Getting Over The Excitment

Ok, so since none cares about my Adoption application.. i decided to start discovering LD by myself, as i bet it's a better way to become an expert in LD.
So, during my second phase of my triphasic sleep, from 4 PM to 7 PM, i had some weird dreams.
I think that for 20 minutes i woke up from a dream in another dream for like 20 times. All my dreams kept finishing suddenly, like i did something wrong (like falling, or injurying etc) and i opened my eyes and -again- i was in my bed. So i got up, walked thorugh the house for a short time, then i woke up again.
Anyway.. i bet you are familiar with these kind of dreams.
At one point i woke up for real (i think :D) but i didn't move nor opened my eyes. And so i did a weird combination between MILD and WILD and.. again i woke up in a dream. Anyway, it wasn't a LD so far, but at one point i did a RC and i realised i was dreaming.. Yay. I knew what's going to follow: that excitment that always wakes me up.
So. I looked at my hands. I tried to imagine as many details as possible.. like adding those tiny lines to my fingers, or clarifying the model of my carpet etc. It was a short and hard fight with my mind.. i was like on the edge of waking life and dream. and i knew there were so many things that i wanted to do in the LD.. so i rushed too much. Aaaaand of course, i opened my eyes.
And here's a weird thing that i found really interesting: that AWESOME fade from the imagine of the dreams and the images provided by my eyes. It was awesome !! Like a computer-generated fade. My dream hands (at which i was looking to stabilize my dream) just faded away, while the images from the waking reality appeared from nowhere. Really cool.
Anyway... even if i didn't controlled my LD for more than 30 seconds, i'm glad at least i had a LD.
The question is: could you guys please provide me some links to techniques that could help me get over that initial excitment when i realise i am dreaming? I am sure there are plenty of them on this forum.

~Vox.

Don't worry man! Same thing happening to me a night ago. My first LD ever and I got so excited that I woke up =P Some people find that having a plan for exactly what you want to do in an LD helps you not get excited. Also, trying taking some deep breaths and just relaxing for a minute. Anyway, I'm sure if you search around you'll find more help. Good luck =)

sit down in the dream, and deeply breathe, and meditate. id adopt you :)

Is there ever a point where you (not the thread starter, anyone) can get excited in a dream without waking up? Because I think not being able to get excited in my dreams would really kill the pleasure.

yeah, ive never gotten to excited and woke up, im lucky

Happened to me on my first time, and the second time it contributed to the end of it...

thanks for the "sitting down and meditating" tip. Whoever has more tips, please share.
@TripleX223: you sure you can adopt me? I think i've had more LDs then you had since i've joined the forum :P

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Originally Posted by Brilliand

Is there ever a point where you (not the thread starter, anyone) can get excited in a dream without waking up? Because I think not being able to get excited in my dreams would really kill the pleasure.[/b]

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Definitely, at first it's just hard to get excited without waking up. I'm still plenty excited in my dreams, I've just learned to keep it within the dream. Another thing you'll eventually learn is that you don't need reality tests. I'm at a point now where I don't need to perform them, something odd will just happen and I have had enough lucid dreams to just know that this wouldn't happen IRL. The night before last night I dreamt an old woman threw some coins at me. I immediately knew this is something that doesn't happen everyday IRL and that I must be dreaming and proceeded lucid. Last night I heard my neighbor screaming really loudly. I got out of bed and walked out of my apartment and then I realized that it had to be a dream and so I continued lucid.

If something unusual happens and you suspect for a second it's a dream, then it's a dream. If something odd happens and you're awake, then you will know it's not a dream.

Having said that, reality tests are brilliant, because at first you can't trust yourself enough without them. I remember a dream from many years ago where I was being chased by the police and I was considering whether to pull over. I was thinking: "This has to be a dream, this has never happened to me before, I should just try to outrun them and have some fun.", but I was scared that it might not be a dream and I would get myself killed. A quick reality test (the digital watch one always had a 100% success rate for me) proved I was in fact dreaming and so I floored it. But again, I haven't used a reality test for years now, yet I would definitely recommend using them as often as possible even when you know you're awake, so you get used to them, until you go lucid every night.

