Thread: Nifty New Dream Stabilization: Chanting "Om."

That actually sounds pretty awesome, might give it a try next time I have one

me too, this sounds neat. Meditation is all about calmness and clarity of focus after all so it seems only natural that it's methods would be suitable for dream stabilization. Come to think of it when I lose stability I often re-enter the dream in the lotus position, maybe one of my quirks, but i can see the correlation.

Great technique, Alucinor! I will definitely have to try this out. During a lucid, I've often gently muttered to myself things like "I am having a really stable lucid dream", etc. but not anything like this.

This is one of those ideas that's so good that as soon as you read it your only thought is, "Why didn't I think of that?"

Originally Posted by Finnegan

me too, this sounds neat. Meditation is all about calmness and clarity of focus after all so it seems only natural that it's methods would be suitable for dream stabilization. Come to think of it when I lose stability I often re-enter the dream in the lotus position, maybe one of my quirks, but i can see the correlation.

Great observation. I very much agree. The more lucid dreaming that I do, the more I believe that the quiet mindfulness of meditation, the quiet mindfulness of lucid dreaming, and the quiet mindfulness of daily life awareness are all closely linked.

I'm curious about your re-entry into a dream via the lotus position. Do you enter the lotus position when you feel the dream begin to destabilize or is this a true re-entry into a new dream a la DEILD? Either way, sounds cool.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

I'm curious about your re-entry into a dream via the lotus position. Do you enter the lotus position when you feel the dream begin to destabilize or is this a true re-entry into a new dream a la DEILD? Either way, sounds cool.

I'm not to familiar with technique names as I've learned naturally, but I'll tell you what I do; when the lucid dream destabalizes an I'm in that void bardo place between wake and sleep, I still have the ability to control my dream body, and I enter the lotus as I'm suspended in the absence of an environment, then focus on remembering the dream I just had. Often this is enough to recall myself into the dream instead of totally losing it.

The important part is to have a calm connection to a specific spot, like a safe house in the dream, personally in my dreams I live in a an apartment in the upper loft of an art gallery, located in a sprawling city named St. Lions, on an alternate mars populated by dreamers every time the dream fades I start back there cause I know it's safe.

having a calm quiet place gives the dream time to rebuild itself.

I also have a habit of watching my hands while it stabilizes, at first they're doing all sort of weird things, and then when the dream becomes solid they look normal.

I like to pretend I'm reading my palms like there's an book in my hands, another one of my quirks, but it helps as a dream sign since I'm a writer

With a little research, you will find that many groups of people use this sound to meditate to.
When recorded, and annalised, the sound is at the same frequency of the universe ( Fact, not fiction )
The sound calms the mind, and is an aid to relaxing the body.
Put the same frequency through speakers, and toddlers become calm, and often fall asleep.
Mothers of children on here may notice that some home appliances put their kids to sleep. Same vibrational frequency coming from appliance.
Other cultures use the sound to focus their internal power ( Chi )
Lots of other things attributed to this universal sound.

Phil

Originally Posted by TiredPhil

When recorded, and annalised, the sound is at the same frequency of the universe ( Fact, not fiction )
Phil

Ugh, come on man, you're better than this.

Originally Posted by bluremi

Ugh, come on man, you're better than this.

????????

Planet earth gives off a distinct vibration.
Go onto a search engine, and type in
136.1 Hz
The same frequency as Om

Or is there something I missed.

Alucinor, great idea, worth trying it out. After starting to pay more attention to my LDs in the last year, I have noticed I began shouting out loud in my dreams. Usually it's something like " i am dreaming" and " lucidity, lucidity"' to the dismay of DCs around me. I find it really helps stabilize the dream, reminds not to lose awareness, and helps me remember I had an LD. I've also been experimenting having conversations while lucid, trying to extract info from DCs or teach my friends which most likely mere dream puppets, but it was worth a try. I find talking and keeping lucid quite hard, as the words are getting out with great effort. When they get out easily, I slip into regular dreams. Will try to remember to OM next time though, see what happens. By the way have you tried singing in an LD?

Originally Posted by TiredPhil

????????

Planet earth gives off a distinct vibration.
Go onto a search engine, and type in
136.1 Hz
The same frequency as Om

Or is there something I missed.

