Thread: Close your eyes. No, actually; DON'T.

no idea but i do know a massive energy surge in the directon of movement on a muscle does wake you up

i got stabbed once and put a hell load of energy into punching him cept my real arm swang round waking me up

same with a m8 of mine wanted to be cool while dreaming (to impress the ladies) to head a football cooly he concentrated so hard he woke up then nutted the wall, funnyest thing i has ever seen

Yeah closing my eyes always wakes me up. So now I don't do that anymore.

I'd think it's because even when you're in sleep paralysis you can still move your eyes, so I figure that when you move your eye lids you're actually moving your physical eye lids.

Yeah I think catbus is probably right. I haven't read up on it anywhere, but if you can be in sleep paralysis and REM then obviously you can still move your eyes. But I'd think that not only would it make you move physically, but it can cause you to lose concentration. A lot of people have trouble with opening or closing their eyes during lucids or techniques like FILD

I agree with Catbus. If you are going to be closing your eyes intentionally, try to anchor yourself to the dream with your other senses. It seems that vision is the most dominant sense in our dreams, most people don't even have dreams with the other senses. Try to be eating something, and touching something, or saying something, all at the time you close your eyes. I bet if you give your brain some sensory overload that it won't wake you up

Also try to remember that it isn't your actual eyes that are closing in the dream anyway. It's just a simulation of your eyes closing, but opening your eyes may not be a simulation. Why were you trying to close your eyes? Is there another way to achieve that goal without having to "open" your eyes?

That's usually the most reliable method to ending your dream. Don't close your eyes.

It's possible that closing your eyes will simply cause a FA so RC every time you wake up

guess I read this thread too late. i just woke myself up by closing my eyes in a dream 3 hours ago . I tried to concentrate to make myself fly, I seem to have a bit of aproblem with my dream control atm.

Ya opening my eyes is how i wake up from dreams so i try really hard not to closer or open my eyelids while LD'ing

In dreams, everything requires your attention to exist. With no attention, there can be nothing. Closing your eyes like that brings you to what I like to call the point of introversion. Your focus floods inwards and there is nothing left to sustain the dream.

If you have to close your eyes, try to feel the ground underneath your feet, try to hear the sounds around you, or try to smell. This will create additional focus points to anchor you in the dream.

Me too! Everytime I blinked, I felt myself losing lucidity.

Man I hate it when this happens!

It's happened to me twice.

As a matter of fact, in my second LD (of all time) I had yesterday, I kept blinking to try this. Nothing happened, at all. I could feel my eyes closed, and nothing changed at all when I reopened them in my LD. Oh, and I didn't ground myself or anything.

Just saying.

I'm not talking about blinking. I mean keeping them closed for let's say 5 seconds. Bye bye dream!

I have closed my eyes in a lucid before, and I didn't wake up. I couldn't seem to fly, so I closed my eyes for a good 10 seconds and imagined the wind blowing past me. Once I opened them I was 1000's of feet in the air. Another time I tried closing my eyes, it woke me up almost instantaniously. The first time I was calm and relaxed, and didn't even focus on it. I just did it and it worked, the second time I was rushing, and a tad too excited and it woke me up easily. Perhaps if you don't pay attention to closing your eyes, just do it. In real life if you stretch and close your eyes, you don't pay attention to it do you? No.

I DIDN'T pay attention to it. I just did. I don't know why.
It was also right before I jumped out of a window.

have you ever had a dream where you thought you were peeing in a toilet, and instead, soiled your bed?

yup, it's the same! lol

Instead of closing your eyes, stop looking.

Looking at what? That doesn't make any sense. The closing eyes thing was a reflex by the way.

I mean if you want to not see, don't look.

Eliminating a sense in a dream is simple, but moving your dream eyes consciously, you will try to move them in a way you move your waking life eyes, which may make you wake up - though I don't know why.

This is actually pretty interesting. I had a an LD two nights ago, and during it I was having trouble flying higher than about 10 feet from the ground. I decided to try my method of imagining a rocket pack on my back, but it didnt work, so I tried to summon one, thinking "I'll just close my eyes and when I open them I'll have a jetpack on" I closed my eyes and immediately felt myself losing the dream. Luckily I opened them up really quickly and spun, which re-solidified the dream.

Happens to me often, especially if you are in the end of REM or early in the morning. Sucks. that's why I never close my eyes in dream anymore.

Originally Posted by DontSitTooCloseToMe

have you ever had a dream where you thought you were peeing in a toilet, and instead, soiled your bed?

yup, it's the same! lol

I once sleepwalked too the bathroom and urinated my pajamas thinking I was going in the toilet.