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      Trying to confront a chaser in my dream, then get woken up

      I don't remember much of the dream this morning. Other than a shadowy man appeared and I felt afraid. I felt the urge to run. It was like I knew the man was going to chase me if I were to run. That was when I briefly became lucid in the dream. It first started off with me not consciously aware of the dream. I just knew I was sick and tired of running. I knew if I were to run from this man, I'd just end up running and trying to hide from it in the dream. No matter where I go, it knows where I am. Running only delays it coming to me, not getting rid of the chaser.

      Instead of running, I tried to confront it, the man. In my angry voice I asked the man why he/it was after me. I remember clearly yelling, "What is it you want? Why are you after me?" Then I was sent to nearly being awake. I pressed on, using my thought process and imagination to continue asking the question. I returned to the dream scene. This time asking it "Why am I dreaming this? Why are you chasing me in this dream? What is your reason?"

      The man/it didn't answer. It just laughed at me hysterically. I again got sent to near waking. This time I was unable to go back into the dream scene. I ended up fully awake before falling back asleep.

      Bummer. I feel like I missed out something. I wanted the chaser to give me an explanation. I wanted useful information on my waking life. The man/shadow thing let me down. It wasn't going to tell me anything useful. It was just going to end the dream right there.

      For the next chase dream, whenever it happens, how do I get the antagonist/chaser to tell me useful stuff instead of laughing and them waking me up?

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      Quote Originally Posted by BugFolk View Post
      For the next chase dream, whenever it happens, how do I get the antagonist/chaser to tell me useful stuff instead of laughing and them waking me up?
      That is kind of funny.

      Subjection and antagonism is like one of the most common dream themes. Trying to counter one action will usually just result in another counter reaction, which you then try to resolve as it continues its progression; you've dealt with them trying to chase you and now have the courage to ask why, but now they won't answer. I mean, they can't chase you if you're no longer running from them. That's a pretty obvious solution. Now, how do you make someone talk and give you the truth? I would just disregard any answer they could give as unimportant, because it probably would be, and move onto whatever comes next.

      Edit: It's also fun to match the behaviour and tone of the antagonist. Lose all pride. In my experience, it usually results in a stalemate.
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      You mean to try to chase them shadow figure? That would be interesting. Would it run from me or just turn around and look bored?

      That said, my dad used to chase me in dream scenes. I came to a point I stopped running from him. I forgot what happened. I think he just sort of calmed down and we had a talk, the conversation lost. Or maybe he gave me a hug later. That would be neat to get something like this with the shadow figure/ evil man. I'm getting tired of having dreams of it chasing me, always knowing where I am and overall ruining the dream.

      Maybe I surprised whatever dream mechanics, got some error, kind of like a computer would, and end up with it crashing and have to restart with a new dream. The rest of the dream that followed was disturbing, and seemed more symbolic than anything. It dealt with me trying to do something with mini body parts, like arms, hands, ears, noses. I guess some sort of freakish halloween jewelry. (at least I know what to sculpt out of polymer clay for next Halloween, lol.) The ear piece just kind of got forgotten and left in the back of a school bus. I was trying to make people in the bus aware of it for some reason unknown, especially the bus driver. I guess it was some kind of warning? Or I just needed people to be aware of it, huh? Everyone ignored me. The bus driver just kind of laughed, thought it was amusing and just continued on ignoring me. The tiny ear just sort of decayed and started going rancid, smelling really bad. I was eventually abandoned on the bus with the rotten ear.

      That dream seemed really odd. Real life I am dealing with the feeling of being made fun of or ignored. There are some neighbors/ residents that seem resentful of me, no matter what I do. I bring plants into the community area and they want me to remove them. They aren't really in charge. They just are excessively bossy people. It is one lady in particular I have an issue with. I have no idea how to approach her. It started long ago with different issues. It came to a head with the Halloween decorations. I tried to help them set up the decorations, but I felt unwelcome, so left to help my grandma hand out candy to trick or treaters instead of go to the Halloween party, which I was sure I'd be bored and left out in the cold.

