voices and loud electric noises - how do i get rid of them?!

My history of lucid dreams consists of nightmares that frighten me into waking up.. Like, i TRY to eliminate what it is that bothers me, but the more afraid i am, the more i think about it... and the more it intensifies. I hear voices and electric noises.. pretty scary.. so i have no other choice but to wake up and start over again.

Failing to get rid of these horrors demotivated me into not wanting to try to lucid dream... because those electric noises would come back again..

do you know how i can get rid of them?.. any suggestions could help. thanks. :mrgreen:

Hi RainDrops,

Unfortunately I know of no way to get rid of them since I have not experienced that myself, but like anything scary, like public speaking for example, the more times you face something, or do something, the less scary it becomes. It could be that when you are having these dreams you are just more sensitive to the astral world than you normally would be. This is nothing to be afraid of, as it is there all the time. It's just that you are more sensitive to it when you enter one of your lucid dreams.

Unless you have access to someone you trust who knows hypnosis and could help you in that way, the best way to overcome these scary things is to probably just to face it the best you can with the hope that you will eventually learn how to overcome them. It might help if you visualize yourself facing these things while you meditate and picturing the outcome the way you would like it to be.

I have scary dreams sometimes myself. Just last night I was being chased by some big guys because I called 911 and turned them in for stealing a car. But instead of having trouble running like I used to, I found myself leaping to the top of building like the 6 million dollar man to get away from them. With practice you will learn how to handle these things too.

Be thankful for your ability to dream lucidly. The future belongs to those who are bold. Be one of the bold ones. :D

Did you ever try to confront them? Use dream control to defend yourself? Talk back?
Teleport somewhere outside their range? Cover your ears?

There are thousands of ways of dealing with problems in a LD. Discover them, dont abandon the wonderful ability to LD...

I know that the voices can be unbelievably realistic, yet all they say is BS, they are just a dream.

Oh no, it's electric noises. Everybody get into your bunkers.

Sounds to me like you're afraid of being scared, something I can relate to. If I'm correct, it goes something like this: You become lucid. The first thing on your mind is the noises, and you desperately hope that they won't be here this time. In fact, you're afraid of them, and it is because of that fear that they come. It's not that the noises scare you, it's that you scare yourself into making the noises come, right? (If I'm way off track here, I apologize, but this is something that has been bothering me as well)
So your fear of the noises is the only fear involved here, but that's a good thing! That means there's nothing inherent to your lucid dreams that turns them into nightmares, but that you are the cause of them. So this can be solved in a very simple way: Stop assuming that the dream will become a nightmare, because that's the only thing causing it!

I can give you a few hints on how to, and how not to do it. Don't say to yourself: "Don't think about the noises.". That makes things worse. If I say "Don't think of a black cat.", the very first thing you do is think of a black cat. So, don't desperatly fight them, just assume they aren't there, and they won't be. A positive attitude is a good (and nessecary) thing, because if you think you are going to fail, you conjure up that fear again. And make a list of things to do while lucid, that does not include the noises. I personally always write down three of four things that I want to do in my next lucid dream, and also in the order I want to do them. It helps to take charge of the dream. I wouldn't advise to write down more than three or four items, because you might not remember them all if the list is too long.

Believe me, once this fear is gone, it stays gone. You just need to overcome it once, and then it is beaten. And that isn't as hard as you might think. Good luck and happy dreaming. :)

Hey girl, I too have experienced loud scary voices that have come from people who are familiar to me and have actualy woken me up and left me with a chill, there is a dark lord that chases me , throws me across the room and calls out me name in a deep distorted and evil voice. You can get out of it , if your lucid while it happens then you should know that your dreamin and draw lucidly on your own super hero strengths. All in all babe, alot of it comes down to the films/shows you watch, how active your imagination, stress, worry or even sleepin with the telly on! Dont sweat it they cant hurt you :D [/quote][/list]

Dear Raindrops,

For people to tell you that these Voices and Electical Sounds are not real can hardly help with the problem of your dreams being ruined by them. Within the Frame of Reality posited by your Dreams, they are certainly real enough. And so they must be dealt with as though they are real. Besides, answering the problems of your Dreams with the answer that your Dreams are entirely unreal with no basis in any Subjective, Collective or Cosmic Reality, well, isn't that tantamount to 'throwing away the baby with the bathwater', 'killing the goose that lays the golden egg', 'destroying the villiage in order to save it'.... Nullifying the Importance of Dreams would be worse than the problem such a solution would be meant to solve.

