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      Beam control

      I woke up a little confused as always, I was in a school, and it seemed regimented to a point, I wandered the halls a little bit and came across a couple of classes preforming drill exercises (marching) I tried to find my place but everyone said no, your not in our group or no thats my spot, I was still trying to figure things out, its very disorienting...

      Well I walked around a little more and somone saw me and said,

      "Hey your late! the class is waiting!"

      He brought me to a room, but the door led to an outside balcony of sorts, like a roof deck. there was a group of students that looked older than the ones I had previously seen. My memory began to adjust, I started to remember what I was doing there. The guy that brought me to the class introduced me. The studednts were all standing in ranks there was probably about 30 or so of them spread out in even lines.

      "Class, this will be your instructor for Beam Control"

      One of the students a young woman about our age she, looked middle eastern in decent, more like india rather, pretty, dark eyes dark hair, retorted
      "He looks a little young to be our instructor"

      I looked at her and more memory came, "Your a third year class arent you?"
      The girl nodded at me.
      The guy defended me a bit, "Actually Serinanth is working on 150th level theory and application of ki"
      This seemed to lay any doubts to rest for the class, some still looked skeptical, I have no idea what it means but it seemed to impress them.
      I took control of the class, stood in front of them and the once open roof deck turned into a very large cavernous room with pillars supporting a roof that was quite distant.

      "Everyone take your basic stance" The movement to a basic stance is very Tai-chi fluid and powerful, I flowed into a comfortable working position and began, I spoke as I built up my power.
      The class followed some fluidly others awkwardly

      "Take all that you are and focus. Your emotions, love, hate, fear, compassion, joy, all that you have EXPERIENCED, take it all, ALL of it,"

      I brought my hands back and to my side and poured all of my life into the space between my hands I could feel a slight wind pick up around me and could feel the energy even though I could not see it,
      I am nearly blind to it for some reason all it looks like to me is what looks like heat waves...

      I continued without stopping "the breath of wind on your skin, the warmth of light, the cold of a winters gound on your feet, the pain of wounds long past the ecstasy of a moment with your lover,

      ALL of it this is what make us BE, our experience is what sets us apart, what makes us alive, this very life force, take it and pour it into a sphere.

      You can create diferent densiteis of energy, but it will begin to take on mass, you must remain in control of it"
      The class had stopped copying me and was just staring I heard a whisper,

      "is that a real energy ball?"

      I looked to my hands seeing a faint swirl of air but nothing more, I could feel it though, the buzz in my fingers the weight of it in my hands.
      "All of your experrience and..."
      At this point I had a ball about the size of a baskeball and I palmed it on one hand and heaved it like an olimpiad throwing the shotput, I aimed for one of the colums about 150 yards off I didnt see it while it went through the air, but it sure did do something when it hit the pillar. A small explosion erupted, the pillars are made of way to strong material and it didnt crumble, but the small explosion did char it and sent a small shockwave back at us. The students looked at me baffled, I was shocked to shit myself, it felt too real, like this place I am writing this down in I didnt think anything was going to happen, I thought I was going to see a beam of light like in the cartoons or the ball would be a bright color well

      I guess reality is different lol if you want to call it that. Well the shock of the whole thing woke me up for a little while, but when I fell back asleep I was back there with the class, the guy that introduced me was like "where the hell did you just go?!"

      And then I realised...

      "For some of you this is your primary reality, for me, this is just a dream so to speak."
      One of the students quipped in, "So your telling us your just a dream and you are able to do what you just did?"

      I nodded

      Another said "how can one so young do what you can?"

      I replied, "looks can be deceiving, I am alot older than you think."

      The cavernous room changed back to the roofdeck.

      "Shall we continue?" I asked

      Now, some of you in time will be able to impart elemental properties to your energies, Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Even Light and Dark, I preferre Light myself. If you wish to create a beam, you must in a sense pop the energy ball in a controled manner so that the contents are forced out in a driectionalised ray, this is dangerous as you are unleashing the energy in close proximity to yourself, you must shield yourself in order to do this without harm.

