Hmm...is this even possible???

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10-19-2004, 04:07 AM
blakdreamer

Hmm...is this even possible???

Can you have a lucid dream and somehow by focusing on another
person bring them into the dream if they are sleeping too?
I'm just wondering.....Also would it be easier if they know nothing
of dream control......
10-19-2004, 04:15 AM
louie54

this kinda confuses me a lil. r u talkin bout like bringin the actual personality and share dreams? if so ther is a way. u both hav to plan a lucid dream. place,time,who,wat. correct me if thats not wat ur askin.
10-19-2004, 04:18 AM
Naruto

Heh, can't be proved there Louie... I wouldn't count on it, to be able to connect in a dreamworld, why wouldnt you see other people in it, just doesnt seem logical at all.
10-19-2004, 04:43 AM
blakdreamer

hmm

Well I mean to somehow get a real person's
actual psyche into ur dream without thier
consent.....or perhaps find a way into thiers...
10-19-2004, 12:33 PM
Jammy

There are many discussions about this around on the forum at this time. Arguments both for and against if its possible
10-21-2004, 03:29 AM
SilvaStar

i like to believe anything is possible, but i think it would be easier with that person's cooperation. i think they would have to be open to it, unless your psyche is a very strong one. it's makes me think of hypnotism...you won't go under if you dont open yourself up to it. :?:
10-22-2004, 10:34 PM
blakdreamer

hmm

seems reasonable.....I'll try to find one of the topics...
10-23-2004, 02:27 PM
justme

i brought 2 diffent people into 2 differnt lucid dreams and i told them to say a phrase the next time i see them if they rember me i their dreams but none of the people i know rarely rembers there dreams
10-25-2004, 06:17 PM
peebrain

Ya, it's possible.

http://psipog.net/show_16.html

We call it "dream walking".

~Sean
10-26-2004, 11:07 PM
blakdreamer

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Originally posted by peebrain
Ya, it's possible.

http://psipog.net/show_16.html

We call it \"dream walking\".

~Sean

Ooo I like that site...I've seen it b4
Hmm...what it says sounds about right....
I was thinking along those lines...
11-03-2004, 12:56 AM
DreamMagi

Hmm Peebrain... I stumbled upon PsiPog just a few days before I started coming to this site, some really cool stuff there.
11-03-2004, 02:13 AM
GestaltAlteration

I gotta say no, Like always though I can't scratch out the fact it is possible I believe two people being in the same dream is not possible simply because of the way dreams are constructed, so by just looking and willing it theres little chance it could happen. Though who knows what PLANES of reality you enter deep in the lucid chain..
11-04-2004, 05:33 AM
CT

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dont really think so.
11-04-2004, 01:00 PM
Dark_No0B

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Hmm...is this even possible???

Yep.

When it comes to dreaming, anything is possible.

I find dream sharing to be one of the most difficult things ever.
11-05-2004, 05:10 PM
Horrigan

hmm i dunno im abit sceptic about this , cause i mean for someone else to be in your lucid dream with both of u lucid and aware wats going on , its almost liked youd have to be networked sorta type thing if u know wat i mean. i just dont see how u can both be in the same lucid dream considering the surrondings around u are wat your imagination/brain is making u see. so i mean how could that person see the same surroundings?

id like to hear a LD veterans thought on this if possible
11-05-2004, 08:00 PM
Kaniaz

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Originally posted by Dark_No0B

When it comes to dreaming, anything is possible.

Technically, you're wrong.
11-05-2004, 09:18 PM
Syntex

Mutual Dreaming

Hey guys,

I did a Mutual Dreaming (shared dreaming) experiment with my uncle that lasted about a month. When we recorded our dreams and compared and contrasted, we found that the dreams that I saw him in and the dreams he saw me in were very simular. Especially on this one dream where I was telling him about my dream in a dream and he told me the next day about the dream I told him in the dream, which were about 95% identical. Also I remember being conscious and telling him he was dreaming, the next day he reported that something was trying to grab him and tell him he was dreaming. I remember grabbing his arm in that dream. He also recalled a brightness, and I remember that the sun rise was behind us when I told him.

On another experiment, I tried it with a friend of mind. It was more spontanious. He lives far away (me in calif. and him in tex.) Everytime he was trying to call or email me on any one day, I dreamed of him trying to e-mail me or call me in the dream. It turned out everytime I did get to talk to him, I told him my dreams and he said that he was trying to call or e-mail me that day, but was too busy etc. They all fit on the exact dates...

Not saying that this is true and you can do it, but in my experience is sure as hell seems like it. I'm still skeptical, but it sure looks possible.

