Time Freeze?

**Lucius** · 11-10-2003 11:43 AM

Im not sure were I should put this topic but I gues dream control should do. But to the point..

I've heared here and there that it is somehow possible to actually stop time when you are in a lucid dream making you able to spend like days,weeks or even months in a dream, while there only passes a small period of time in the waking world..

If this was true you could like spend a month in a dream then,one day in the waking world,then a month in a dream again..now that woul open new possibilities..an entire new world,but its probally either bullshit or extremely difficult to achieve and only able to freeze time for a couple hours,you guys ever heared about it?

**Seeker** · 11-10-2003 01:51 PM

That would be a neat trick.
Seri, any ideas on this?

**jill1978** · 11-10-2003 04:33 PM

I cant see why this would'nt be possible somehow, but might take extreme mental skills....I cant even keep my lucidity for over a half hour of perceived time.

**Ginko** · 11-10-2003 11:51 PM

I know hot to stop Real Time in your Dream. Although im not sure if you can dream where you stop time and every 1 around you is frozen in time. But i know of a Teckque devised by some guy where you spend years in a dream

i know how to lenthin your lucid dream. I read this at another

A series of test where done to lucid dreamers somwhere where they seeed how long they could stay in there Lucid dream. Well this 1 guy reported living up to somthing like 94 years in his dreams. Ill tell you how he did it and how its poosible later 2.

First after becomeing lucid he made sure he didn't want to think about his body liying there on the bed. Instead he what he did is he Yelled " Stop Real Time". He imagened himself slowing down time, maybe like he watched the hands of a clock slow down or somthin. He visualized it as everything in the dream world would stay the same but anything else outside of the dream world slowy be moving.

After awakening and reporting to have lived 94, the explantions where given. To you dreaming regular dreaming seems to be like your normal life, but when you know your LD, you Know you only have a certain amount of time, this acknolgement makes you also think of the outside world and pulls you closer to awakwning. He really didn't sleep 94 years. Memories from his consiouse life filled in the little gaps and he percived as if he lived 94 years. So in all truth he really thought while he was dreaming he lived to be 94.

If any of you know what im say is wrong plz tell me, and if you don't know what im saying just ask.

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 12:35 AM

Hey man, thanks. That sounds like it should work. Can you post a few web-links, or do you remember where you heard this?

**Silver Sphere** · 11-11-2003 01:52 AM

I have my doubts. Seems to me like your brain operates pretty much the same when you're asleep as when awake with regards to time, so unless you can do that while you're wide awake, I don't see it working.

Would there be any way to prove this is possible if you could do it?

**Lucius** · 11-11-2003 07:49 AM

Hmmm, it could be possible many mysteries are yet to be revealed an I doubt the brain actually works on the same level when your dreaming then when it does when your awake,yes it should be possible, but it probbaly requires great mental power.

But question,what if you would stay in a dream for so many years,would you stay awake in your dream or actually go to sleep in your dreams and wake up in your dreams cause staying awake for years and years doesnt seem that good either, but going to sleep in your dreams and waking up in them seems hard,or atually it would be like a false awakening??

**Serinanth** · 11-11-2003 08:31 AM

... well..

They did tests, and found that time runs just a little bit faster in dream, but is normaly around the same as real time.

They hooked sensors up to a dreamers eyes, using a predetermined signal of eye movements, they would signal when they attain lucidity and then signal again at which time they would start counting to ten in the dream, when they finished they would signal again, they found it to be close to real time. They say that the experiences where it seems like you live or experience a long period of time is simply your mind tricking you, adding in thougths and memories that make it seem like time has passed...

I cannot accept that due to my own personal experience, I refuse to accept that the time I spent was made up... its just too long a time, too many experiences.

The mind can operate at much faster speeds without being tied down by the body, think about your dreams... how in the HELL does it create then process all that visual, auditory olfactory, well all your senses.. how does it create a world so seamlessly so quickly? There is ALOT of unused potential there... and probably alot more...

The spirit interacts with the brain at speeds of less that of planck time whish is suposed to be the smallest measure of time, there is something like 5X10**44 planck intervals in one second, any time smaller than that is...

Fuzzy...

Yep folks

Science says time is fuzzy... *sigh*

Well anyways, during such a small interval of time the spirit is able to exert tremendous will on certain atoms.. namely the ones in your neurons...Works like this... a powerlifter can burst lift something twice as heavy as if her were going for repetitions...
Thats how the spirit interacts with the brain.

So if you are withdrawn from the waking world in totality, if you were retreated to just the spiritual essense of yourself... you have alot of time on your hands. Also explains how we can easily expand out awareness in dreams when we begin to release the tethers to the physical.

rant rant rant..

**Tim** · 11-11-2003 09:56 AM

i have read about this on a couple sites

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 01:39 PM

Makes sense Serinanth. Where did you get your information about the spirit interacting with they physical at the Planck constant?
I would like to read that paper!

**Lucius** · 11-11-2003 05:39 PM

WHoa..imagine a 94 years lasting lucid dream, I mean thats mad..if you awake from that you would completely be outta balance i think,not used to the normal world at all..but nobody then actually answered my previous question yet,what do you think, if you were to spend that much time in a dream would you actually sleep and awake in it? like having a false awakening,knowing it is one..you could pretty much live another life,or even,a new life

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 05:42 PM

That's a scary path you are starting down....

How do you know that you are not in an extended dream right now and might wake up at any time?

**Lucius** · 11-11-2003 05:47 PM

Actually, nothing is for sure in this life, so who knows,mabey it is,mabey its not,but still you didnt tell me what you think, would you actually sleep and wake up in a dream?

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 05:51 PM

I was thinking the EXACT thing, and was going to make a thread...well darn..someone beat me to it...

yeah, I really want to get more into this too...it is FAR too interesting to ignore!

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 05:52 PM

Given that LDers are prone to false awakenings, I suspect that you would have regular sleep intervals. Would you dream within those sleep intervals?
I have no idea, but suspect you would.

I wonder if some similar mechanism is responsible for some comatose conditions. Those where there is no injust and normal brain activity, but the person simply won't wake up.

**Lucius** · 11-11-2003 05:54 PM

Indeed it does, just thinking about the possibilities ey? hehe

,that would be like..uhh..the invention of the wheel for cars,or something well, you know what I mean

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 05:56 PM

well yeah, I have many dreams (damn them!) where I'm laying in bed or on a couch, trying to go to sleep and have a lucid dream!

**Dream-Master** · 11-11-2003 06:56 PM

Here is my theory (coming from a neurobiologist)

As Seri said, time passes almost equally fast in dreams as in real life. But what if our mind could produces memories incredibibly fast in the dreams, such that the sleeping mind downloads and saves all those memories in the 10 minutes that you are lucid. When you actually remember the memories you feel like they are much longer. Just like copying a DVD. Takes a minute to save but three hours to watch. Haven't we all heard of people who see their entire life go past them in the second before an accident? I think it's the same principle. You are seeing it downloaded and can pack a ton in a little time space!

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 07:13 PM

so it's actually possible!?! *shudders at the possibilities*

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 07:48 PM

Remember Total Recall? A whole two week vacation downloaded instantly.

**Lucius** · 11-11-2003 08:41 PM

Its probaly possible,why the hell not

Its probally gonna take some time,but mabey with alot of practise it will

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 09:03 PM

I'm sure it'll be totally worth it no matter how long it takes. think about it, if we learn to do that, then learn to 'share dreams' er whatever you call it..we could all..get together and crap...freaky...