      Also for every action there is a reaction, so there will be a kickback from popping the energy ball in the reverse direction that you are opening it. Depending on how much energy you are working with you will have to from the least make sure your footting is solid so you dont get knocked on your butt or create a wall of air to coushin your back"
      I seemed to have their attention.
      "Now some of you will one day create an energy ball of sufficinet mass and have the power to break a sertain critical point, where the mass of your energy shpere will begin to collapse in on itself"
      some looked a disbeleiving, one commented, "a black hole?"
      I nodded,
      "In a manner of speaking, its not like the large ones that suck down entire solar systems... its a small localised singularity, if you EVER manage to create such a thing, if you do not have control of it, you will be sucked into the very mass you created, many of you will not be able to break that critical point, which is a good thing, we dont need random singularities popping out of nowhere sucking in the local area."

      I looked up

      "Map overlay, 300 mile radius, include geographic and political points, as well as population, sentient and fauna."

      A map appeared in front of me and I called the guy that introduced me over and pointed to the holographic map as I spoke it was 3D showing elevation and had differnt colors representing cities and such and terrain types, "so to the east here is a minor city, a hamlet here, and a dense forest here", "the mountains here are uninhabited" the guy commented, "and the plains surrounding them are sparsly populated by fauna only, it dosent seem there are any scouting parties in the area either."

      "Ok then" I will aerial burst here a 1 mile up, nothing should come into harms way" I looked to the class, "Now you must consider the curvature of the earth when dealing with a distance such as this, its only about 200 miles but its far enough that it would make a difference where you want to target, so you must guide the beam, there are other methods which I will show you as well."

      I diverted a fraction of my energy into creating Guide rings, "These rings (there were 3 each a different size and distance from me, the farthest ring was about 40 feet away) will guide the beam much like the magnetic coils in a TV guide electrons to the screen

      I started building up power again, but surpassed the pervious point I had, I poured more and more energy into a softball sized sphere,

      And then It happened, that critical point broke and it bagan to suck in energy on its own, there was a breif inrush of light and then air but I put up shielding that kept it in control and steady, this time I COULD see it see the energy, it was bright white, I continued for a bit and then... Its like blowing up a baloon and then letting the end open but holding the baloon and squashing it, air comes rushing out, but in my case a very large beam of energy and a bit of a singularity's mass, it shot out over the horizon through the guide rings,

      I spoke again, "The easiest way to hit your mark is to make the beam somewhat smart, you can have it home in on a certain bio rhythm or energy frequency, or even, if you can plot them in your head and keep that plot untill the beam reaches its destination.. Coordinates on a map..."

      The beam had vanished over the horizon, it was quiet for a moment and then there was a flash of light off in the distance it was bright as hell, it receeded a moment later followed by a rush of warm air and a rumbling sound. I looked at the class, they all semed sobered by the demonstration, "With training, control and focus you may acheive such results, this is only a demonstration, nothing was harmed by what I have done, if you ever use your ki as a weapon you had better be ready to face the concequences" I didnt let it show but what I just did took alot out of me...

      I walked out of the simulator room, what I had done was real, but the environment was in a self contained mini universe there was no one in the cities or no animals in the forests, it was used as a kind of shooting range. Its weird how memory comes back the longer you are in a place.
      I went on my business at the school, helping people out guiding first years, I slept one night that I remember, and it started to get a little fuzzy but I do remember in particular.

      There was a minor class, of small children and they put on a play about the Dragon wars, between the chromatic and metallic dragons, I remember watching it, it was the funniest thing, these little kids in dragon costumes going over what should be remembered. I was sitting in the auditorium when one child came out on stage wearing a platinum colored dragon costume, and a small voice yelled, "I am Bahamut!" and I giggled, a friend said what what is it, I chuckled, "the even got it to look kinda like me" My friend was like what? I just laughed quietly and held out my hand and let it turn platinum in color and then back to flesh, she just shook her head and said just watch the play.
      Alot more happened, but Its fuzzy I do reember looking out the doors and it was snowing, and I was like What the hell?! its august?! somethings not right, or what first year kid did this!?

