Thread: Imagination?

Dream control really doesn't depend on Imagination, It depends if you believe you can

So if I believe something in a lucid dream, it's possible?

Originally Posted by Arachanox

So if I believe something in a lucid dream, it's possible?
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Definitely! You will have one tonite or very soon, if you think it is possible. Please come back and tell us about your lucid dream--because all it takes to do it is knowing that it exists. Now that you know, you will be lucid for sure.

Simple answer: Yes

More complex answer.... Well, thats complex.. lol

You see, dreams are controlled by conceptual thought. Simply put all a dream is, is you thinking of things happening and being presented with whats assosiated with that concept. Sorta like thinking of a boat and seeing a boat plus water etc.

So, if you can imagine something better, it will have more links and be presented better.

Blah, Merlock never did that conceptual thought tut.... I guess that leaves me to do it...

I know that if I was unable to imagine what it is I want to do in my dreams then I doubt I would be able to do it - since I beleive a LD is dependent on you being able to mentally picture yourself doing something...afterall...thats all any dream is: a mental picture.

However simply by wanting to do something your mind starts putting images together whether you are aware of it or not, you'll find that the more you want to do something the more you think about that something and the more prepared your mind becomes for when you finally manage to display your LD abilities.

In other words - believing is imagining. Therefore LDs should be dependent on your willpower if anything.

...at least thats the way I see it.

arby, your avatar is crazy .

Imagination has something to do with dream control, to a small extent. For example if you need to imagine someone appear in order to get control of your dream, then it would be beneficial to have good imagination.

But also remember that you are naturally more creative in your dreams...

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Definitely! You will have one tonite or very soon, if you think it is possible. Please come back and tell us about your lucid dream--because all it takes to do it is knowing that it exists. Now that you know, you will be lucid for sure.
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But how does one persuade themselves to "know" they will have a lucid dreams. I've been able to have them that way just by believing like you said, but 75% of the time it doesn't work, and then my high hopes are shattered, maybe because I didn't believe enough. Is there a way to make yourself believe and actually make LD's happen short of hypnosis?

I know ever since I practiced visual thinking my dreams were much more vivider the indivisual dream lasted alot longer, instead of having 10 dreams in one night all small I had like 3 all very long dreams, and yeah there were times were I was thinking very clearly like I was lucid but not exactly, ofcoure I wasn't trying that much so I didn't get lucid as much as if I had wanted to.

Originally Posted by DreamerDavious

But how does one persuade themselves to "know" they will have a lucid dreams. I've been able to have them that way just by believing like you said, but 75% of the time it doesn't work, and then my high hopes are shattered, maybe because I didn't believe enough. Is there a way to make yourself believe and actually make LD's happen short of hypnosis?
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You get good at it after awhile, it's not really a rational thing, you just beleive it and refuse to doubt it, just say "I WILL have a lucid dream, and I WILL remember it" focus on it for a few moments, then clear your head and fall asleep, even if you happen to fail 100 times (which shouldn't happen) you can still convince yourself if you refuse to doubt it.

Lucid dreaming give you a better imagination.

Originally Posted by DreamerDavious

But how does one persuade themselves to "know" they will have a lucid dreams. I've been able to have them that way just by believing like you said, but 75% of the time it doesn't work, and then my high hopes are shattered, maybe because I didn't believe enough. Is there a way to make yourself believe and actually make LD's happen short of hypnosis?
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I was just saying that to make him have a lucid dream. I have the same problem that you do. I don't know the answer.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I was just saying that to make him have a lucid dream. [/b]

Lol oops...hope i didn't ruin it...

Originally Posted by DreamerDavious

Lol oops...hope i didn't ruin it...
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It can still work, if you don't keep telling yourself it's a placebo, if you keep thinking in that way it won't work.

There is a logical framework to it, it is logical to say that your mind will beleive it if you don't say it's a placebo, therefore you will believe it works and if you beleive that you beleive that you beleive it works, you can know 100% that it will raise your chances.

Don't tell your mind it won't work there is two parts to your conscous mind, and your subconscous mind, your subconscous mind will accept ANYTHING but it has to pass through the conscous first (thats you), but if you say yes I will have a lucid dream and don't say it won't work, then it will go straight to your subconscous were it will take effect.

Sorry if it's confusing I read a book about the subject once.

It makes sense, I might try it again tonight if I don't get distracted again...