Thread: Awkward when Flying?

Originally posted by AirRick101
I can only fly in a certain fashion, usually having the flight power in my upper body. It's difficult to get my lower body and legs in sync with the flying motions. Like, some parts of my body fly better than others, but of course, my body stays in one piece. It's not easy to explain.

And there is a delay too. My motions come a second or something after thinking about moving in a certain direction. It's so weird...

The most efficient way to levitate and fly is by folding in your legs into a Yoga Lotus Position. This is how the Hindu Yogins Levitate. The Sufis from the Near East do the same thing, but they bring their carpets along with them -- flying carpet style.

I noticed the better efficiency of levitating this way years ago. I was flying 'superman style' (dragging my dick across the sky... most undignified) when suddenly a squadron of Jins flying on magic carpets, in lotus position, came upon me. They literally were able to fly rings around me. The next time I dreamt I decided to try flying that way myself. Wow! What a difference in performance.... like going from kite to a Jet Airplane.

I just flew today in the morning lucidly for the first time.
It felt amazing and worked fine.
One part though is that I couldnt fly higher than the apartment buildings.
Everytime I would jump and fly up as soon as I would reach the top of the buildings gravity would pull me back down.
I also couldn't summon things but I guess its because I didnt believe in it or something.
Like when I would rub my hands together to increase clarity, I wasn't thinking "INCREASE CLARITY", I was thinking "WOW OMG WTF I CAN RUB MY HANDS WEE"

Originally posted by Zoggy
I just flew today in the morning lucidly for the first time.
It felt amazing and worked fine.
One part though is that I couldnt fly higher than the apartment buildings.
Everytime I would jump and fly up as soon as I would reach the top of the buildings gravity would pull me back down.
I also couldn't summon things but I guess its because I didnt believe in it or something.
Like when I would rub my hands together to increase clarity, I wasn't thinking \"INCREASE CLARITY\", I was thinking \"WOW OMG WTF I CAN RUB MY HANDS WEE\"

Regarding Flying, read my post above as to the advantages of levitating from the Lotus Position -- that way of sitting cross-legged that yoga people and meditators often adopt. You will be able to fly higher, faster, better that way.

And about not having Absolute Control. You need to understand that Absolute Dream Control is hype, myth, something that authors made up to sell books, something that the money grubbing Seminar Gurus made up to fascinate the public interest. Go to this site http://www.sawka.com/spiritwatch/tableof.htm and read some scholarly essays about what Lucid Dreaming actually is, and stop perpetuating all of the silly lies that people continue to hold onto even while every night they prove themselves to be false.

That's really cool. But you mean doing a lotus position within the dream? Levitate? Is this some sort of prerequisite to excellent flying skills?

But the magic carpet thing, maybe, it sounds cool. I guess it's the notion of having a vehicle we put more trust in, right? The laws of physics do apply to some extent in dreams.

Originally posted by AirRick101
That's really cool. But you mean doing a lotus position within the dream? Levitate? Is this some sort of prerequisite to excellent flying skills?

But the magic carpet thing, maybe, it sounds cool. I guess it's the notion of having a vehicle we put more trust in, right? The laws of physics do apply to some extent in dreams.

It just seems to be one of those things that one learns through empirical experience. I suppose that what is happening is that 'Spiritually' we are basically our 'bodies' but our animal nature required us to have some extension and so we developed limbs -- arms and legs. Well, when it comes to the Spiritual Skills, such as levitating, these 'extensions' only slow things down and get in the way. So Dream Levitating becomes much more effective if we pull these extensions back into the Body. But all that is intellectual construct that provides a model for explaining the rational behind what we know to be true, that flying is easier from the Lotus folded leg position.

Oh, and you need not get down upon the ground to do it. From a standing position simply fold your legs upward.

The Sufis were a bit modest about people on the ground looking upward at their butts high up in the air, so this is why they established the tradition of using Magic Carpets. It is not that the Carpets are doing the flying. They are used for purposes of personal modesty only.

hahahaha, that's a hilarious reason, at least when compared to my initial assumption.