      *shrugs* dont ask... I just dream the stuff

      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      Wow dude, that's nuts. Sounds like your own little Final Fantasy world in your dreams. Hah, sorry, that's just what it reminds me of, especially with the Bahamut reference at the end.

      Very entertaining, for sure. I wonder what it all means...

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      Arcane magic, yes!!!

      awesome

      I think you can do it. I think you have been shown how to focus your Ki, and that you should now experiment with crossing it over into your waking world.

      Do it like a trigger perhaps. Start lucid dreaming. Go though your same moves that you showed the class. Now the tricky part. After you know you can do it successfully dreaming, you can do it and then wake-up, dream till your holding your ball, wake-up and maintain your focus. If you can wak, and refocus, you can do it. It just takes a certain type to perform such a meditatively complex (yet ironically empty and stress free) state. I seriously think you can do it.

      I would recommend doing it while awake before bed, too. Get used to it, just expect that if you will it, it can happen.

      Once you can do this, you will truly be onto something and may get to teach that class you're dreaming of.

      If nothing else you should meditate on it and take some DMT. hehehe, just a thought.
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      Thought about DMT.. I duno though..

      I do practice and focus before bed alot, I start to see weird artifacts of light if I do it long enough and keep my focus, but I duno if its becaue my eyes are getting wiggity kuz im focusing so hard or if they are there, I usualy do it alone. Me and a friend played around with fields one day, there was definatly something there... and then I decided to dump more energy into it.. didnt say anything didnt move or anything and my friend was like dude... whoa... ease down, thats too much.

      The line between reality is blurry for me these days so perhaps I will get it right sooner or later

      remember...

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined....
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      someone found this useful, it was in lucid experienced but thought it might be of more use in dream control
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      Thats remarkable. Your dream gives me a little bit more insight of events within my LD's usually before I create my Energy Wave I feel the sudden rush of Air also and its always like a huge Shockwave that knocks down everything im facing. then after that I feel rushing energy but it looks like Green Electricity that just jolts back and fourth around me mainly around my forearms and hands. But like I mentioned earlier Once I try to release it, it just turns into another shockwave and I know the Force is there but I just never see my Beam of Light. Maybe I'll get better results by applying what you've discussed in the other Thread. I think its very impressive with the amount of control you have over Ki thats the level Im pushing for. By the way thats a KICK ASS Dream!! I've learned some very important things here that Im definately going to apply this is great Material Seri.

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      Thanks I am just glad sharing my experiences seems to help people out

      Oh! hmm I will say this..

      About the green energy...

      *looks around*

      I duno if I was trippin or what, I was alone so I havent a clue probably just trippin. I said to myself, well I am on shrooms, I have no excuse I should be able to see what I want

      I ate some shrooms, just a few to get that nice high, normaly I do NOT hallucinate...
      I sat outside, bourght up my energy level like I do in dream, I use visualisation of a giant Audio board, like the ones in a studio,
      It is lined with switches and slider bars,
      Main power, fuses and overide,
      Start on the left, flip the switch bring up the slider, in counts from 1-10

      I got up to 20 that night, the farthest I have ever gone without loosing track at this time my fingernails were glowing softly and little green ligtningbolts were emanating from my fingertips, the ball formed, like heatwaves in a sphere, and then the surface began to become wireframed, like a 3D model, the wireframe bent and swirled taking on a more solid look, I could see the glow around me... something I never seen before, I figured my imagination was kicked up enough for me to make it exist in enough detail

      But the light was mostly green..

      SO I held the ball I could feel it, but I was tired.. it took alot out of me and I slowly brought my energy level back down.

