Thread: The Best Way To Summon???

Thank you - great thread!
I like this remembering method - just expecting things seems inferior to that - while I did have little successes with it.
Like convincing myself, somebody is around a corner or something in a drawer.
Worked - and didn't work, too.
But with a "memory" attached - I am sure, that's more elegant!
With my dry spell up to two days ago - and more "urgent" plans besides - I am still yet to try out your tips for materializing/morphing something in direct view.
I take the liberty to copy paste that over:

Originally Posted by sivason

There may be easier methods than what I am going to explain. They may involve catch phrases like "confidence" or "just believe," but that is never really very helpful.

The first thing you need to do is learn to stop thinking of the visual field in a dream as solid or conforming to even the most basic principles of real life. To do this you start with simply attempting to rend or smudge the visual field. Start with an idea that you are looking at a chalk board. Put your fingers on a table top or wall and watch very closely. Feel as if it is a painting, not real. Now draw your fingers slowly down it and expect the visuals to get mangled and blurred like they would if you did this to a fresh oil painting. As soon as you can do this with your hand, practice doing this to an object simply by moving your hand slowly in front of the object. At this point you are not trying to reshape it, you just want to blur it or warp it. You are convincing your brain that this is just graphics like a painting that is still wet. Now move to doing this simply by visualizing the blurring effect. As soon as you can look at a candle and cause it to blur and melt simply by this method, it is only a short step to what you are after. You cause the object to blur and distort, then you see in your imagination/minds eye the new object form.

Hope that helps!

From here: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-cont...rect-view.html

Objects works best for me. Most of the time it's when the dream gets a little violent. When something or someone is about to attack me, i manage to pull out a sword, or a machine gun or other gun. I just make myself think that i have that object.

I find it easier to summon people than objects. In fact, I don't recall ever summoning objects! However, it's much easier for me to summon celebrities than people I know in real life, I wonder why? Maybe it's because I've watched them over and over again without actually knowing them, so it's easier to picture their faces and their voices without feeling weird. For example, when I try to summon people I know in real life, I feel almost like I'm invading their privacy. Probably makes no sense, but it is what it is!

On the matter of "how?"... I just shout their names until they show up. It might be a little primitive and slightly too demanding, true... however, it works really well, sooo...

I'm able to simply will them into existence.

I've done a couple of successful people summons, never tried objects (is light something you summon?). First time it succeeded I commanded a DC which I wanted to appear, "<name>, BE THERE" pointing to where I wanted <name> to appear (while not quite looking there directly). The second successful DC summon was hand-behind-the-back, which I really liked, "<name>, take my hand," (expecting <name> to be there), and pulled my hand around slowly to in front of me, and there was <name>! My very first attempt in LD #2 was a "expect <name> to be around the corner" which didn't work. It was probably more of a wish than solid belief, however.

Originally Posted by LucasPotter

I find it easier to summon people than objects. In fact, I don't recall ever summoning objects! However, it's much easier for me to summon celebrities than people I know in real life, I wonder why? Maybe it's because I've watched them over and over again without actually knowing them, so it's easier to picture their faces and their voices without feeling weird. For example, when I try to summon people I know in real life, I feel almost like I'm invading their privacy. Probably makes no sense, but it is what it is!

On the matter of "how?"... I just shout their names until they show up. It might be a little primitive and slightly too demanding, true... however, it works really well, sooo...

I get that exact same invasion of privacy feeling!!! Probably because there is a good chance I would summon them just so I could 'invade their privacy'

Originally Posted by sivason

I get that exact same invasion of privacy feeling!!! Probably because there is a good chance I would summon them just so I could 'invade their privacy'

Interesting -- I have only successfully summoned people I have seen in waking life, and either know their name or have made up a nickname for them (in anticipation of dream-invading their privacy ). The time I tried summoning someone I'd never seen (my partner in the competition) by name, I woke up as soon as I put my hand behind my back and called out "Ok, <partner>, time to get down to business!". A real shame, I had a huge competition point-fest all planned out.

I like to yell commands out to the dream, haha. Something I do semi-often is to command the dream to be more vivid. Sometimes I become lucid and realize that colors, shapes, etc are a bit murky and not really solid. Then I just shout out a command like, "DREAM! BE MORE VIVID!" and stomp my foot down. Haha, and that usually works.

You know it's funny: I read the OP and said, "Sure, I could share what I do to summon stuff, no problem." But then I got to thinking... I haven't "summoned" anything in years! I used to do it all the time, but these days it seems that whatever is in the dream is just fine for me -- or, if it is not, I simply leave the dream for another. Oh, wait. Perhaps leaving the dream for another bit is a form of summoning? Could be, I guess.

When I did summon things and people, I did it through a sort of conjuring, with an attitude not unlike your "remembering" something method, Sivason: I would remember some detail or characteristic (if it's a person) about that which I wanted to summon, and then let the memory -- and the object or person -- slowly form before me. Sometimes I would add a wave of my hand, or perhaps slowly turn toward that which I was summoning, but generally it was just a conjuring, using memory as the "magical" fuel.

Funny that I don't do this anymore ... I'll have to look into that...

I love this thread, I have difficulties summoning anything because when I yell too loud it usually wakes me up a little, so all I do is just focus on the desire of the thing or person appearing and that doesn't always work. I've tried making people appear behind a door but without much succes either. I am however getting better at making stuff disappear, the unwanted stuff that pops up every now and again.

