Thread: Question About Control

Yes it is possible. You could just open the door and go outside. If there is no door you could smash through the wall or fly through the ceiling. If you want to go somewhere that is far away and you think you'll wake up before you make it there you could just go to a door, believe that where you want to go is on the other side, open the door and if it is the place go through. If it isn't the place try again. Or just run really fast until you get there. Anything is possible in a lucid dream which is why I want to have one.

Yea me 2 if any of that stuff is possible. Im just worried that with college and the regular stresses of life, I wont have anyt time, but Im trying

Not everyone has the high level of control described by evil Joe when they first start lucid dreaming. Some people can change their dream scenes easily and other people have to work at it to become proficient.

Originally Posted by Jimmie

Not everyone has the high level of control described by evil Joe when they first start lucid dreaming. Some people can change their dream scenes easily and other people have to work at it to become proficient.
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Oh, right. I forgot to mention that. And even if you do have good control your first lucid dream might not last very long.

Originally Posted by EVIL

Oh, right. I forgot to mention that. And even if you do have good control your first lucid dream might not last very long.
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Well, everything everyone has said is true. I'll just add a few cents worth.

Initially, when exploring your dreams and the world they occur in, I would recommend starting with the scene that has been provided for you. This scene will be symbolically rich and an absolute gold mine of learning, healing and growth for you. Try and steady your mind by breathing and concentrating on what is before you and then really check things out. Try and observe detail as best you can. This is great training for Lucid Dreaming as it really orientates you in the realm. You won't get bored, and when you do, that simply means it is time to explore the next scene... if you're in your house then walk out the door and see what's there.

At this point I should give you a method of exploration not just for environments and scenes but what they represent. It is a dream gestalt method that involves interacting with dream elements. You don't have to wait for an actual character to have a conversation. Each element (house, room, bed, chair &c.) represents something about you. When exploring your dream simply ask an element what it symbolises for you. This is excellent as it re-enforces the fact that you are dreaming and aware of it and it also allows you to interact directly with your "subconscious". Seriously, if you ask a chair what it means and what its message is, it will most likely answer you, succinctly and helpfully.

So you see there is quite a lot to do before needing to change anything. Go with the Tao, it can not be controlled. That isn't to say that some control within the flow of the Tao is possible, it most certainly is, in a BIG way. Just like swimming with the current of a river as opposed to opposing it, working within the flow of your dreams is infinitely easier and more productive. This explorative attitude is very helpful in becoming proficient in the dream world and a consistent Lucid Dreamer, which ultimately opens you to far greater experiences.

After a while of dreaming in this manner your dreams will be longer, brighter and more intrinsic to you. Naturally, as you bring more awareness into your dreaming you will also want more 'time' to do your exploring. When you feel the dream beginning to fade or your awareness slipping, simply spin around on your axis like a child trying to make him/herself dizzy. This technique stabilises dream images and the feeling quite amazingly. After you finish a brief spin you can resume your adventures. You may find yourself in a new environment. Cool. Use your new gestalt method for finding out what this scene has to offer.

My longest Lucid Dream lasted about 1 hour or so in equivalent "real time" and that was due to the use of good spinning- four times! It's like when you masturbate and delay orgasm; it’s kinda hard, but worth it. lol. On my forth spin I decided I would like to meet my spirit guide, and while spinning said so. After I stopped I was in a new scene and my spirit guide was there waiting for me, warmly and full of humour.

So, can you see how changing the scene isn't entirely necessary or productive in the beginning of your Lucid adventures? It's like you have to settle into the realm before you can really operate there, which makes sense I suppose. Once you are settled though, and you feel you have honoured the dream scene you created before becoming lucid, it is entirely possible to change scenes. Spinning is my preferred method as it has a stabilising effect as well, but the door technique described in an earlier post is very good too.

Have a good one!

Rob.