      I went inside, my throat was dry, I drank some water and sat down in front of the tv, watch some TriGun, (that got a little too fucked up for me to watch...)
      But I noticed something I looked down, and my hands were smoking.

      yeh... I know... im nukingfuts and was just on shrooms =)
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      Seri,

      I put it all into order during sleep yesterday. I took your material and applied during my LD. As I entered my World I found myself in a huge metropolitan city. It was a mostly cloudy day perhaps high afternoon with people going about there everyday business. So I Looked around and Decided im going to respect these people and not intrude on whats going on here. So I Took Flight shot up straight into the air and Flew until I was over a large body of water. I stopped there and Hovered about maybe 10,000 feet above the large body of water. I thought about applying everything you've mentioned. I started to concentrate my energy but failed to do so because I broke my concentration of my levitation. I felt myself starting to descend I decided to fly up higher maybe another few thousand feet. And from there I started to concentrate my energy. I put my hands down to my sides palms faced outward and begin to Power up. I figured since I was out in the middle of nowhere than I could try to maximize this. I didn't hold back (maybe this was a mistake) As I felt my energy grow, Lighting bolts of green electricity started to intensify as they continued to jolt back and fourth around my arms and Hands it seemed to spread itself outward also the more I powered up the more the electricity started to grow bigger and shoot outward. I could feel the energy rushing within my palms as the two balls started to swirl and take shape Then I noticed it was getting darker like Nightfall but I figured this usually happens in my dreams where day turns into night in an instant but this wasn't the case. The clouds above me were swirling in a circular motion above my head It was amazing to see but before I new it my hands felt extremely heavy and I looked down because this green light was started to affect my vision because the intensity was much brighter. I couldn't even see my hands the balls were enormus in size and It startled me so I dropped them. they fell down into the ocean and caused the biggest Torquiose looking wave that I've ever seen. It must have shot up 100's of feet into the air. and I could sense the planet shaking around me The clouds opened up to shear darkeness there were no stars in the sky just a dark void and it was blanketing the planet and that was scary because I tried to switch the dream setting and I couldn't for the first time As this dark void started getting closer and it seems to suck everything in its path I couldn't do anything else but Dash out in flight Considering I was already in mid air I could Dash out with greater ease. I was flying much fast but not as fast as my previous LD's maybe because I felt fatigued from those energy balls. I felt the wind of the void begin to pull me and my speed was decreasing I felt like I was swimming in water with no effort in moving forward I decided to flip on my back as I continued soaring through the air and I figured I'll shoot an energy beam at this void I put my hands out in front of me and immediately the green electricity started to form around me once again. I couldn't concentrate thourghly enough to launch the beam I just shot out a shockwave and the void consumed the energy from the Shockwave. I saw it coming closer and closer and I just figured Im not going to deal with it and I tried to wake my self up and failed so many times. Finally I did and I woke up feeling like I ran a Marathon. Im not sure If I wanna work on this beam technique again for a while because that kinda startled me.

      Seri do you have any clue why this Void was perhaps chasing me or where did it come from?

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      Wow, that sounds scary. I want to try that out, but I'm still a Novice at Lucid dreaming. Would you recommend me to try it out?

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      Sorry, if it sounds noobish to you, but what can you do with this beam/ball of energy? I mean is it to fight off a demon, or land a nuke somewhere?
      And why it is created as a ball?

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      Originally posted by Ev
      Sorry, if it sounds noobish to you, but what can you do with this beam/ball of energy? I mean is it to fight off a demon, or land a nuke somewhere?
      And why it is created as a ball?

      Ev with the correct amount of energy you are virtually unstoppable in your dream. Yeah use it as you wish especially to fight demonic beings in your dream. I never had to use it on anything unatural the furthest I've accomplished was always a huge shock wave. and the force from the energy build up knocked serval people in my dream back a few 100 feet. Thats the reason I decided to test it out over open area where no one can be harmed. I guess im inbetween what I think is real or not. I do have respect over these so called dream characters unless they rubb me the wrong way. And I really have no idea why it always form the shap of a ball but Serinanth would definately know. It just always starts off in swirling motion then instantly a ball of appears. Thats a good question Ev.

