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      Lucid Nightmares

      Hey,
      I'm new to this forum. I just discovered (a friend suggested)that I may have been having Lucid dreams my whole life. From what I've read I guess this is fairly rare and I don't know much about it and I am not trying to have these dreams at all.
      Well recently I have been having terrible dreams/nightmares in which I know I am dreaming but I can't get out of them.

      For example: last night I had a dream that 4 of my cousins were murdered and I was at the funerals and my whole family was hysterically crying. I was really shaken up in the dream even though I knew I was dreaming because the whole thing was just so realistic and very emotional. Anyway...at one point my Aunt approached me in the dream and said she was concerned that I wasn't crying or visibly upset. I told her it was because I was dreaming and that this wasn't real. She proceeded to get very upset and started shaking me saying..."This is real!". It was so upsetting that I tried to tell myself in the dream to wake up but she kept convincing me that the dream was real. It got so confusing that I couldn't distinguish between what was real and what was a dream. I guess I started breathing heavily in my sleep and saying "No, no,no" over and over and my boyfriend had to wake me up. I can control other things in the dream like navigating around a house or "wishing" things into "existence" but sometimes I start believing my dream is real again and I can't get out of it.
      This happens at least several times a week. Most of the time when I tell the characters in my dream that I am dreaming they get upset and won't accept it, laugh at me, think I'm crazy or do everything they can to convince me that the dream is real...sometimes they succeed. Very Matrixesque

      This has become very common for me and to be honest it's scary (my boyfriend is getting creeped out too). I didn't know until very recently that being aware that you are dreaming was uncommon, again I do it a lot. Everything I read about Lucid Dreaming says that it can be used to help get rid of nightmares and says nothing about the two occurring together. If anyone has any suggestions that would be great. I would love to know how to have more "happy" lucid dreams because currently I am afraid to fall asleep. Thanks!

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      Hi Joi, welcome to the forum! I highly recommend Stephen LaBerge's method for dealing with nightmares. From his FAQ:

      Unreasonable fear can be defused by facing up to the source, or going through with the frightening activity, so that you observe that no harm comes to you. In a nightmare, this act of courage can take any form that involves facing the "threat" rather than avoiding it. For example, one young man dreamt of being pursued by a lion. When he had no place left to run, he realized he was dreaming and called to the lion to "come and get him." The challenge turned into a playful wrestling match, and the lion became a sexy woman (NightLight 1.4, 1989, p. 13). Monsters often transform into benign creatures, friends, or empty shells when courageously confronted in lucid dreams. This is an extremely empowering experience. It teaches you in a very visceral manner that you can conquer fear and thereby become stronger.
      If you read Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming, he also says confronting a dream "monster" by saying "I love you" is another great way to defuse the situation. I personally have used this to great effect. I'm not sure how you would translate this approach to deal with things that already happened in the dream, like your cousins dying. Be creative. Maybe expect to see them stand up in their casket and laugh like it was a practical joke, or expect them to walk in from the nearest door or something. Anyway, best of luck in overcoming your nightmares.

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      Thanks. I will try that and I will def check out the info you gave me. From what I posted does it sound like what I am having are Lucid dreams? And if it is...what would be causing them? I haven't tried to have them and it sounds like it takes some work to be able to train your mind to lucid dream regularly.
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      From the accounts you described I would say that you were definitely lucid dreaming. I wouldn't get too hung up about whether your dream characters actually believe you though. Like the "tech support" guy from the end of Vanilla Sky says, "It's in their nature to fight for their (actual) existence." Just ignore them if they don't believe you...they are just parts of your own mind.

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      Thanks!
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      Hey Joi

      Welcome! Sounds like you are indeed a natural lucid dreamer, and I'm pretty sure that we can help you make them as positive as the rest of us view them!!

      For starters, I think that you should do as much reading as you can on reality checks(http://www.dreamviews.com/community/....php?p=1057431 , http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=4470), which are little tests you can do that usually indicate that you are dreaming.

      *One reality check is to look at your hands, as they'll often appear strangely colored, slightly deformed, or with extra or fewer fingers on them.
      *Another is to attempt to push the finger of one hand through the palm of the other- in a dream, it will go right through. This goes for any solid objects.
      *Another is to pinch your nose and close your mouth, and inhale through your nose. In a dream, you will experience breathing even though you shouldn't, which can be a clear indicator that you are dreaming.
      *Also, digital clocks and any sort of writing usually are not stable and will be illegible or change if you look at them in a dream, so if you suspect you're dreaming and look at some text, look away, look again, look away, look again, it should help you determine if you're awake or not. Those are my personal favorite reality checks.
      *Other ones that I've read about are gently biting the tip of your tongue and trying to jump/fly (usually you will float down or something else strange).

      This sounds like your best bet, as well as reading about dream control. I recommend http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=38954 and http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=57283 . That way, if something bad is going on and they're trying to convince you it's not real, you can reality check and prove to yourself that they're the crazy ones Also, if you work on dream control and expecting your dream characters (DCs) to be friendly, that should change their behavior. Panicking and other negative emotions do seem to cause your dream to take a turn for the worse, so remaining calm, knowing that it is just a dream, and finding unique and usually fun ways around these situations may make lucid dreaming better for you

      Best of luck, and if you found that helpful and have any more questions please feel free to ask
      Last edited by Shift; 03-24-2009 at 06:24 PM.

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      he also says confronting a dream "monster" by saying "I love you" is another great way to defuse the situation.
      That's how I dealt with a scary situation that happened when I had my 3rd lucid dream last month. I was kissing this girl I know in real life named Britanie, and all of a sudden (because I think it was in the back of my mind, worrying that something scary would happen), her head transformed and she looked like this weird scary demon thing. I looked right at it/her and said, "DON'T do that, I love you!" and then she changed back.

      It was pretty cool, haha!
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      Wishing for a BFG works too.

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