Originally Posted by antoinette

I love this thread, I have difficulties summoning anything because when I yell too loud it usually wakes me up a little, so all I do is just focus on the desire of the thing or person appearing and that doesn't always work. I've tried making people appear behind a door but without much succes either. I am however getting better at making stuff disappear, the unwanted stuff that pops up every now and again.

You might try the "behind-the-back" summon I mentioned above. Just pretend that the person you want was already there, reach your hand behind your back and casually say "hey, <name>, take my hand" and bring your hand around to your front imagining they come along....

In the beginning, my desire was so strong that it actually got in my way. I learned early the trick of visualizing during the day. I would imagine a ball of light forming in my hand, then I would throw it at the ground, and in a plume of smoke the person/object would appear and I would usually add their first action or words to the mix. It wasn't long before this happened easily in low level lucid dreams, and it was just a small step to implement it in higher level lucids. These days I try to be less dramatic and more natural about it by creating dream scenes ahead of time, but I found it to be quite reliable overall.

I've only willfully done it once. I wanted to try out the possibility of throwing a fireball but I needed a target so I told myself there was a gator behind me. And lo and behold there was a gator. I was surprised by the fact it was an albino gator, but beggars can't be choosers.

The very first time I got summoning to work took me about 5 dreams. I just wanted to hold a sword in one of my LDs as a goal. I finally had a dream were some people were fighting. I pretended to be confident and yelled over my shoulder to someone I was pretending must be there, "Quick, hand me my sword!" They did! I felt someone press the handle of a sword into my hand. I pulled it forward and sure enough, I was holding a sword.

I sometimes try to imagine the feeling of the object I want to summon, then poof! Huzzah!

I still have to create my new dream-sword! :-)

Before I got the sword thing to work, I came close twice. I found a Tarot card in the 3rd dream and when I examined it, it was the Queen of Swords. In the 4th dream I disarmed a bad guy and was holding his buck knife.

I summon objects by sticking my right hand into my pocket. When I feel the object, I'll pull it out, and it will be fully formed by that time. It is quite a deep pocket, apparently.

I summon people by calling out their name. They will usually turn up next to me.

Summoning DCs is not my strong side, but often simply expecting someone to turn up around the corner works.

A couple of weeks ago I used the "narrative" technique advocated here on DV; I stated calmly, but firmly, "and the next thing that happened was that [name] appeared!"

The result was immediate: first the scene turned into grey mist, and then a quiet, but decisive voice said: "No!"

Having your dreams censored sucks!

I have read it before - and now in here several times - expecting to touch something/be touched outside of view - like Fryingman with people and Sivason with his first sword - I like it.
I guess, a tactile sensation does also stabilize that DC/thing in a way.
Riiight - what I take "home" for now - pretend-remembering and reaching somewhere with my hands.
I always did it only visually and only with expectation.

I will also try vocalizing commands to my "dream-machine" - like vividness, clarity.
This worked for summoning snow - letting it snow on my first snowman mission.
But in the next two dreams I went for that animated snowman again - it was easier.

What I did, was looking in the distance and finding something white - then being convinced that must be snow - flying there - and it was.
Thick snow - complete winter scene.
This vocalizing felt like it took dream-energy off me in some way - while "finding" was just easy and "cost-free".

Originally Posted by StephL

Thank you - great thread!
I like this remembering method - just expecting things seems inferior to that - while I did have little successes with it.
Like convincing myself, somebody is around a corner or something in a drawer.
Worked - and didn't work, too.
But with a "memory" attached - I am sure, that's more elegant!
With my dry spell up to two days ago - and more "urgent" plans besides - I am still yet to try out your tips for materializing/morphing something in direct view.
I take the liberty to copy paste that over:

[insert sivason's method here]

From here: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-cont...rect-view.html

I forgot to mention on the thread this quote was from--I actually tried this technique in an LD a few nights after reading this. Needless to say, it worked like a charm first try. The results were quite interesting as well (I was painting a door on a wall to teleport, and my subconscious ended up helping me by gradually making a very vivid actual door as I drew around the doorframe). Thank you, sivason!
When I'm not using that technique nowadays, I still stick to the old-fashioned, look away, will it to be behind me, look back.

I remember once when the Task of the Month was to play an instrument, and I used mantras to remember the goal in my mind. I found myself lucid in the warm golden glow of a beautiful afternoon, in someone else's house. I remembered my goal to play an instrument, but what could I summon? I decided I'd make the Ocarina of Time and play a tune from Zelda. I look at my hands and think. I reach into my pockets and imagine grabbing on to the Ocarina of Time, expecting it to be in my pocket. I grab it, and pull it out and in my hand is a small pig made of carved golden crystal. As much as I had obviously not summoned the right item, I didn't let it defeat me, I simply held the pig's snout to my mouth and blew through it, making a strange forced sounding whistling noise, like a bad recorder. I played the jungle theme on it and laughed to myself.

My main technique has always been to simply 'grab' for the item out of my vision and know it will be there. I've summoned heaps of things using this like an apple, drinks, 'lucid glasses' to help stabilise, etc etc. I haven't done any summoning in quite a while though!

^^ That's a great story, DarkMerlin, and nice to see you posting again!

Wow Maxis - that sounds great!
I also love piping into a pigs nose - what a cool thread this is!

Originally Posted by StephL

I also love piping into a pigs nose

This just made me think about all the things we write in these forums ... God I hope no one quotes us out of context outside DreamViews. ... I'm afraid of reading my own posts now.