Newbie with a question about environment control

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03-04-2013, 02:45 PM
tuitui

Newbie with a question about environment control

Hi all! Sorry in advance for the long post.

Glad to find this forum. So I've always been a very vivid dreamer, and I've always been able to achieve a certain degree of lucidity... e.g., being able to change a landscape slightly, switch locale, change minor aspects of plot, or do things over again until I like the outcome (specifically in nightmares, that one). Not always, or with any real pattern, but regularly.

I'm not sure the terminology, but I would describe those dreams as semi-lucid... I'm aware enough that I'm dreaming to understand that I have a measure of control, but I still believe the general parameters of what I'm experiencing to be true. As in, OK, I have the ability to put a wall there and be sure the door is locked while I figure out how to fly, but those dudes chasing me are totally real!

Recently I've been having what I think of as fully lucid dreams (although may not be?). The first one was a few weeks ago and I've been having them a couple of times a week since. In these dreams, I am 100% aware that I am dreaming and I am able to decide what I'd like to do and where I'd like to go. I'm not fully in control of all the details, but it's like I get to throw things out there and most of them stick, if that makes sense?

Anyway, so my question! It's like as soon as I become lucid, things become highly unstable. Not only do I need to concentrate really hard on staying lucid, but I also need to concentrate on keeping the environment normal. For example, a few weeks ago I decided to visit my childhood home and walk around. I did, and had a nice time looking at things, but I gravity wouldn't stay constant. My feet kept floating up behind my head. (this was one of the first lucid dreams I had) and I had to mentally force them and other things to adhere to normal physics. A couple of nights ago, I was in a nice park surrounded by what I could tell were meant to be pretty granite buildings, but they kept turning yellow and I had to keep forcing them back to grey.

It's very distracting and I think helps contribute to me losing lucidity... I get so caught up in the details that I forget to check in with the lucidity (which I find I have to do very regularly to keep it up), lose the bigger picture, and slide back into semi-lucid and then ultimately non-lucid dreaming.

I guess just wondering if this sounds familiar to anyone, and if it gets easier, or if I should be studying up on some techniques or something to make the most of this.

Thanks for reading! Sorry it's so long, I haven't read any books yet so I haven't learned any shorthand descriptions.
03-04-2013, 07:28 PM
Scionox

Yo.
Why not just command gravity to become normal, or find a switch to switch it to normal one? :)
Either way you might want to work on dream control, here's tutorial for that: Dream Control Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views . :poof:
If you are worried about stability, you should learn some stabilization techniques, there are some here: Dream Stabilization and Clarity Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views . :zzz:
Good luck!
03-04-2013, 09:39 PM
dutchraptor

You need to work on stability and dream control. Before you start doing anything in a lucid always re-affirm what it means to be dreaming, rehearse the lines " I am fully in control" and "Everything I do takes the same amount of energy" and "The dream is perfectly stable as I stay focused on my goals" etc. With practice you will learn how to stop yourself from becoming distracted and stabilizing the dream will become second nature, keep on trying :)
03-05-2013, 06:19 PM
EricinLA

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Originally Posted by tuitui

Anyway, so my question! It's like as soon as I become lucid, things become highly unstable. Not only do I need to concentrate really hard on staying lucid, but I also need to concentrate on keeping the environment normal. For example, a few weeks ago I decided to visit my childhood home and walk around. I did, and had a nice time looking at things, but I gravity wouldn't stay constant. My feet kept floating up behind my head. (this was one of the first lucid dreams I had) and I had to mentally force them and other things to adhere to normal physics. A couple of nights ago, I was in a nice park surrounded by what I could tell were meant to be pretty granite buildings, but they kept turning yellow and I had to keep forcing them back to grey.

It's very distracting and I think helps contribute to me losing lucidity... I get so caught up in the details that I forget to check in with the lucidity (which I find I have to do very regularly to keep it up), lose the bigger picture, and slide back into semi-lucid and then ultimately non-lucid dreaming.

I guess just wondering if this sounds familiar to anyone, and if it gets easier, or if I should be studying up on some techniques or something to make the most of this

I'm going to go way out on a limb here. I've been doing this a long time and in the beginning I would feel pulled somewhere else. I finally learned to go with the flow and let it take me there. I think it was my subconscious. It wanted me to confront unresolved issues from years past. I would go where it lead me.

I would sometimes watch old events from a 3rd party perspective and other times confront things head on like I should have the first time around. It was kind of like therapy. Eventually after I dealt with all of my issues that I didn't know I had at the time. I gained more serenity and complete control. So I don't feel like I'm being lifted and pulled away anymore.

What do you think?
03-06-2013, 09:54 PM
CanisLucidus

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Originally Posted by tuitui

Anyway, so my question! It's like as soon as I become lucid, things become highly unstable. Not only do I need to concentrate really hard on staying lucid, but I also need to concentrate on keeping the environment normal. For example, a few weeks ago I decided to visit my childhood home and walk around. I did, and had a nice time looking at things, but I gravity wouldn't stay constant. My feet kept floating up behind my head. (this was one of the first lucid dreams I had) and I had to mentally force them and other things to adhere to normal physics. A couple of nights ago, I was in a nice park surrounded by what I could tell were meant to be pretty granite buildings, but they kept turning yellow and I had to keep forcing them back to grey.

This is an interesting challenge. From the highest level, my typical advice on dream control is to go with the flow whenever practically possible.

Now in situations where your feet start floating toward your head, you may have no choice but to take some action, but try focusing your energy in a positive way. Instead of fighting the dream, think instead that, "Ah, I'm now beginning to fly." Or "The dream is taking me someplace that I need to see."

Pretend like it was your idea all along and there's a good chance you can co-opt a tough situation for your own ends. :mwahaha:

It's very similar to EricInLa's advice. And whether the intent of these "malfunctions" is to help you or not, believing that they can and will is IMO great advice.

As for cosmetic stuff like the buildings changing color, try not to worry about this too much. If it happens, it happens. I once had an LD where one of my friends showed up and she was much shorter than in waking life. I ended up blowing the whole rest of the lucid dream trying to stretch her back to the right size, further fouling her up, etc. Don't make the same mistake that I did. If she's two feet too short, it's fine. :chuckle: