Thread: Control w/o Lucidity

do you mean if we can do impoosible stuff in our dreams without being lucid? if so: when i think about it i dont do that... of course strange things happen, but nothing beyond the laws of fysics...

You haven't been adopted yet dj0s???

Yup. That's alot of mine where I'm not lucid. XD....I can fly and....i made a person blow up once...o.o.....There are other things that I can do but I forgot...xD...Then if I'm in a lucid dream I can only slighty hover a few feet above the ground..xD

EDIT: Would having super strenth count as control? xD..I was a TV show charactot and I had super strenth, agilty, and other things

Well, yeah, I get that sometimes. It happens when I'm in an impossible situation, something that could never happen in real life. When I was younger it happened when I had nightmares.
I don't turn lucid, but I can make stuff happen. Usually I simply chose to wake up.

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
extend the cab and the bed, and add all the features I wanted it to have.

Uhm... What kind of features are missing in your bed ?

Yeah, I get those kind of dreams occasionally. The powers that I do get though are mostly Telekinetic, Light energy, and stopping time powers. I can safely say that those are my most favorite dreams

Sometimes i use telekinesis in my dreams... Usually they are about sport, and I can manipulate sport equipment, like basketballs, tennis balls and so on... And of course I beat opponent's team

It is really fun, cause I"m in control, yet I never question *why* I can manipulate objects with such ease...

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
I decided to post this here because I believe it fits. I have had 2 dreams in the last month where I wan't lucid, but I had control. Meaning I could do the impossible, but I believed it was real and, well normal. The first was simply making a disappeared bug reappear. But last night I was able to take a simple 2001 white F-150, and extend the cab and the bed, and add all the features I wanted it to have. I don't even particularly care for trucks, hehe.

But I guess the point I wish to make, or rather ask a question: do many of you all have dream control without lucidity? My mom and my brother say they do all the time.

Just curious. I sure wish that when that happened, I could become lucid. As long as I'm controlling the dream, it would be nice that I be lucid and enjoy it more!

Ophilia, i can identify with you on this one.
I have been thinking about this a while now...and i have the same concerns you do.

For the past few months, i have had little LD's, but most of my dreams, i am in partial control. Whether they are low level lucid dreams or not, i feel that in the dreams that i am not conscious that i am fully dreaming, i know in the back of my head somehow that i can control it!

I suppose it is the consciousness trying to wake up in the subconscious world.

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
You haven't been adopted yet dj0s???

no

Originally posted by Lowercase Society
Ophilia, i can identify with you on this one.
I have been thinking about this a while now...and i have the same concerns you do.

For the past few months, i have had little LD's, but most of my dreams, i am in partial control. *Whether they are low level lucid dreams or not, i feel that in the dreams that i am not conscious that i am fully dreaming, i know in the back of my head somehow that i can control it!

I suppose it is the consciousness trying to wake up in the subconscious world.

Yes, that is it exactly! Good, I'm glad others seem to identify.
Hmmmm, "Ophilia" now, is it? Let's see, that would be the opposite of "Ophobia", right? Than means I'M NOT AFRAID OF O's!!!!!!!
Sorry, I couldn't resist.


dj0s: check your PMs

I can only remember one dream where I had powers when I wasn't lucid, I was able to shoot webs out of my hands like spiderman and swing into the sides of buildings.

The spiderman one is great fun - I found it difficult to get the swing right without whipping round the side of buildings. This is an example of control w/out lucidity. For me the experience is of levels of lucidity. In a 'normal' (!??!) dream there is always some degree of control, in the way that we have control in waking life with varying degrees of lucidity/ consciousness/ awareness. Many actions can be done almost entirely automatically - like walking or even flying. At the other end of the scale of lucidity is the fully lucid dream where absolutely everything is under control - the environment, characters, laws of physics etc.. (except for the occassional 'sneaky dream person'!). For me the most useful and exciting dreams are somewhere inbetween. When I realise I am lucid I often make the decision to not control the whole dream - just my own actions (which can include breaking the laws of physics/ doing magic). This way the dream seems more real and I feel I can learn lessons (e.g. overcomming fears) without cheating i.e. its not overcoming fear to make the monster evaporate/ explode, although it is empowering!

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Ophilia, i can identify with you on this one.
I have been thinking about this a while now...and i have the same concerns you do.