-Daniel :-P [/b]
11-06-2004, 07:39 AM
blakdreamer

Re: Mutual Dreaming

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Hey guys,

I did a Mutual Dreaming (shared dreaming) experiment with my uncle that lasted about a month. (edited for space)

-Daniel :-P [/b]

I think perhaps when we dream we may unlock some parts of our brain that restrict us
and do things by habit (from when we were babies). This unlocking may result in our
brains being connected not a spiritual plane (it may be viewed that way) but rather much
like wireless laptops. If you think about it our brains are MUCH better at storing information,
etc. than laptops, so it's not too unbelieveable that they could become connected. Perhaps
when we dream, the people we come in contact with are ALL real people. But we see it in
our own views. This might also explain why we sometimes have control in our dreams and
we sometimes don't even if we are lucid. There may be someone with better dream control
around you keeping things the same(they dont have to be lucid). A reason why we haven't
talked(like a meeting) may be that even though we are speaking regular words in our dream
it may come out as something completely different in the other persons dream, making it
seem as though they are entirely different dreams. Not to mention we have dreams where
we aren't even ourselves......I mean if I think I'm picasso in my dream and I am visibly shown
that way to people passing how many would know it's me???

I have recently thought these ideas and I want to know what you all think about them...
11-06-2004, 01:17 PM
Dark_No0B

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When it comes to dreaming, anything is possible.

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Not really.

Only speak for yourself. Once dreaming is mastered, anything is possible.
11-06-2004, 01:24 PM
Kaniaz

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Oh. Okay. I master dreaming. I blow up the world. I can see that happening.
11-06-2004, 11:39 PM
Dark_No0B

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Lol, anything is possible as in anything is possible in the DREAM world. :roll:
11-07-2004, 12:58 AM
dreamer3

hmm.... from a scientific point of view, no. dreams are just randomly generated by your brain while you sleep.

i think it can happen because it HAS happend to me.

believe wichever one you want.
11-07-2004, 02:40 AM
Kaniaz

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Technically, you're wrong.

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Only speak for yourself. Once dreaming is mastered, anything is possible.

Oh. Okay. I master dreaming. I blow up the world. I can see that happening.[/b]

Lol, anything is possible as in anything is possible in the DREAM world. :roll:[/b][/quote]

You could of said which world we were talking about much, much earlier, then this big mess of quotes would never of happened. *smacks with oar* :P
11-15-2004, 01:10 AM
havock

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9585

Weird instance between me and my brother. I would never have believed this possible like many of you, but his descriptions were so much alike to what I had dreamed...
11-18-2004, 07:14 AM
pcmsurf

cant believe it till i see concrete evidence

dreams arent from some machine(dreams arent a matrix type of thing) that people can connect to

they are from ones brain

if it even had a chance which i wont rule out the person would have to be able to subconciously tap into someones brain feed to have that same dream

i think many experiences that people have where they think its the real thing is just an unlikely coincidence
11-25-2004, 01:35 AM
nightowl

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cant believe it till i see concrete evidence [/b]

just curious, but what do you consider "concrete evidence"
01-04-2005, 06:41 AM
jrh7r9

The Human brain is the most complex system in the universe. In fact, a single protein 100 amino acids long has more complexity(variations of monomers) than there are atoms in the universe. I'm sure a brain, made of trillions of proteins that are each on average 1000 amino acids long, could do pretty much anything it was designed to do, Including comunicate without known language.

Then again, maybe I'm just silly.
01-05-2005, 08:59 PM
What Is Real?

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Originally posted by jrh7r9
The Human brain is the most complex system in the universe. In fact, a single protein 100 amino acids long has more complexity(variations of monomers) than there are atoms in the universe. I'm sure a brain, made of trillions of proteins that are each on average 1000 amino acids long, could do pretty much anything it was designed to do, Including comunicate without known language.

Then again, maybe I'm just silly.

ok first your whole comment is wrong because how do you know howmany atoms exist in the universe?

Seccond, the real question here is weather or not you can share a dream with a person as if they were realy there in reallife correct?

If this is the question then it is not possible, because dreams are simply made by that one person and thier thoughts. The gimmik to "plan a dream session" just makes it to where you both create a dream about one another at the same day, therefor is SEEMS like you shared a dream.

Now of course if you know some one well enough you can create them exactly how they would act in reallife in your dream, but please note this is not thier PHYSICAL brain talking to you, but its your brain talking to itself. Although this cannont be proven to NOT work it has never been proven to happen.
For instance no one has been able to say a 10 digit code in a dream to another person and have them wake up and know the code.
I am 99.999999% positive that 2 people cannot connect while sleeping and carry on a two brain dream(this is infact how i interpreted the question)