Yeah 136.1 hz is the frequency of an Om tuning fork.

That's how long it takes a vibration to pass from one end to the other (136.1 times a second). If you increase the size of the tuning fork the pitch (frequency) gets lower because it takes longer for the vibration to travel back and forth.

A tuning fork is less than an inch across.

The earth has a diameter of almost 8000 miles. Even if the earth was a solid lump of a single material, like a tuning fork, there's no way they would resonate at the same frequency because that frequency would approach the speed of light. Sound passes through the densest part of the earth at around 10 miles per second, nowhere near the required 1,088,000 miles per second required for 136.1 hz.

The resonating frequency of a material is determined by the size and density. Each and every major structure within the Earth — such as a mass of rock within a continent, a particular layer of magma, etc. — does have its own resonant frequency for seismic shockwaves, but there is (definitively) no resonant frequency for the Earth as a whole.

Sorry to go all technical here but new age stuff posing as science really grinds my gears.

Sorry, I must have got information from some idiot on TV.
His name is Brian Cox. Probably smacked up on drugs when he made the statement.

Originally Posted by Alucinor XIII

Just thought I'd share this. I randomly thought to try it in a lucid dream last night, and it worked wonderfully.

My dream was feeling kinda foggy. I tried dreamspinning, which doesnt usually work for me, and it sorta helped. But later thigns started to fade. But then, I had the random spark of an idea...

I simply stopped for a moment, and chanted a very long, and incredibly deep "Oooommmmmmm," and the entire dream began to resonate, I could feel an intense vibrating, and the environment sharpened.

Anyway, just thought some of you might like or give it a try. I thought it was pretty cool

i must try this. thanks for the suggestion. its frustrating to lose lucidity so quickly as i do.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Great observation. I very much agree. The more lucid dreaming that I do, the more I believe that the quiet mindfulness of meditation, the quiet mindfulness of lucid dreaming, and the quiet mindfulness of daily life awareness are all closely linked.

yup, i agree

Originally Posted by TiredPhil

With a little research, you will find that many groups of people use this sound to meditate to.
When recorded, and annalised, the sound is at the same frequency of the universe ( Fact, not fiction )
The sound calms the mind, and is an aid to relaxing the body.
Put the same frequency through speakers, and toddlers become calm, and often fall asleep.
Mothers of children on here may notice that some home appliances put their kids to sleep. Same vibrational frequency coming from appliance.
Other cultures use the sound to focus their internal power ( Chi )
Lots of other things attributed to this universal sound.

Phil

interesting

Originally Posted by NyxCC

By the way have you tried singing in an LD?

i will try to sing in a LD. in fact, i will try everything to stabilize it . i just have read a post from a guy who licks the ground to stay lucid. i am all for it !

Originally Posted by VagalTone

i will try to sing in a LD. in fact, i will try everything to stabilize it . i just have read a post from a guy who licks the ground to stay lucid. i am all for it !

Apparently, the licking the ground tactic really works! In his Task of the Year success for the "South America" task, Xanous turned an unstable lucid dream that felt like it was going to end into a long, stable, high-level dream where he got tons of stuff done. And how'd he do it? Basically, by totally making out with the dream.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I start licking the sidewalk that leads from the street. I can feel the rough texture on my tongue. I am a little grossed out at how real it feels but I take this as a good thing. I go for more and I reach both hands out to feel the grass on both sides of the concrete. I grope and rub and feel and really make love to the dream. All of this helps a lot and I didn't even have to buy diner first.

Here's his DJ entry: Angel Falls TOTY - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I actually plan to cycle several of these stabilization techniques (such as DarkMatters' "make out with the dream" idea, Alucinor's great "Om" idea, etc.) over the next few LDs and see what I notice. At the very least, should be a lot of fun! I'll be sure to report back on how "Om" goes for me.

This sounds really cool, I will definitely try thanks for sharing (lol I say that a lot to you).

i tried chanting « om» last night and it was helpful, at least in the beginning of the dream when i usually have some excitement issues.

i didn´t try it to prolong the dream

Tried chanting Ommm but some strange sound came out instead. Didn't notice any effect on the dream from my completely distorted sound. Will try again and hopefully report back.

Thanks for sharing Alucinor! I will definitely try that out

I'm glad you guys are trying this out! Keep me posted. =)