i believe the fact that i can't catch her proves no, and part of my whole schpeal asked any other more experienced LDers if they had any uncooperative selective controls or if they had any ideas why my control would be selective. |
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I have been able to have LD's for 5 years, i can tell i'm dreaming, wake up and have near perfect recall without writing, i can fly, i can manipulate fire, but i have two dreams i cannot control, both involving "the one that got away". The only thing i can compare it to, and i hope a few people hear have read at least twilight, is a Bella type dream, set in the woods or somewhere else remote, she stands in my peripheral vision and i turn to look at her but she just moves with me, i can tell its her because i can even smell her. The other i'm running after her and she looks back at me smiling, i try to reach her but she speeds up. There's no physical limitations i can even chase her up a tree, but never catch her. And i don't even wake up from aggrevation or excitement, i wake up naturally. Any thoughts or ideas or possibly other stories of selective lack of control? |
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i believe the fact that i can't catch her proves no, and part of my whole schpeal asked any other more experienced LDers if they had any uncooperative selective controls or if they had any ideas why my control would be selective. |
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You cannot control her because she is sentient being. Communicate with her instead. |
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ya gwan fok wid de Baron? ye gotta nodda ting comin. (Formerly known as Baking Nomad.)
so your saying that because i consciously know her feelings in real life that i can't even have her in my dreams. because the definition is (responsive to or conscious of sense impressions) i find that rather irritating |
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Because of your poor grammar, I don't completely understand what you're saying. I apologize if English is your second language. |
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ya gwan fok wid de Baron? ye gotta nodda ting comin. (Formerly known as Baking Nomad.)
English is my first language, as for my grammar, I just wasn't writing like I was in English class. And if we are misunderstanding each other it's because I don't know how to word everything correctly here. |
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"Sentient being"? Just because a DC is not responding positively to dream control does not make it 100% a spirit or anything magical. Your idea that your sleeping mind just remembers her feelings towards you, and therefore her DC is responding as how you think she would respond to you in real life sounds like what probably is happening in my opinion. If you just want to talk to her...have you tried asking? Maybe offer to show her some cool tricks that you described in your first post? |
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Last edited by LucidApprentice; 06-02-2010 at 08:46 AM.
Lucid dreams since joining:
DILD: 7
WILD: 3
DEILD: 1
Thanks for the clarification. |
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ya gwan fok wid de Baron? ye gotta nodda ting comin. (Formerly known as Baking Nomad.)
I'm a bit more skeptical when it comes to the "shared dream" idea (though I'm not 100% opposed to it). I'm not discounting Nomad's idea, but it's more likely that she is one of your dream characters. How often does she show up? Do you usually summon her or does she just appear? |
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"If there was one thing the lucid dreaming ninja writer could not stand, it was used car salesmen."
I will answer Amé's questions in order. |
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She could be your DG. Ask her to show her face mabye? |
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Hgld1234 wuz here!
My dream goals
Complete a ToTM [] Hypnotize a DC [] Summon a DC [X] Teleport [X] Play with fire []
I think that regardless of whether you are sharing a dream with the real-life "her" or she is just a defiant DC, you should stop attempting to will her. If she is sentient, than this simply won't work although you may be able to alter the shared dream and slow her down, maybe by making brick walls appear in front of her. Lots of options here. But if you are willing to accept the possibility that this is her, and you two keep falling into the same dream, you probably shouldn't go too far here. If she is a DC, which most people would find easier to believe, you obviously aren't having luck with your current methods. Perhaps there's just a mental block here. Whatever the case, try to reason with her. She must just be faster. |
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The questions I posed were, I hope, food for thought. I don't know your dreams as well as you do, so I didn't know if those were things you'd considered. At any rate, it's interesting how there are little things that we don't/can't control that make us feel like we have no control at all. Your options really are just to either continue to pursue her, or let her be. You can still talk to her even if she doesn't want you to catch her. It's your dream. Say what you want. See what happens. |
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"If there was one thing the lucid dreaming ninja writer could not stand, it was used car salesmen."
If i were you i would just sit there and watch her run away. I would say "Hi" to her. Try to speak to her but if she doesn't want to just stop trying. She may or may not be a sentient beeing but the fact is that the two of you are in the same dream and you shouldn't try to force her come to you.If you know where she lives or if you used toy meet somewhere(judging by the fact that you love her) go there and wait for her. Or you can simply go take a walk and use your feelings to lure her in. In most of my dreams feelings are the most important things and if you really love her it shouldn't be difficult to talk to her, find her. Just project your feelings onto her and she should understand that you love her. |
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What I mean is that if you consider it could be the "waking life" her, which I understand can be a stretch in some cases, you certainly wouldn't want to do anything to her dream self that you wouldn't to her waking self. Just be careful in the things you do to try and catch her. It doesn't seem like she reacts well to your attempts to catch her anyway, so it really seems that you should change your tactics. Don't chase her. Make her come to you, try and work your charm on her, etc. Or maybe go somewhere in the dream world you have seen her in the waking world and see if she isn't there waiting for you. |
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Okay. For a second I thought you meant I wouldn't go far on this board and with DL's just because of this stubborn DC. The fact is that this is the only dream I can't control, but still have the recognition I'm dreaming. |
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Don't chase her. Don't ask for a response from her. When you sense her presence, just do something. Like say, start cooking her breakfast. Start telling a story or joke. Start doing something cool leaving her the option to join you, but without feeling like she has to. Don't demand a response. |
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Last edited by theandresanchez; 07-08-2010 at 04:02 AM.
I would try a passive approach. Wanting something to much in a dream can definately get in the way. Trying your hardest to out run a beast for example, usually ends up with the feeling that your wading through mud or something. So maybe you can just say "ok you win, let's take a break from playing tag for now", then turn around and just accept that she will follow. |
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(\_/) Just because the voices aren't real....
(O.o)
(> <) ....doesnt mean they dont have good ideas:
ok where i am its 3:30 am and i just thought of this site so tomorrow i will update everyone on the progress |
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Time keeping is essential to dream weaving.IF you want something, go get it. |
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shoot a web like spiderman and pull her to you |
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I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride
Dream and reality there is always the distance. But as long as willing to try could become reality. I do not think that "you think too much". Have a dream in life is good. |
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