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      05/26/2011 - A deep journey to death and beyond.

      This was added to dreamviews on the 26-27/05/11, and the dream took place on the night of the 25-26/05/11. I hope people enjoy this.


      Okay then, this one is a bit of a journey. From the start, this dream was what I refer to as a MAD, or Mild Awareness dream. Basically, I am aware that I am dreaming, so I am lucid, however I would rather be along for the ride and see what my mind produces for a journey, so don't expect me to play maker and take control... I find it more fun this way... Although I will occasionally skip an event to progress the story quicker (an example being at the start of the dream I summon a drink rather than ask for one so that I can get to what someone has to say to progress the dream) As a disclaimer, I am personally an agnostic atheist, and I hope no theists find the content in this dream offensive. It was nothing but a journey, don't take it as me trying to change your views That said, how about we get into it?

      Our dream begins, as many do, in a room filled with people. I am aware that we are here for some major purpose, and take in my surroundings. The atmosphere is tense. Some people are chanting in a corner. Another corner sees people praying. A family huddles together. I realise that I am in what was a bar, but is clearly a more important place than just that for tonight. I approach the barkeep, and materialise a drink in my hand. We exchange niceties, and I get an urge to ask him how much I owe him for the drink.

      "Money won't be a problem now, will it?" he replies, chuckling and adding "It's on the house mate."

      He pours himself a drink and I follow along, not wanting to seem like I don't know what is going on.

      "Everything is set to change, aye?"
      "Aye."
      "What do you think will happen?"
      "No clue. It will be an adventure, that's for sure. I might not be religious, but I am holding out for an afterlife."


      This piques my interest. Afterlife? I am starting to understand why we are here. Something is going to cause our deaths, I am now certain of it. I continue to play along, I don't want this DC to die thinking his last discussion was with a fool, and a lot can be gleaned from how people reply.

      "Still, do you think we might have it quick at least?" I ask him.
      "Aye. Guess it was a great idea setting up my pub in the city, it should explode right above us."

      I now know there is conflict of some sort, but I am interested in finding out more.

      "I'm generally out bush, so I guess I picked the right time to come to town!"
      "Aye, I feel for your mates still out there. The fallout would be a worse way to go, I reckon."
      "You think?"
      "Yeah, at least we will most likely be vaporised. A nuke will do that for you."


      I'm growing to like this publican DC. From him I know we are about to be nuked, and will no doubt die quickly. I don't know what part of my psyche he represents, but his words were soothing. I was going to continue talking, when suddenly there was a hush. I turned to the corner where the TV had been, something I hadn't noticed until now. It was now showing the old snowstorm ants, and this clearly worried some. A child cried. I turn to the publican.

      "It's begun."
      "Aye. That would be Sydney being hit, signal was from their studios."
      "What now?"
      "Should happen any moment now. Not going to hide from the bastards though. Have at me!"


      The publican downs his drink and sprints out the glass doors of the pub, laughing like a madman. I guess the whole world was mad at that point. I took a peek through the door and noticed something that stood out. The streets were... quiet. Films make you think there would either be anarchy or panic... But there wasn't... People seemed resigned to their fate, only tense over when it would come. This touched me, as I was lucid enough to know that my mind sees humanity as having potential to mature in time... Then things changed.

      The next set of events happened over a few seconds. The air was filled with a light, a light like one has never seen. I knew this would be the beginning of something immense, I only didn't know what form it would take. Death is something I have experienced in dreams and waking hallucinations, many times, and it is always a different feeling. This one fascinated me... The light didn't surround me like in films, there was no tunnel so to speak. It was to be very different from most dream deaths I have felt.

      Things around me disintegrated... At first I thought it was the bomb tearing apart the world around me, that I had erected a dream shield. But then I knew my dream survival instinct hadn't kicked in, and it was a death I was experiencing. Items vanished around me, being replaced by a simple whiteness... It felt like hours but I knew it was only seconds, even in the dream. I decided to stop fighting the sensation, and absorbed myself into the form.