However, the first dreams I have during the night are never lucid and I've never been able to become lucid during one of them. I have some very vivid dreams, but it's like I'm too far from being awake to realize there even exists another world and that I might be dreaming. I'm currently trying to become lucid during these dreams using a home-built REM detection device, but I have a feeling that no matter what sounds I play, what lights I flash and how much I make my bed vibrate, that it might not pass through to the first dreams of the night when I'm so far away, so I've kind of accepted that. I'm just mentioning this, because at first I got really annoyed when I had spent all day doing reality tests, then I go to sleep and the very first dream I have, something completely ridiculous happens and I don't perform a reality test. So when I woke up I would be like: "How could I be so stupid? I've been doing these lame reality tests all friggin' day, then I fall asleep and immediately stop doing them?! Argh!" Now I wish I wouldn't have let myself become frustrated, because for me it seems that I just can't become lucid during my first couple of dreams, no matter how hard I try.

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Originally Posted by Brilliand

Is there ever a point where you (not the thread starter, anyone) can get excited in a dream without waking up? Because I think not being able to get excited in my dreams would really kill the pleasure.[/b]

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When I first become lucid, I get really excited. But then I try to calm myself down by taking deep breaths and examining the world around me. I look at the ground, listen intently, try to smell, taste etc. I feel that this little exercise makes me more "grounded." But when I finally decide to do things like fly, of course I'm excited! But I don't think it's enough to actually force me to wake up. After waking up the moment I became lucid a few times, I learned how to control it and stay asleep. I hope that helps and/or makes sense. Don't worry, you'll get there!

Personally, I've never awoken from getting overly excited but I can see how some might. Once you'd had several LDs you'll begin to get the feel for it and the initial feeling of being overwhelmed with the realization will be much more manageable. These days, when I become lucid, I just treat it as if it were the waking world but with amazing benefits and malleability. In other words, try not to "jump around" like you just won the lottery. The time for your victory dance is once you've awoken - after the dream has run its course.

I'm not saying to not be excited; I get excited every time. I experience a feeling of exhilaration and that hair-standing-on-end sensation whenever I reach what I'd consider "high lucidity". It's just that I approach the situation with an "OK, here I am, let's get to work" attitude.

But really, practice makes things much easier. But one trick you should try - if you aren't already aware of it - is to fall back and/or spin around with your arms out to your side the moment you feel lucidity starting to fade. You (or at least, I) can usually feel the awareness as it slips away. You can't always catch it in time but, trust me, the dream spinning method can work wonders. I was actually able to maintain lucidity 4 separate times in a dream last weekend by using this technique. In fact, I've used it ever since my very first LD.

It's weird, I never really think about it during a dream but when time comes to use it I just do it. Again, I can't always catch it in time. A couple of times I've tried to use it but couldn't manage to spin, no matter how hard I tried but, every time I've done the motion in a dream (that I recall), it's worked for me (LaBerge is my God!). You should definitely give it a try.

When I actually went lucid in my dream, I just kinda grinned and shot up to the ceiling.
:)
The excitement hit me later in the dream, and that's when it all faded black and I fell out of the dream.

for me getting excitied has no affect on the dream. it seems it remains stable, even if i get excited. i got excited once in a dream, and it was still stable/clear even after i relized i was dreaming. it ended soon after, because it was near the end of the dream anyway.

Netzilla makes a good point about the difference between dreams and reality; when you're awake, you know it, but when you're dreaming you often worry whether it's really a dream. It would be convenient if one could just remember that if you wonder if you're dreaming, you are. But still I often find myself afraid to really "pull the trigger" in a dream because "what if it's NOT a dream?".

The whole control thing reminds me of watching surfers try to get up on a big wave. So many of them barely get up, barely skating on the knife edge, and just as they gain balance they over-correct and... crash. It's such a fine line between taking control and waking up! I'd say for every 4 dreams where I realize I'm dreaming, in only 1 do I get past that point. In all of those I try to take control, but in only every third one or so can I "drive" for more than a few seconds. The longest I've been able to control was 4 or 5 minutes. (That is, what seemed like seconds or minutes; in real time it was only a few microseconds or a few seconds).

In many of my dreams my libido takes control and some sexual antics ensue. Those almost always end soon after the sexual excitement begins. Oh, well...

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Originally Posted by drb0505

The whole control thing reminds me of watching surfers try to get up on a big wave. So many of them barely get up, barely skating on the knife edge, and just as they gain balance they over-correct and... crash. It's such a fine line between taking control and waking up![/b]

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Not a bad analogy you have there.