So I'm guessing that you're hinting a little bit of yoga on the side will help us with control over our dream bodies. I suppose it's logical.

I never saw flying without a vehicle unmodest, we're so used to it in this new generation with the Superhero media and all..

Originally posted by AirRick101
hahahaha, that's a hilarious reason, at least when compared to my initial assumption.

So I'm guessing that you're hinting a little bit of yoga on the side will help us with control over our dream bodies. I suppose it's logical.

I never saw flying without a vehicle unmodest, we're so used to it in this new generation with the Superhero media and all..

Actually, all indications are the other way around, that Dreaming helps with Yoga and Meditation more than Yoga and Meditation help with dreaming.

I once had a dream in which my Yoga Guru approached me with some encouragement and told me that even a few seconds of Meditation in a dream is worth thousands of hours of waking meditation. That makes it quite seem that all of the benefits are on one side.

But, then again, looking back, I suppose I didn't really have very many truly important dreams until I got into my Meditation and Yoga phase.

Sometimes I leap/jump and other times I fly like bird like it really depends on the type of dream. On some occasions I've used the lotus position to get somewhere quick (or get out) or to hover. I just go with the flow of the dream.

eh...i fly the same way. as though only a part of my body is doing the actual flying and the other half is just being dragged. I've never had real success in flying so i've never explored it. controlling the elements satisfies me enough

one day though when i am better at LD i'll better my flying skills

I really havent flied much in my dreams, the few flights ive had were in a dream were I thought I was peter pan and I could fly( LOL!) ... but I only went up a few meters and couldnt fly about, the other one I had rockets on my feet but they burned up in like a second or two and well ive flown on a kind of body board, standing up, and its kinda cool .
Zealeous

Flying! I personally use Wings to fly, and thusly it's not parts of my body, but more regular flight. I can get around just fine with wings, one snap of them and I can shoot in any direction I wish. It's great, plus I love what it feels like just to have wings.

Just my experience though

I flew last night. Just that I had trouble changing directions while flying. Sometimes I fly perfectly, sometimes I cant really control. Ahwell.

I don't think I've ever fully flown in my dreams, as I can recall. However, I've been able to jump really high and float/bounce around like I was in really low gravity. I found it kinda fun and liberating. I really want to try full-blown flying next time I have an LD

Originally posted by Leo Volont

Regarding Flying, read my post above as to the advantages of levitating from the Lotus Position -- that way of sitting cross-legged that yoga people and meditators often adopt. *You will be able to fly higher, faster, better that way.

Im sorry but I desagree with this guy here, because there isn't only one way to fly, actually there are infinite posibillitys of doing anything in anyway. There are no "more efficient" ways to do something, this all depens on you. You can believe him and fly always in the same way and go as fast as you think you can, loosing all the freedom of whats it all about, or you can believe you can do it anyway you want because there is no way you cant go as fast as you want because you are controlling everything.

About adopting a specific position, I think its all about an attitude, a position of the body or manner of carrying oneself that provides you an image of yourself in power, and also knowing what I said above. There is no way you cant go as fast as you want because you are controlling everything.

I have discoverd that this is the first rule of taking all the control you can get in your dreams, because you cant have it all as we have debated alot in this forum is to belive that.

Originally posted by Dagaz


Im sorry but I desagree with this guy here, because there isn't only one way to fly, actually there are infinite posibillitys of doing anything in anyway. There are no \"more efficient\" ways to do something, this all depens on you. You can believe him and fly always in the same way and go as fast as you think you can, loosing all the freedom of whats it all about, or you can believe you can do it anyway you want because there is no way you cant go as fast as you want because you are controlling everything.

About adopting a specific position, I think its all about an attitude, a position of the body or manner of carrying oneself that provides you an image of yourself in power, and also knowing what I said above. There is no way you cant go as fast as you want because you are controlling everything.

I have discoverd that this is the first rule of taking all the control you can get in your dreams, because you cant have it all as we have debated alot in this forum is to belive that.

Okay, what you seem to be doing is expressing an argument from the correllaries to theory of Lucid Dreaming which states that Lucid Dreamers have absolute control just by the power of their imagination. That's the Theory.