For the past few months, i have had little LD's, but most of my dreams, i am in partial control. *Whether they are low level lucid dreams or not, i feel that in the dreams that i am not conscious that i am fully dreaming, i know in the back of my head somehow that i can control it!

I suppose it is the consciousness trying to wake up in the subconscious world.

Yes, that is it exactly! Good, I'm glad others seem to identify.
Hmmmm, \"Ophilia\" now, is it? Let's see, that would be the opposite of \"Ophobia\", right? Than means I'M NOT AFRAID OF O's!!!!!!!
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Yeah, my dream life in the past 2 months has sucked, period, but my sex life has....er....nevermind...

Originally posted by slimslowslider
The spiderman one is great fun - I found it difficult to get the swing right without whipping round the side of buildings. This is an example of control w/out lucidity. For me the experience is of levels of lucidity. In a 'normal' (!??!) dream there is always some degree of control, in the way that we have control in waking life with varying degrees of lucidity/ consciousness/ awareness. Many actions can be done almost entirely automatically - like walking or even flying. At the other end of the scale of lucidity is the fully lucid dream where absolutely everything is under control - the environment, characters, laws of physics etc.. (except for the occassional 'sneaky dream person'!). For me the most useful and exciting dreams are somewhere inbetween. When I realise I am lucid I often make the decision to not control the whole dream - just my own actions (which can include breaking the laws of physics/ doing magic). This way the dream seems more real and I feel I can learn lessons (e.g. overcomming fears) without cheating i.e. its not overcoming fear to make the monster evaporate/ explode, although it is empowering!

I know...I had one dream where I found spiderman type gloves and I have all of the spiderman powers...that was fun! o.o. I wonder why some people have alot of control non lucid dreams and others don't.

I have dreams like that. I find that I become lucid from my control sometimes. I had two dreams about spider-man. One was where I had the gloves but then a couple of bullies stole them (eyes Remus )and I fought them but even though I was winning they kept managing to get away with it. Then I got drafted into this military thing and I was hunting down this guy by flying and shooting fireballs or something to that effect. In the other I was spider-man but it was like secret window, with the split personality popping up. I was the Peter Parker personality and the one popping up was the spider-man personality.

I often have control without lucidity. It happens randomly and unintentionally.

LDGuy was talking about split personalitys and I've had those in dreams too.

The most personalities I've had in a dream were three.

How weird--I had a Spiderman dream when I was a little kid. Basically, I just had the web-shooters, but that was enough to stop some bank-robbers (I was kind of a security guard in red-and-blue footy p.j.s, with web-shooters). It's one of maybe ten dreams I remember from childhood. Does Spiderman have some kind of Jungian resonance, or what?

On-topic, I was just posting about non-lucid control in another thread. I haven't had an LD longer than a minute or two in months, or very clear dream recall, but the last few nights my recall's way up, and last night I found myself gliding along a highway bridge at the speed of traffic, but without a car. I thought there was something a little weird about that, so when I flew off the bridge I didn't panic, but thought, "I'll bet I can deal with this," and slowed the fall, then attracted myself toward the nearest thing sticking out of the water. I missed, but after a couple sorta-levitating passes, I managed to get to dry land.

This "loose control" often means an LD is around the corner, for me. I'll have dreams where I realize that I'm in a reality where I can fly, or whatever, and lucidity steps up a notch, then I think, "wait, I've been in this reality before..." and now there's some critical thinking going on, and if I don't wake up, then the next logical step is, "Hey, I'm dreaming!"

last night I found myself gliding along a highway bridge at the speed of traffic, but without a car. I thought there was something a little weird about that, so when I flew off the bridge I didn't panic, but thought, \"I'll bet I can deal with this,\" and slowed the fall, then attracted myself toward the nearest thing sticking out of the water. I missed, but after a couple sorta-levitating passes, I managed to get to dry land. [/b]

Isnt it the weirdest thing? I can be doing all sorts of crazy things, like last night there was this giant soft furry spider, about the size of a basketball, nuzzling around my legs. At first I was alarmed, but it seemed friendly so I stroked it and it purred like a cat! I didnt question this for one moment though... so much for dream signs...

Once in a dream I discovered that I could teleport if I lay down, close my eyes, and well...just teleport. I went from one couch in my hosue to the couch upstairs. Funny thing, I got excited as if it happened in real life. I thouhgt I unlocked some key to the universe. Then I realized i had magical powers beyond that. Never r ealized it was a dream, til I woke up. You can imagine how dissapointed I was.