors and activate a strong euphoria which brings those fantasies to life for me, and then I can become immersed in them without having to worry about whether or not they'll work out the way I want them to. Of course, some people lose control easily on hallucinogens... but they've always pretty much worked out for me. I suppose it just matters who you are, what you want, and how your mind works. |
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in exploring the world of lucid dreaming, steven mentions something similar but using a tv set |
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One word and an article: The Dreamatorium. |
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Yeah Community is pretty funny I'll check out the Dreamatorium |
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