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The only way I can get myself to fly is to focus on an object and move the object relative to myself. I usually try to not look at the ground at all when I do this. I was flying all over the place last night it was really fun. When using this technique, don't flip over because you could very well fall(I always do).
I previously said that I never have trouble flying and I can just will myself to do it, but I guess that's not always true. Last night I had some lucid dreams. In one of them I could fly fine, but in another I was having difficulty. I could lift off fine by jumping straight up and expecting to keep going, but I'd reach about 10-15 metres and then start falling back down. I found that a good way to keep going after I fell was to just "bounce" off the ground and fly upwards again. The ground was concrete, but it acted like a trampoline. So hopefully if anyone has the same type of problem this trick will help.
I've noticed that happening to me too. Hmm. I guess it depends on your level of lucidity or state of mind at that particular moment.Quote:
In one of them I could fly fine, but in another I was having difficulty. [/b]
Perhaps you're the person that can help me slimslowslider as you sound experienced in the world of dream flight.
Luckily, attaining flight in my LD's is something Ive not had a problem with thus far. In fact, I sometimes do it automatically when I just want to stay on the ground and explore my immediate environment for a while, which can be a little annoying.
However, I realised last night that I'm not quite as good at it as I had thought. I was flying around the coastline and I saw a small wooden hut mounted on some decking in the middle of the ocean. Thinking this must be there for a reason I flew towards it. As I got close and tried to land on it I didn't seem to have enough control to hit the right spot. I kinda felt like a helicopter that had been shot down, and I eventually landed in the ocean and woke up.
It seems I can land near larger buildings that I have targeted, but this smaller target posed too much of a challenge.
Do you have any advice?
Try spinning while flying up or landing so that you can control your trajectory better.Quote:
Originally posted by flyatknight
It seems I can land near larger buildings that I have targeted, but this smaller target posed too much of a challenge.
Do you have any advice?
When you're landing, try to take it slower. If you shoot at the ground then several things can go wrong: you miss, you thud into the ground (often waking up), things get out of control, etc. Just take it easy and try to float down gently.
I have no trouble flying in dreams, LD or not. But I couldn't fly in the beginning.
In the beginning, flying was like walking on an invisible stairs, then, it was like riding a bicycle. After that, it was like swimming without using hands. But after that I decided those weren't cool enough, that I wanted to fly like goku or gundam mobile suits, that I can float, charge up and rush forward. I always day dreamed I was a mobile suit in real life, so I did that in my dream and it worked. No thrust coming out though.
Maybe it helps if you visualize yourself flying while awake, so that it feels natural when you try to do it in your dream.
flyatnight
For me, my dreams vary in lucidity alot - there's a whole scale from total awareness & total control to a fleeting feeling that I'm dreaming. I can find myself flying in any dream, and its not always a dream sign - which is why I can understand your problem with landing. I often find myself having control problems - which can be fun! It is usually when I'm not lucid and so rationalise flying to be some energy/ gravity thing I've just discovered. So I'm usually levitating in some way - this lack of gravity often causes me to have probelms staying on the ground, or standing upright. Try increasing lucidity - which some have suggested above - eg by spinning, or shouting 'LUCIDITY NOW' or for me its focussing REALLY INTENTLY on something.
PS I havent written the book yet!
A question: Does anyone else get this? I for one, and I think its true of most people, dont always dream in first person i.e I have dreams where I'm watching the action from above like through a cine camera. These often become flying dreams - as I pan and zoom around the scene, I at some point shift to first person then realise "I'm in the air so must be flying".
Flying in a dream is as easy as walking in a dream. But since you walk all the time you dont find it that strange or hard ot believe and pretty much assume itll work, and it does. Now that Im used to flying its as easy as walking, only more fun.
I think you ppl really do make it seem harder than it seems in my first ld i could fly.
METHOD
Jump in the air and make you self stay the
to move just want to move and be confident that you will.If you want to move then you have to think that you will and nothins going to stop you!
The only time i've ever flied i used a slightly different technique. I was very much lucid, but was struggling to get my feet off the ground (;)). I tried a few techniques, jumping etc., but none quite worked. In the end i ran into a bus, sat in the drivers seat, looked upwards, then slammed on the accelerator. Strangely, the bus didn't do anything, but i smashed through the windscreen and went fly, fly, flying. I dunno why a vehicle helped me so much, but it did (maybe cos it related the situation to a real life, familiar experience - driving my car?). You might wanna add this... up to you - a bit obscure, i know.
The technique I use when I fly is like a mix between being superman and an airplane :P I extend my arms in front of my and take off like a harrier, hovering and then blastin outta there. and for turning and control, I imagine invisible elevators and rudder just like on an airplane... I think its very effective, as I've used a lot of different techs. in the past. You can build up tons of speed this way which is always fun. Just don't hit anything :D
I use the "Pull yourself up something really tall, like a tree, post, wall, or otherwise" approach. Just start climbing on stuff, or run super fast until you lose weight and gain moonman jump skills. Been flyin for a long time, since I was little. One thing I noticed about flying was that if I could create this certain sensation in my chest area, just by focusing, I could lift off directly with no aid from structures around me. It feels like a pressure in the rib cage, like kundalini I guess. Hard to explain.
