Become a dv.com member, Click here to register!
    • Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 7 of 7

    Thread: placebo effect

    1. 03-02-2009 09:31 PM #1
      dreamingofdreaming
      dreamingofdreaming is offline
      of dreaming dreamingofdreaming's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2009
      LD Count
      6 WILD 29 DILD
      Gender
      Location
      My Brain and sometimes the Pac-NW
      Posts
      517
      Likes
      5

      placebo effect

      Ok i'm sure this has been discussed several times before but here's my dilemma.....


      Last night I was in a very fuzzy/hazy dream room when suddenly I thought "I'm dreaming" and I immedietly went to fly (my reality check) but then i got really fuzzy so I rubbed my hands to stabilize and it worked for a second but then I woke up ( i was probably near the end of my dream anyways)

      My question is if stablizing technices i.e. spinning, hand rubbing are simply a placebo effect in your mind. Like, we read on here that it will help so your convinced it will, so when you try it in a dream it works.

      But last night I started thinking while I was rubbing my hands that it's probably just a placebo effect and I woke up. Now i'm worried that I've "convinced" my mind that its' only "in my mind" that it will work and now I"ve lost my stabilizing tecniques.

      Any suggestions or similar experiences. Ask me to clarify if this is a little confusing

      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    2. 03-02-2009 09:43 PM #2
      hellohihello
      PapuaNewGuinea hellohihello is offline
      q t pi
      Join Date
      Dec 2008
      LD Count
      90009
      Gender
      Location
      Paraguay
      Posts
      1,897
      Likes
      24
      DJ Entries
      5
      It isn't a placebo because you are taking your mind off your sleeping body Make sure you reality check when you wake up. I had plenty of lucids where the stabilization failed and I was still dreaming.
      if you can read this then you are about to be punched
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    3. 03-17-2009 06:23 AM #3
      lucidspark64
      lucidspark64 is offline
      Newbie lucidspark64's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      Gender
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      363
      Likes
      1
      the spinning and rubbing hands together are just to help you "feel" the dream by doing this it's easier to remain in something just by feeling it.

      it helps me to just focus on something like a tree and admire the detailed twigs and leaves and the sunshine. example of seeing in the dream.

      i think it's just a way of stimulating one of your senses. your mind really thinks it's happening, so it's gonna feel it but your consciousness is i would say smarter than your brain in lucid dreams since you know its a dream, your biological mind doesn't. i guess it's like a trade. you convince your mind how realistic some things are and in return, it helps you not wake up.

      that's just my guess but yeah. to put it short, i don't think it's a placebo because your convincing your mind it's all real.

      ah nevermind forget i said anything.
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    4. 03-21-2009 01:33 AM #4
      inyourdreams
      inyourdreams is offline
      Lucid Onieronaut inyourdreams's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2009
      Gender
      Posts
      125
      Likes
      0
      Rubbing hands causes dream sensation, which makes it harder for the mind to switch perception from the dream world to the regular world.
      "Of course my life isn't a nightmare! At least you can become lucid in a nightmare."
      -Original quote by me
      LDs: 6... not bad...
      Dance with a barcode: Pending
      ATHEISTS, UNITE!!!!
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    5. 03-21-2009 03:12 AM #5
      DarkLucideity
      DarkLucideity is offline
      Member
      Join Date
      Feb 2008
      Posts
      666
      Likes
      21
      Everything in dreaming is the placebo effect. It's also the only thing that holds people back from constant LDs.
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    6. 03-23-2009 02:47 AM #6
      TunaSammich
      TunaSammich is offline
      Formerly Known As Member
      Join Date
      Mar 2009
      Gender
      Posts
      129
      Likes
      0
      I think what you are having is a reverse placebo effect (is there such a thing?). These dream stabilizing techniques are (from what I understand) done to generate a large amount of input from your dream self, causing your brain to stay in that state, rather then going to the physical state. By convincing yourself these techniques are bogus (consciously or not) they become bogus. So, next time you do it, also remember that they actually work, and are not just placebos.
      On LD hiatus. Probably will start again around new years.

      Or, you know -- randomly throughout this year and next.
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    7. 03-23-2009 06:31 AM #7
      lucidspark64
      lucidspark64 is offline
      Newbie lucidspark64's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2008
      Gender
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      363
      Likes
      1
      yeah i guess i would agree it is a placebo in your dreams because your mind seems to think everything is real. becoming lucid and stablizing your dream is like you giving your mind a dose of the placebo.

      what the hell is consciousness anyway though. your conscious meets your subconscious. like multitasking, it is your mind.
      Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  
    « Previous Thread | Next Thread »

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  

    Forum Rules