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      Out of Body Experience Improves Control

      I'm not lucid, though maybe a bit in the back of my mind. I'm fighting an evil guy and I grab him. Then it goes into 3rd person view as I squeeze the evil guy. Black Tendrils come out of the evil guy to squeeze me but I decide it's ineffective. Then I visualize a cartoon, bird's eye view, of the setting and imagine the evil guy exploding from being squeezed. I decide that the explosion kills everyone in the area outside but I also decide that I have a bubble shield to protect myself. Then I'm in first person view again and everyone has disappeared, which means the explosion and shield worked! Also, I chose not to be hurt by the tendrils. I became fully lucid after this experience.
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      If by lucid you mean aware, then you are always aware to some extent or another when dreaming. If you are not aware, you can't be aware of it!

      I'm not surprised to hear of 3rd-person perception preceding lucidity, detachment in any way can help increase awareness.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Why did you decide that third person dreaming improves control? I agree with ClouD, we do control dreams to some extent. But accodring to my obvervations it doesn't matter if they're 1st or 3rd person when we're exercising this kind of control.

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      By lucid I mean being aware that dreaming. By being partially lucid I mean I intuitively felt it was a dream and exerted dream control but didn't consciously think: Oh, I'm dreaming.

      The third person view may have helped me chose to not be harmed by the tendrils but maybe it didn't help much.
      The main control was visualizing everyone disappearing from an explosion and then being alone. The visualization was similar to closing my eyes for a second and then opening them and having something be different. The visualization was also like an out of body experience because it was a birds eye view of the scene though cartoonish.

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      Yes I know what you mean, your additional explanations made me sure that we're talking about the same thing.

      However I still stand by my opinion that it isn't limited to 3rd person and that 3rd person is in no way superior when it comes to control. I myself do it in 1st person as frequently as in 3rd person, as far as my dream-memories tell me. It's just as easy, for example you feel like you dislike something and rewind the situation to the start to make it happen again, but this time you act differently (all of it in 1st person).

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