What you need is some Spiritual Protections. Go to a Catholic Religious Goods store and purchase a cheap Saint Benedict Medal. Catholics are mostly poor people and nothing they believe in costs very mush. A small statue of Saint Michael killing the Demon would not hurt either. Dip the Saint Benedict Medal in water and then splash it around the room you sleep in. You might still have Scary Dreams and some Demonic Attacks, but at least you will now go into these Battles with some very powerful Spiritual Allies.

What are electric noises? The sound of electricity?

Hi bzteam,

I would assume that electric noises would be something like the sound of electricity. Although I've never heard these kinds of noises myself the few times I've travelled out of my body, I've heard that some of the other planes have various noises associated with them such as humming sounds, music, etc, which is why I assumed that RainDrops might be close to one of these other planes when entering a lucid dream.

Leo's advice to get some spiritual protection might be a good idea, especially if these things were in any way attacking Rain Drops, but probably more effective than this would be for Rain Drops to build her confidence up and strengthen her mind by meditating on positive affirmation or verses from the Bible, or other source, that would strengthen her mentally. By meditating on verses like Psalms 91:11 "For He shall give his angels charge over thee to keep thee in all thy ways", or the Psalms 23: 4 "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me", a person can strenghen their spirit so that if they encounter these things again they will have the inner strength they need to deal with them.

Much strength to you RainDrops.... :)

I do have to say that I'm pretty sceptical about calling on spiritual protection or God. Not because I do not believe in such things, but because I think it's wrong to run to someone else for help immediatly, and expect them to solve it. It is better to find the resolve to solve a problem in yourself, but asking for guidance (like posting here) is never a mistake.

Reading that, it seems a little vague, so let me make my point a little clearer. I disagree with Leo Volont that you should purchase these medallions and statues and expect them to drive off these dreams. They may work, but you'll be taking the easy path and not gain anything in the process. A far more rewarding experience for you would be to conquer these noises yourself, which will (hopefully) give you a sense of victory and increase your self-knowledge.
I do not claim that all problems should be solved on your own, that you can't have help in the process, or that you are somehow guilty of taking the easy path (I want to make that absolutely clear, I'm not accusing you of anything). I do claim that Leo Volont proposes a solution here that may negate the chance that you learn and gain something, namely self-confidence and self-knowledge.

Phew, did that make any sense at all? I'm generally bad at putting my opinion into words, especially at 1:30 AM. :wink: I also want to say that you shouldn't feel intimidated by the mentioning of planes, demons, or beliefs like these in general. It's not required to have knowledge of these to post here, or anything like that. Heck, I have no idea myself.

One more thing, I really'd like to hear from you! :D I want to know if anything in this thread helped, if I was right in my initial post (it's the ego-thing, you know :P ), and any further developments, so we can continue to help. Your input would help immensily, not to mention I am just plain curious about this!

(Edit: Another thing I do not claim: this thread. I'm not out to make this thread into a discussion of beliefs, just to clear that up. I simply needed to get this off my chest.)

This idea might seem a bit controversial, but hear me out. It is kind of an experiment I'm working on myself.

A few nights ago I had a non-lucid dream, which I felt was changing into a nightmare. Normally when I start feeling uncomfortable in a dream, the final fright moment is just around the corner. But this time I somehow knew what was coming (when I turn around a wolf will leap towards me), so I was prepared. Knowing this I didn't fight it, but I tried to provoke it instead; I expected it to happen and when it did I just let it happen. After I woke up I felt a lot less frightened than usual, and kind of excited.

And now for the experiment
The next time I have a nightmare, I will like it and I will provoke and face whatever I expect to happen. Or even take it a step further: The next time I become lucid, I will be the one to turn it into a nightmare. I will try to look it up and let it frighten me.

Don't think of me as some kind of nutcase. I'm really confident about this.
If you're with me, I would like you to try the following.

The next time you become lucid, don't try not to think about it, but instead expect the noises to be there. Don't ingore them, but look them up. They might be frightening, but they won't surprise you, nor will you be disappointed, because this time you want them to be there. Next step: Provocation. While lucid, immitate the voices, or call them names, whatever works for you. The noises might change their pattern because of this, or perhaps even get louder, but that's okay, because you made them do it. It puts you in the director's seat.

If you can't fight them, join them. Eventually you will become the one who's in control.

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Originally posted by Korittke
Oh no, it's electric noises. Everybody get into your bunkers.

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:lol: For some reason I found that hilarious! :lol:

I've never though of it in that way, Wezel, but I really like your idea! It sounds extremely plausible to me, and I really want to test this myself... Seems you're not going to be the only one to voluntarily turn an LD into a nightmare. Thanks for the idea! :)