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      wow, that's kinda like a jedi powers then?

      I recall a dream in which some guy lures me into the darkness by

      promises of great power. As I move further, i feel something most

      unnatural. I turn back and see the demoness and that guy jump on me.

      I think i went lucid, cause i thought something like 'STOP!!! It shouldnt be

      like that... Demons stopped... I had a second to decide and i couldnt think

      of

      anything else exept for launching a freaking huge and powerful lightning

      bolts into them... Power just jumped out of my palms and hit them...

      It destroyed them, i mean nothing could have survived

      that, but my dream collapsed as well...

      I found myself in my bed, but it was definitely more pleasant then facing

      this creatures...

      Do you think it's some kind of beam control?

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      Like I said.. start small

      A sphere is inherently stable it is even on all sides, making a cube of energy would be tricky also the corners would radiate energy, which is inneficient. This happens because the corners are like hotspots, and you have a single point and it becomes unstable and energy is emitted from it... well that didnt explain it too well..

      hmm.. ok it is the same as electricity, if you electrostatically charge a metal cube the corners will send off little sparks, now if you have a sphere, you can build up a much larger charge untill it starts to emit energy from random places... Tesla coils and such

      As for us we are using will to keep the energy in one spot, it happens inherently, and you create a sphere.

      Did you notice it more difficult to create a sphere using only one hand? I find its harder to stabilise the field, it can be done its just a little more energy having to go into keeping the thing stable and not the energy within the sphere.

      The void, in my mind there are two things it could be and I will only speak one, for good reasons, so dont ask ok?

      You managed to input enough power... and you were focusing on making those energy sheres as big as you possibly could, you released them and your control over them, the energy spheres tried to continue the last instruction and in turn started to rip apart your dream world sucking in all of its energy. You mentioned they felt heavy so they had already begun taking on mass. Like I said in my dream, if you dont shield it, you can make a mini black hole.

      Nightowl

      New at lucid dreaming or not, of course you can try it out. But like I have said before start small. You need to experiment find out what works for you, though having good dream controll and stability does help.

      Ev

      Working on focusing your will is extremely usefull, not only just for making energy beams and sheres, it will help you do other things in the dream world as well, and even here in this world.

      I use the destructive energy to fight of the dark things that seem to find me, I have actually gotten to the point where I do not damage anything around me except the thing threatening me or those i love. Wasting all that energy on making a big crater, is just that... a waste.

      And yes it is exactly like Jedi powers, The force is just that... Will.

      As for what hapened to you, I would say what happened was an instinctual outlash of power, not much controll but it sure does work well =) it means you have potential though! Experiment and work with energy in your dreams, its fun but remember though start small!
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      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      ... wow. your the cooolest.

      you could see me reaching, so why couldn’t you have met me half way?
      You could see me bleeding, And you would not put pressure on the wound[/b]

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      Bout time people are realizing this =)
      hehe

      I prefer Froody though
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      This post was i think the first one i read when i came to the dreamviews forum, and it is still on of the most fascinating ones i have ever seen here. Next time i have a lucid dream i have decided to try and use the stuff you talk about here! It sounds like it would be really cool to do use these techniques!
      I was wondering though, in the first post in this topic you put up a sheild so that the ball wouldn't suck up stuff. how do you do that? do you just try to imagine one around it or what?
      These are the tears that I dream about...

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      Aphius I just wanted to say cool New Avatar. Im still learning the laws of utilizing Beam Control also. So I haven't done the shield thing yet to this point. Seri, is the Beam Instructor with the most experience Im sure he could definately answer that question.

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      Creation is an act of sheer will

      Its like the controll rings, its basically will taken form.

