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      HELP! Always losing lucidity!

      Since starting my dream journal about 3 weeks ago I've had 3 LDs, but these are what you would consider level 1s or even 0s. Everytime I become lucid there is still a part of me that follows the story of the dream, even when I do a reality check. This causes me to lose any lucidity I might have had nearly instantly
      I'll give you guys my latest example. I said to my self out of the blue "This is a dream!". At this time there are two DCs on each side of me. I remember my waking self's instructions and realize I need to try to maintain lucidity. However I look to my DCs and tell them to stop what they're doing because I have to remain lucid. Obviously had I been fully lucid I would have know. That their influences wouldn't have mattered.
      All three LDs I have a problem with interacting with DCs and following the rules of the dream even after I've told myself that it is a dream. How do I break this habit so I can start to roam my dream world with a consciously lucid mind!? Any input is hugely appreciated, thank you guys. And sorry for the long thread ahaha.

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      Long thread? Psh, you know nothing!

      Kidding, kidding. What you have is a common problem, and once you get more experience and practice in, it should disappear on its own. Don't worry about the fact that your LDs weren't long -- you had 3 LDs already, and you've been at it for 3 weeks! That's great progress. Simply keep going, keep practicing, keep learning. The dreams will become longer and more stable as you progress.

      If you want something concrete to do, look up stabilization techniques. They'll help you prevent the dream from falling apart and will help you stay lucid for longer times.
      And once again, don't worry -- you're on the right track.

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      This still happens to me from time to time. It is like a gray area between lucid and nonlucid.
      Try taking some naps during the day. This helps me quite a lot in producing a lucid dream. However, for a few times don't aim towards lucid dreaming. Try to put yourself into a semi-asleep, semi-awake state. Try to keep yourself there, and just pay attention to everything you experience. Don't just ride it like you would a normal nap. Take action to stay aware and focused on the details of the experience.
      This should help to teach the higher levels of your brain to recognize the sleep state. Your subconscious knows that you are dreaming but your higher 'decision making' parts did not hear the message. It just thought the subconscious was simply playing out scenarios again, if that makes sense.

      Some will say these are lucid dreams and others will say they aren't. I don't think it's black and white like that. Especially not after some of the different combinations of brain activity I've experienced. It seems to me that some parts of your brain were lucid, and others were not.
      ---o--- my DCs say I'm dreamy.

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      Hello Nathan!
      As Shabby already said, to maintain lucidity, stabilization techniques are very efficient. Another thing that can be useful is to repeat yourself (out loud but not by screaming, just normally talking) "I am dreaming, I am dreaming, I am dreaming". By saying it several times you gradually understand what it means, what it involves.
      By the way, you can also mention everything the fact you are dreaming involves, like "so nothing here is real, so I can control some things, so IRL I am sleeping...". When I do these tips, it increases my lucidity to a very solid level.

      The problem is that we often forget to use these techniques when we become lucid, but we can manage this lack of memory by practising vizualisation before sleeping : I sometimes imagine myself attaining lucidity (MILD) and I really insist on my sensation of remember I have to stabilize and increase my lucidity.
      This way, when I am in a lucid dream I easily remember to do all of stabilization and increased lucidity stuff because just like it was a choregraphy, I mentally trained myself to learn different steps I had to follow.
      Finally, having a concrete goal/objective to attain in your future LD's in mind is very useful too, because you have something that keeps you focus on the fact you are dreaming.

      Hope it helped!
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      Quote Originally Posted by LuneBleue View Post
      Hello Nathan!
      As Shabby already said, to maintain lucidity, stabilization techniques are very efficient. Another thing that can be useful is to repeat yourself (out loud but not by screaming, just normally talking) "I am dreaming, I am dreaming, I am dreaming". By saying it several times you gradually understand what it means, what it involves.
      By the way, you can also mention everything the fact you are dreaming involves, like "so nothing here is real, so I can control some things, so IRL I am sleeping...". When I do these tips, it increases my lucidity to a very solid level.

      The problem is that we often forget to use these techniques when we become lucid, but we can manage this lack of memory by practising vizualisation before sleeping : I sometimes imagine myself attaining lucidity (MILD) and I really insist on my sensation of remember I have to stabilize and increase my lucidity.
      This way, when I am in a lucid dream I easily remember to do all of stabilization and increased lucidity stuff because just like it was a choregraphy, I mentally trained myself to learn different steps I had to follow.
      Finally, having a concrete goal/objective to attain in your future LD's in mind is very useful too, because you have something that keeps you focus on the fact you are dreaming.

      Hope it helped!
      speaking about stabilization , why in all my ld i want to stabilizate my dreams with hands but i cant put it together like a - with - magnets putting it back one from another, and then i just layed up on my back and its helps but almost out of dreams

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