Thread: I'm always partially lucid instead of completly lucid

There are only lucid dreams or non lucid dreams, no in between. Either you know you are dreaming or you do not, if you know you are dreaming it is lucid. Controlling a dream is only part of lucid dreaming.

But I suggest that you try to spin, look at your hands, or take a clarity pill to help.

yeah as long as you realize your dreaming at any point in the dream, then congratulations you had a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by JamesLD

yeah as long as you realize your dreaming at any point in the dream, then congratulations you had a lucid dream.

cool, I started this thread last night, and I had an LD this morning.

Originally Posted by Bizarre Jester

cool, I started this thread last night, and I had an LD this morning.

Congrats, did you have any control in this lucid dream?

Originally Posted by Sugarglider11

There are only lucid dreams or non lucid dreams, no in between. Either you know you are dreaming or you do not, if you know you are dreaming it is lucid. Control a dream is only part of lucid dreaming.

But I suggest that you try to spin, look at your hands, or take a clarity pill to help.

It's a complicated one isn't it, im not sure i completely agree.

Sure you either know you are dreaming or you are not, and yes that is the simplest definition of lucidity.
However, lucidity is a word interchangeable for conscious or awareness, and i'm sure everyone can agree there are many levels or forms of awareness.

Knowing one is dreaming is a very complicated subject, and it is the depth of that awareness that relates directly to the depth of understanding of what that awareness means.

Knowing one is dreaming, but still running from the dream monsters in a nightnare is perfectly possible. It's a low level of awareness, you only grasp the very tip of the iceberg of what "its a dream" means.

KNowing one is dreaming, but realising that the monsters cant hurt you, is another level to that awareness.

Knowing one is dreaming, but realising that the monsters don't exist, are pure hallucination and are aspects of your own mind, is another level again.


From the dream diarys of the many users of DreamViews, its clear enough that lucidity is a spectrum of awareness varying from one dream to the next.

I myself have had a huge variety of awareness in my lucid dreams, ranging from the simplest most basic lucidity, to a deep philosophical awareness that is mind boggling.

It is one thing to know something ("i am dreaming"), it is another thing to comprehend and understand it to a deep level.

I'd say if you want to define lucid dreaming as "knowing you are dreaming" that's fine, it's a good basic definition, but it is a simple definition of a very complicated spectrum of states of mind.

The more your awareness rises with the seed of knowing that you are dreaming, the more "lucid/aware" you become, the more control over the dream you should obtain.

That's my opinion anyhow.

Originally Posted by Sugarglider11

Congrats, did you have any control in this lucid dream?

Not really, I tried to spawn someone (two attempts) and it didn't work. It also only lasted a couple of minutes if that. However I was in some sort of a shopping mall, and it was very fun. I'm not trying to be graphic but I was about to have sex and I woke up instead.

I know that their are many different levels of awareness in lucid dreams but they are still lucids, and when you don't know you are dreaming you are not lucid. There are many different qualities of lucid dreams but as long as you know you are dreaming its lucid. I'm pretty sure in all of your examples you mentioned that the person was aware it was a dream.

All I was trying to say was that there are no semi-lucid dreams.

Jester, you could try to call the person up on a phone or expect to see them around the corner or behind a closed door. I have summoned dcs before by opening a door.

I guess I agree a little bit with everybody. Lucid dreaming in a nutshell is being aware that you are dreaming. However, your dream being vivid and having full control of it, seems to be more lucid then having monsters chase you around.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

It's a complicated one isn't it, im not sure i completely agree.

Sure you either know you are dreaming or you are not, and yes that is the simplest definition of lucidity.
However, lucidity is a word interchangeable for conscious or awareness, and i'm sure everyone can agree there are many levels or forms of awareness.

I agree.

I also want to bring up the point that lucidity does NOT equal dream control! So you can be 100% lucid and yet still have problems with dream control. Or you can be controlling your dream, but not consciously aware you're dreaming.

So just because you are having a lucid nightmare, or not able to control a dream, doesn't mean you're not lucid.

Another genius post by spaceexplorer.

Originally Posted by Naiya

I also want to bring up the point that lucidity does NOT equal dream control! So you can be 100% lucid and yet still have problems with dream control. Or you can be controlling your dream, but not consciously aware you're dreaming.

So just because you are having a lucid nightmare, or not able to control a dream, doesn't mean you're not lucid.

^ Absolutely agree with Naiya too. Well said

Try actually verbalizing that you are dreaming. Yell out loud "I'm dreaming" or tell a DC that you're dreaming, that should help assert yourself as lucid. You brain is resisting because it doens't yet understand.