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      Question Low Awareness, lucid but not fully

      Hello everyone
      I have a lot of lucid dreams but my problem is that there are many things that I'm unable to do. It seems I am not fully in control. For example once I wanted to eat steak , so I looked into the fridge. There was a steak but it was uncooked. There is always something in my way whatever I ask. I can usually fly or do things that are not related to the environment. But my dream environment is kind of mean to me . I've been stuck in this level for quite a long time so I really didn't know what to do.
      In addition to that sometimes my lucid dreams are too short. Or I know I am dreaming but I am not fully aware (like I think I still need to complete the task that I had before I get lucid, however I use my dream powers to complete that. Or I don't remember my dream goal) and sometimes something covers my eyes and I can't see well.
      I have a certain dream goal right now but these things stop me from achieving it. Does meditating help, and if it does how should I meditate on it? Should it be like a regular meditation or my focus should be on the what I want to see?
      I would really really appreciate your suggestions and experiences with solving simillar issues. I think it is related to dream control, low lucidity and maybe stabilization.
      Thank you for your time.
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      I'm very much in the same position as you as far as my dream control and stabilization skills are considered.

      To float in the air during a dream, I just jump in the air, knowing I will float. I think this knowing is the key to control. Google defines curiosity as, "a strong desire to know or learn something." I think curiosity could help us get to this state of knowing.

      Try to not get too caught up in the end result of a dream control attempt. When we treat dream control as a win/lose situation, we can get anxious or stressed when we lose or think we are going to lose. I figure anxious or stressed people are less curious than those who remain relaxed.

      Make suggestions to the dream rather than demands. Google defines suggestion as "an idea or plan put forward for consideration" and a demand as "an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right." I figure suggestions are less like to make us feel anxious/stressed than demands. If a suggestion is refused, just try to stay relaxed and make another suggestion. Try to not get stressed or anxious. Stay curious.

      I've had success with changing the dream environment by simply making suggestions and seeing what happens. I recall in one dream I was in a building and I just walked around suggesting changes to the floors/ walls ect. to see what happens. I found I had lots of control over the dream so I tried transforming into a dolphin which I often had trouble with and was able to do it easily. I've done the same thing in other dreams and have been able to change the texture of the ground, the weather, my clothes, and other parts of the dream environment.

      Just make suggestions for the dream to consider and see what sticks. Try to stay relaxed and keep it a win/win situation. Try to stay curious until you get that feeling of knowing you experience when doing something you're good at.

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      I think you are right about demanding, it's never worked for me. Suggestion was seems like a very good idea, can't wait to try it!!! I will tell you what happened
      Right now I am trying to shift to using WILD technique which is said to lead to higher lucidity. Curiosity also works very well. When I explore and just remain open my best LDs happen. I hope I soon try suggestion in my first WILD.
      Tell me if any improvement happened!
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      Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
      Google defines curiosity as, "a strong desire to know or learn something." I think curiosity could help us get to this state of knowing.

      Try to not get too caught up in the end result of a dream control attempt. When we treat dream control as a win/lose situation, we can get anxious or stressed when we lose or think we are going to lose. I figure anxious or stressed people are less curious than those who remain relaxed.
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      Just make suggestions for the dream to consider and see what sticks. Try to stay relaxed and keep it a win/win situation. Try to stay curious until you get that feeling of knowing you experience when doing something you're good at.
      Thanks, that sounds like a great approach to dream control and a very fitting concept for me, too. Curiosity is what got me into lucid dreaming and what keeps me coming back to it. While exploring my consciousness I never feel anxious; I'm just too curious to experience what happens (e.g. SP).

      I'll definitely try your suggestion.
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      I had a very good DILD. I think this curiosity thing and also stopping demanding helped me.
      I would add these two things:
      1. self-awareness exercises that I started doing recently.
      2. having a very step to step scenario.
      For example I had little success in changing the scene in one moment. So instead I added some distortions in the air and I used that two enter a code number. then when I entered the code a thing layer of air was shaded darker in front of me. like a thin door. And I entered. At first it was void. And then I started adding things. It was like sketching. It went like my plan. When entering the code and doing those things I tried not to demand or be nervous about the result. Instead I did it with assertiveness and curosity.
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      This is such a good thread, as I feel every dreamer has experienced that feeling of partial lucidity or struggled with control. I love the idea of downgrading demands to suggestions. I've always felt like we have a very unique relationship with our subconscious. In my personal ideology I believe the subconscious governs all that is beyond the conscious mind, and it has messages to be conveyed to the conscious mind. These messages are packaged in dreams for us to experience so it's twofold; there is an overarching message to be conveyed in the dream to us, and we need to be conscious enough to receive it.

      This of course flies in the face of most modern lucid dreaming practices, we practice to control, not just to be passenger. But I've always felt the conscious mind is like the rider and the subconscious is the elephant, the rider believes he is in control because he holds the leads, but in reality the elephant knows he is ultimately the one providing the journey.

      Such is the relationship between the dreamer and the dream. We intend, or encourage the direction, but if there is a message to be conveyed, the mind will prevent the action. This may be connected to a sleeping logic center or just lack of frame in general. But I find when working With my silent mind, rather than feeling like I am struggling Against it. The suggestions tend to be better received.
      "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
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