Originally posted by SKA
thanx I was about to say so myself Leo, it wouldn't hurt to be a little less sceptic and a little more openminded to suggestions of others. You for some reason believe Subliminal messaging isn't very likely to have any effect. and thus you rule out any possibility of there being some truth in this.
You don't know if something works untill you yourself have fully examened it, right? that's what my purpose is with this topic. to find out.
Jeez, Jlick, I'm frigging over 60 years old. I was trying Subliminal Suggestion five minutes after we heard of it from the Russians. What, you thought I was Bullshiting. I'm not being skeptical because I don't know about it but because I DO know about it.
The Russian Military, The American Military and Wall Street... and MYSELF... we all agree that the Advertising and Indoctrination Dollar or Rupal is better spent on ANYTHING but Subliminal Suggestion.
And regarding those remarkable reports we still hear about Subliminal Suggestion being unbeleivably effective. Well, its unbelieveable. We have all heard stories and rumors about how once reputable Scientists have falsified their Data once it was determined that their Grants and Studies depended upon Positive Findings. My, My. What some people will do for a paycheck so they can eat and pay rent. But it is true. Once Personal Interest is involved the data from any study is no longer to be considered reliable.
You see, in the old days most Research was done at the University Level and it was administered by Tenured Full Professors. Tenure means they have a guaranteed job at the top of their pay scale for life. A Tenured Professor is not afraid to turn in negative results and to report that hypothesis and promises fail to work out. But take these very same men and make them responsible for 3 or 4 thousand dollars worth of bills and mortgages each month, and then tell them that they will be entirely cut off unless Subliminal Suggestion is absolutely proven to work absolutely great, and guess what? Oh, Yeah "just look at these data sheets... I filled them out myself... you have my Scientific Word... now where's my Grant for $100,000." But can we believe it?
Once Science partnered up with Capitalism it quite had to give up all of its virtues in order to keep up with all of Capitalism's vices. As every drunken salesmen will tell you, and it is an art now being secretly imparted in every Graduate University Science Program that depends upon the largess of Capitalism, that it is not so important what the Truth is as what they can make people believe.
And look, they made these people believe that Subliminal Suggestion was effective. But we need to ask why their data is so different from everybody who actually tried to use Subliminal Suggestion in Real World Applications.
yes, if you buy a "Lose Weight Now" subliminal tape, you will cut back on food. And if you buy a "Quit Smoking Now" subliminal tape, then you will cut back on cigerettes. But guess what... you could mix the tapes up and they would still work to the same effectiveness. Or you could stick a "Donny and Mary" Tape in the package, or a "Captain and Teneel"... if the person thinks it is some magic Subliminal Tape, then the power of that suggestion alone will make it effective. However, if you play that same hyped up noise in an elevator or a baracks or anywhere where people are unaware that they are being suggested to then Subliminal Suggestion has been found in the field to be unaffective. If people do not know they are being suggested to, or don't know the suggestion or topic, then IT IS SIMPLY JUST SO MUCH NOISE. You see, the mechanism for its success is the Placebo Effect, but the trick with the Placego Effect is that people have to think something of proven effectiveness and potency is being given to them. Unexplained background noise simply does not cut it. But yes, I admit that the Scientists who were paid to find Subliminal Suggestion to be effective found Subliminal Suggestion to be very effective. And they did it before close of business Friday so they would have their entire weekend free to go boating and skiing. If you are going to sell your soul to the devil, you might as well enjoy the proceeds.
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