      The story escalated when it came time to take the decorations down. Two days after Halloween and they still made no move to take them down. I found people were already starting to vandalize and take down some of the decorations, so I gathered some help and carefully took down what was left and put them in their respective storage bins. The lady got really angry for me doing this. Why did I do this without their approval? Why didn't I wait until two more days after? She didn't like how I put them in (even though it was all done much neater and more organized than probably were to begin with). They needed to take them all out and do it all over. All because it was not them who did it. Like as if it didn't matter how carefully I did the job, it was just because I was the wrong person who did it.

      That said, the decorations remain in the bins in a public place, well after they said they'd put them away. I'm left again bothered by the eyesore and want to put them away where I know they belong. The building maintenance man told me where they belong and the combination of the lock. I'm wanting to put them away myself and get the job done with, but am holding back because that ONE lady will throw such a big fit if I do.

      I guess this situation and all the emotions must be helping to generate the dream scene. Being laughed at: Feeling this whole thing is stupid, funny. I'm not being taken seriously, and confused how to resolve this in my waking life. Having autism (think high functioning Aspergers) doesn't help much. I've learned to cope and hide a lot of the autism traits over the years. My dreams pick up a lot of the social cues I miss in my waking conscious mind. Also my fear: being talked down to, patronized because of my condition. I hate when people in waking life make me feel like a small child just because of my dx, rather than who I am as a person.
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      Autism = disconnect between mind, communication and emotions. On the extreme end - 1. Inability to recognize emotions in conscious mind. (the emotions get felt, but not handled by the conscious mind.) 2. Inability to express felt emotions to others and to self. Result: Instinctual side takes over. Overwhelmed by emotions = having to cope on a physical fight or flight mechanism.

      Mild end: Disconnect is still there but over time a connection can be made by self awareness. Expressing these emotions to others eventually happens, but mostly through trial and error. Learning this way is less efficient than by instinct, but generates a pretty long memory. Over time I can blend in and identify with others and relate to people emotionally, autistic and non. It's just a much longer process. The positive byproduct from this is having a high degree of self awareness, intuition, and a very useful long term memory and ability to analyze things. Disconnecting mind from emotion can also be useful in some situations. Job wise, it keeps me from reacting in ways I'd like to react, had I been able to express what I felt at the time. (let's just say if someone offended me, the emotions generated from the slight won't happen until later and my awareness of these emotions like a day later. It keeps me from possibly saying some really unkind things, had I not had that delay.)
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      I know this is old, like a year old, but I got to meet the "antagonist" again in a recent dream. I noted it in my dream journal. It was really interesting. I wasn't in the mindset to ask the shadow man anything. It was "Oh brother, there he is staring back at me, will I be stuck running from him for the rest of the "day"?" Then me thinking I got an objective I need to complete, an item I need to find back in my "home", so I can't let this man stop me.

      The shadow figure just sort of stepped into the light, appeared as a human dressed in robes, and he thanked me for not running away from him this time. (his words.) What I found peculiar was when he revealed himself to be a young man dressed in a black robe, he was more sad than anything. Like sad that I was always running from him when all he wanted was for me to stop being afraid and help him on a mission to find his lost friends. At the same time the man seems concerned about me on this, like finding his lost friends is important now for both of us somehow.

      Now I am curious to know if I'll have future chase dreams and how their outcomes will be. I am hoping that future dreams can expand on this dream's plot. It has that storybook quality I really want to see in future lucid or semi lucid dreams. That said this has softened my view on the chaser. Perhaps it isn't evil. (though I probably knew it already, but not realized it.) It also appears I have to accept how lucid dreams work in my mind. For me, so far, it isn't about realizing I am in a dream, but realizing I can make choices in my dreams, even if it might only be a single choice and for only a second. it also seems that dream control right now requires me facing things in my waking life, more than trying to change stuff in the dream itself.

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      Real life parallels were also very similar with bullies and rude people, but this time I both confronted the bullies and acknowledged my anger rather than try to deny, get over, or bottle it in. I'm this time letting the angry thoughts flow through my mind, rather than like in the past trying to block them out of my mind in favor for happier thoughts. I'm getting the feeling perhaps at least one of the dream figures might be a representation of feeling the emotion of anger, but I was ashamed and fearful of letting that emotion be felt. I rather be a nice happy person and not deal with anger, but then at the same point it gets built up and must be released.
      Last edited by BugFolk; 10-09-2016 at 07:17 AM.
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