-Torcher
My flight control isn't great, but it's there. I would suggest trying to move your surroundings instead of moving yourself. IE, visualize everything in your field of view moving down. The problem with this is that you can't go very fast (since you constantly need to imagine new landscape appearing that way, and I don't know about you, but that's too much for me), and if you go too high you won't have any landscape to move around (I find it difficult to rise over the tops of the nearest buildings, actually). I'm not even sure that that's what I'm doing in my dreams, by the way - they're not exactly very clear.
How about shortcuts? Ie.
1. Wow this jetpack in this box will make it easy to fly
2. Nice, I'm flying
3. Hmm, this piece of crap is part of my imagination. I don't need it
You've got a point Wicked, about the difficulty of sustaining images below you. The last time I flew I ended up in clouds w/ no reference for what had been beneath me. The dream then changed to another location.
Several things I have done as alternatives to flying are:
-Fly low, near the ground
-Run at super-human speeds
-Attempt low-gravity levitation at high speed
-Fly slow, hover a bit and let it all sink in
-wall-jumping, spiderman style (more like floating)
-plane flying. (I found a car, turned it into a plane, flew it over my hometown.)
* The town stayed together but the plane disappeared. I could still feel the propeller of the Messerschmidt and acceleration was got by will alone and the idea of having a throttle. I think having an idea that the flight was being sustained by something outside my self increased the simplicity of flying. Planes fly, we know that, so I didnt have that inner argument of doubt associated with willed flying/floating, etc. Also, this was far faster flying than other flying experiences during LD. -OUT-
-Torch
Ah, the board is back :)
I actually tried, in a recent dream, to concentrate on an object and pull myself towards it. I wanted to try flying, so I rose slowly above the ground (I never do leaping), concentrated on the antenna of a far away roof, and started imagining myself pulled to it. The speed, while not amazing, was probably faster than 95% of my experiences with flying in other dreams. Now, a pretty strange thing - I actually overshot the roof I was pulling myself onto. I had to turn back a bit (this time in the usual way I fly, no pulling), place myself above the roof, then land. I wonder if it usually happens with this method of flight.
Um, a purely technical comment on the tutorial - there's some BB code gone wrong around Staircase Method/Jetpack and 'Jump off a building' is on twice.
I would offer some tips on flying but my only memories are very old and I'm less confident now. So this nitpicky post will just have to be my entire contribution :P
I just figured out a way to fly really good in my last LD. My last flying method is not even flying compared to this. I only had one LD to test it but It was incredible. So I figured I might as well post it.
first just get off the ground it doesent matter how. then once your in mid air just move your feet back and forth dont move your arms at all. Then picture yourself as a rocket and just softly will yourself up verticly. Your feet should serve as a perpeller. You may go up so fast you end up in space in just a split second. if you want to change direction just put your self horizontly and fly like super man. I like this method because you dont have to worry much about keeping yourself up in the air so you can land on oblects and buildings easily and your arms are free to grab hold of stuff.
I Almost always fly in my dreams. When I was in about 2nd or 3rd grade in school I remember laying face down on the ground and a girl hoped on my back and I would take off and give the girl a ride. That was about the year 1958. I always thought it was just a matter of wanting to do it. I never gave it a second thought. I do enjoy it more now when I'm lucid. Its like when I took Hang Gliding lessons. I studied aerodynamics and new all the ins and outs and do’s and do not’s .I even designed a model Hang Glider and talked to the father of hang gliding F Rogolo himself about my invention. But when it cam time to go up on a tandem flight with an instructor, he said to me JUST FLY the lessons pay off but in practice just DO IT.
If you believe you can do it, you can. Simple as that.
I've flown a couple of times in my dreams now but it wasn't an over night sucess. About 2 months before I could fully fly I was finding my self having dreams where I would do a small jump into the air (1 foot) then I would not land, and my feet were off the ground about 30 cm. Then I could just move foward with my feet off the ground. Felt really strange. Try just doing that at first then once you have all that sussed just experiment.
I've discovered another method of fast flying :P
Choose an object on the horizon and "zoom" to it, in progress, choose another object and do the same thing. This method results in a very high speed flight when you dont have a specific goal in mind...
The tutorial's already up if you want to check it out. It's got lots of stuff in it thanks to everyone who posted! :D The "zoom" method's included but I'm thinking of adding another (due to my last LD experience). I tried using air currents to push me into the air and I would have succeeded had I been able to sleep for a little bit longer.
well, what I did, in my ONE LD(so i am no means someone consider experienced) was just after I became lucid, I just kneww I am dreaming, so I just sort of knew I could fly, so I just let myself float off and concentrared on the place I wanted go.