      Its a field that binds the energy inside, well actually keeping the outside from being sucekd in.
      You need to keep a balance of the ki you are putting into controlling and the ki you are focusing. If the energy you are trying to focus becomes more powerfull than the energy controlling it you get a backfire I guess you could call it

      Again spherical in nature becuase that is the strongest form

      Its weird... You feel the strain, its like well you feel the singularities force, its trying to draw energy in and YOU are the only thing stopping it from doing so. So it feels like its trying to draw you in.. Dont worry about that for now though im the only freak that takes this stuff too damned real. I make it more complicated than it should be hehe. Its kinda neat when it happens though.
      "A knight is sworn to valor.
      His heart knows only virtue.
      His blade defends the helpless.
      His might upholds the weak.
      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

      Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined

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      Serinanth, how would you advise someone...*me*...to start learning beam control?


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      Its not a breeze cause it blows hard, yes and it wants me to discard the humanity I know, watch the warmth blow away.[/b]
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      Wow that is quite complicated. Im still trying to work out my begining stages, but Im definately going to make a mental not of that new information you just mentioned. I don't wanna make anymore mistakes.

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      Originally posted by Serinanth
      Dont worry about that for now though im the only freak that takes this stuff too damned real. I make it more complicated than it should be hehe. Its kinda neat when it happens though.
      Hey, i like it when you talk about the dream world like an alternate reality/other place etc. It would definately make it a more interesting experience if it was not all in ones head. I can't really say if i believe that it is just in the persons head or if it is an alternate reality or anything, because i haven't had that many lucid dreams and haven't been able to make up my mind yet.

      Anyway, thanks for the info and i'll get started on my beam control ASAP.
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      Well for me it is real, I take now as real, if I am in a dream its real becuase it is now.

      I started out with a foundation of science...
      Then I had some things happen to me that kinda drew me to this side of the argument, Spirit...

      Its real and it exists, as a scientist I cannot deny the reality that I experience whilst I sleep, however, I cannot prove to others that it is real.

      But it works for me...

      I find the more complex I think about something the more real it becomes, for instance my theories and application of beam control, its not just some cartoon powerup and blast the bad guy thing to me, its a complicated process that takes alot fo will and concentration.

      Its cool that you guys are actually trying to apply my theories to your own experiences, =) I hope it works for you, as it did me!
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      WOW, ok so i'm a little late reading and replying to this post but I just have to say something...that was way to incredible of a dream, Seri, to not say anything. I've experimented with energies in my dreams before but haven't really gotten past telekenesis, but what really intrigued me was the part where you woke up and came back to the class to say that this may be the primary existance for these people but only a dream to you. That really makes me wonder if you really WERE somewhere else, some other world or plane of existence teaching real "people". Maybe you were drafted or pulled there by someone or some force, maybe you stumbled in through the back door, or maybe you just unkowingly answered a call for help... but one way or another from your accounts of the dream it really gives off the feeling that these "students" in your dream were real entities. Have you tried to contact them again through your dreams? Do/did they seem real to you?

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      Well to me I WAS some place else so it makes sense right? =D I have been working on that skill as well because I used to wake from dreams, usualy at some critical point, I would get too excited and loose the dream. I felt as if I was abandoning the people there especially if they were in danger, I could help them and then suddenly I was gone, so it bugged me. I worked on it a little, I even had a notable Grey Wizard show give me some tips, though I messed up the time part in that case . Anywhoo... I havent been back to the school, but the training room is still vivid in my memory, as was the lesson and this is quite some time later. I think I will try to get back there, I need to brush up on my dreaming anyways, I have been gone for too long and have been neglecting my journal... To answer your question if they seemed real, the answer is not they did not seem real to me, they were and are real, and no offense but more real than you at this point in time Your just a voice right now, they were of substance. I said it before but I am gona get my ass in gear this time and make a beam controll tutorial, I now have at my command a way to show you people too, I just need to learn more, and I promise you all I will show you the things you can do in dream.
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      His word speaks only truth.
      His wrath undoes the wicked."

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