But how many times does that Theory have to fall on its face in practice before people will quit quoting it as though it were in any way true. Its not! The Dream World may be a bit more fluid than the Physical World, and Subjective instead of strictly Objective, but it is still Real enough in its own way to have many of its own kind of Limitations, Restrictions, Boundaries, Rules, Laws and that other kind of stuff that we all simply will have to learn to live with.

I know what I know from Experience. Also, I have studied other people's experiences. I will pit Solid Experience against your young extrapolations from Theory any time.

Originally posted by Leo Volont


Okay, what you seem to be doing is expressing an argument from the correllaries to theory of Lucid Dreaming which states that Lucid Dreamers have absolute control just by the power of their imagination. That's the Theory.

But how many times does that Theory have to fall on its face in practice before people will quit quoting it as though it were in any way true. Its not! The Dream World may be a bit more fluid than the Physical World, and Subjective instead of strictly Objective, but it is still Real enough in its own way to have many of its own kind of Limitations, Restrictions, Boundaries, Rules, Laws and that other kind of stuff that we all simply will have to learn to live with.

I know what I know from Experience. Also, I have studied other people's experiences. I will pit Solid Experience against your young extrapolations from Theory any time.

If you go into a lucid dream thinking that you cant do something then you WON'T be able to do it. It is as simple as that.

Originally posted by Dagaz
I have discoverd that this is the first rule of taking all the control you can get in your dreams, because you cant have it all as we have debated alot in this forum is to belive that.

If you read there you can see that im saying "all the control you can get" Im not saying that by using my method of creating an attitude you will have full control, because i believe that full control in a dream isn't possible. I wasn't even talking about that.

I was talking about that there isn't a more efficient way of doing anything, and if there is its a personal thing, and i do believe you can do what you want to do in anyway that you want, if you are aware that you are controlling it, not that you have full power over everything.

You shouldn't go around telling people what position you think is "the best" or perfect for flying or doing anything. People may believe you, and maybe they will go faster, but it doesn't mean that its the better way of doing it. I think they lose their freedom in the dream, isn't freedom what people are looking for by flying? And now they have to use a specific postion because people say it works better.

i found that a good way to fly is to pretend your swimming breast stroke and aim at the air. or an even better way is to jump off somewhere that is higher up than the ground, and swim ur way across the sky

I had my first lucid dream this morning and of course I tried flying. It wasn't awkward, worked just fine, I was fast and everything worked. I flew about 1km high, made some swoops and really enjoyed it. I had some problems flying indoors, though...

Most of my best flight isn't flight at all. I jump.
Initially, I jump and start trying to aim for greater and greater heights. Eventually I find that those heights are limitless. That my weight is directed upwards and gravity becomes relative to how high I want to go.

...Now if only I could do this when I'm lucid...

last night i had my third lucid dream. i had a really intense family drama last night which continued in to my dreams. i gained lucidity but could not escape my overbreaing mother. i could not summon people when i tired or change my surroundings or make her disappear. so i spun around a few times to see if i could focus better and then i just lifted off the ground. it was an incredibly sensation and i just thought of moving and i moved forward. i got outside the house and flew down the street and woke up.

Originally posted by AirRick101
I can only fly in a certain fashion, usually having the flight power in my upper body. *It's difficult to get my lower body and legs in sync with the flying motions. *Like, some parts of my body fly better than others, but of course, my body stays in one piece. *It's not easy to explain. *

And there is a delay too. *My motions come a second or something after thinking about moving in a certain direction. *It's so weird...

I do experience delays to. I'm the oposite of you though my flight power is more in my legs than my upper body . My most often psotion while trying to fly is to just start to jump up, than usally I jump straight up into the sky, but if that doesn't work than I take a run at it But while I'm flying I'm a little off balance but I get the hang of it fast.

In the LD I had last night, I was in a semi-reclined position, like sitting in a recliner. It works well for me.

I'm not sure why but thats the most common thing i hear with flying...most people feel like there legs weigh too much.

I'll have to read up on it.