Originally Posted by Leo
Dear Kastro,
Well, we need to wonder whether this is purely a technique for Dream Control or whether The Higher Dream Mind is trying to emphasize, particularly for your own benefit, that you should make a habit of reaching out to other people.
So let's examine this possibility. In Waking Life do you often rely upon other people, or are you insular and independent?
And then there is the concern for what you are contributing to the Dream. In my dreams I have been experiencing a great deal of team work with the Dream Characters, where the Dream Characters have their distinct talents and make their contributions to the progress of the Dreams, but I have developed an expertise all of my own -- I seem to be the expert at diplomacy, talking, or in particulary tense situation I become the Security Consultant... the soldier... the body guard.
But it was not always this way. Now I am an old man. What I suppose is that over the years I was able to incorporate and integrate some of the more admirable Dream Characters into my own Persona.
In your dreams, where the Dream Characters have nearly all of the Powers, the ultimate goal of your program of Lucid Dreaming should be to integrate the best of your dream characters into your own persona. And that doesn't really require much of a deliberate technique. One only has to work with and admire such Dream Characters and the magnetism of the affinity does the rest... over the years.
One's Dream Persona can change and develop over time. This can be verified by looking into Dream Mirrors, or even shiny plates of glass... glass doors... long glass windows... and see yourself. You might be surprised that it is not a likeness of your Waking Self that is looking back at you from your Reflection.
Anyway, it is a wonderful acknowledgment that Dreams have a Subjective Reality and that the Dream is influenced by the Dream as much or more than it can be by the Individual Dream Persona. Many Lucid Dreamers are entirely solipsistic, supposing that the entire Dream Scence, characters and all, are completely insubstantial, and their own imagination the only factor. Enter your point of view, and now the Dream has all the Power. Good, this should bring some balance to our Philosophy of Lucid Dreaming.
Good Post. We will all have to focus more on Dream Team Work. Besides, it is good for Civilization -- the practice of Cooperation, instead of the more destructive impulses toward independence and freedom.. traits more token of the Barbarian World then of the Civilized.
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i dont rely on anyone. i am the master of my dreams and the dreamworld, dreamobjects and dreamcharachters. if i made a dc charachter do something for me, it would only be because i didnt feel like doing it myself. I am a barbarian - free of all dependence on dream charachters, or as i like to call them, figments of my imagination. I do not find it necesary to rely on anyone in my dreams, tho i often find myself at odds with certain dream characters. I suppose that means my higher mind doesnt want me reaching out to others then?
Even so, there is definitely truth in what u say in that u should try to incorporate all dream characters into your persona, and i find this is a very intelligent way of putting something ive wondered about for a long time. Thou there are dream charachters we find in our waking lives, there are also charcters ive never met before, people who in all probability dont exist... early on, i considered these characters compilation personas, as in a mixture of people i had met in my waking life, but now i believe them to be different parts of my own personality... people that represent one part of me. I find it interesting that these characters are the ones I find most often in dreams... the reoccuring characters, the lead roles, if u will.
Of course there are others who i see frequently in my dreams, my close freinds family members. But in dreams i often find my self at odds with or helping out certain dream charcters that i believe represent parts of myself... these characters are the only DC's that i consider important, while i could care less if another character died in a dream, as they are only my perception of another person in my waking life. But in my dreams i refuse to kil or allow to die those parts of myself, because i feel if i do they may be damaged in real life, something i would not want to happen... I also find myself battling to keep certain sides of me in check, for instance, the carnal, "evil" part of me... the "id" of the freudian psychological system. (thou in my dreams there are more then three of these reoccuring dream characters, so i dont take the freudian system completely to heart) I've often found myself fighting him in my dreams, as if im trying to suppress him or hold him down... id like to hear what u have to say about this leo
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