      I then felt a tug, a gravitational pull... The only thing I can compare it to is when I threw myself out of a 30ft tall tree (I was young and foolish, don't judge. I landed safely too, only minor bruising )... I gave into this pull, and knew that this death would not see ressurection, reversal, non existance or awakening from the dream. I was on my way to an afterlife

      I found myself in a cavern, with no notable features, no high or low temperature, no wind, no moisture but not dry, just an eerily still cavern. I looked around and saw people, although I didn't see them. I saw beings, if I focused on them I could see them, but they were people I didn't know and quickly faded out of my memory. I knew for certain that I was not in any of the traditional afterlife locations, but the closest one I could think of comparing this to would be one of the outer circles of hell, or perhaps purgatory in Abrahamic religions, or an Asphodel Meadows where I retained individual thought. I felt that I may wander in this cavern until I awake from my dream, and I wanted to progress it, so I willed an event, a meeting. I willed a discussion with whatever power controlled the region.

      Oddly enough, my opinion of a realistic Satan answered my call. He appeared before me, a being without form or manner, merely existence. I was interested in knowing why my view of Satan was to appear in this version of the afterlife, and willed a responce (sorry, I don't like starting discussions with gods or demons in dreams, I feel a bit awkward about talking without being spoken to ).

      "You hadn't finished your work," was the simple response. "Here you may complete your tasks."
      "And what were my tasks?"
      "Fulfillment of your goals. Attaining peace. Finding an understanding, finding a reality to adopt."
      "And how will I find it here?"
      "You will exist. You will feel an urge to complete tasks, quests, from the supernatural to the real, comedic, realistic and tragic. You will experience reality and unreality and continue doing things until you finish your work."
      "How will I know when I have finished?"
      "You will know."
      "And what do I do until then? Just, what, stuff?"
      "Pretty much."
      "Why would I do this?"
      "What alternative do you have?"


      I couldn't deny the logic in that, and so I dismissed the presence. I wandered for a few hours around the cavern, until I stumbled on a familiar face. It was Catherine, a friend of mine I talk to almost daily in spite of having not seen her for 3 or so years. Unlike the beings I saw before, she was perfectly defined, not like a DC but like a real human. I sat down next to her and put my head in her lap. She started stroking my hair and we just had a peaceful moment. I finally chose to talk.

      "Here too are we?"
      "Seems that way... Hey, at least we get to catch up again."
      "Makes for a pretty sucky date though, I woulda given you better if I could. Hell, you woulda gotten all the Mi Goreng in the world"
      (there is a running joke that we have that we are so perfectly suited to the other that if we were to have a relationship it would be the greatest the world would ever know. Yes, we are that deep in the friendzone, but back to the dream. The Mi Goreng is also a running joke, suppoesdly the only condition for me to marry her would to be able to keep a pantry stocked with it... We are both students that blow what money we have on flying, me as a hobby and she as setting up her future career - Ed)
      "Could be worse. At least we have all the time in the world."
      "That we do Cat."


      We stay there a few more hours, and somehow end up in each others arms. Nothing romantic, we just... We are. We coexist. We share each other's existance. I finally ask her how she died.

      "You weren't caught up in the bombing were you?"
      "No, I've been here a few more hours in living time than you, I guess... It's felt like weeks though... My father and I were out driving, just killing time before our time was killed, and we ran off the road. Tree. Quick. Painless. I arrived here, I guess that we young ones have been left here to mature... Bloody oldies, they had the better music, the better laws, and now they get the better afterlife!"
      "Hey, am I all that bad?"
      "Well, I guess there are plus sides of being left here."
      "So what do we do here? Any ideas?"
      "Just chill I guess. At least we have our memories. We aren't in pain. No torture like the crazies say. Nothing like that... I've had urges to recover things from other caverns, but I've resisted, I felt like waiting here I might meet someone I wanted to... And those caves looked like they might lead to injury... I think that we can still feel pain here, even if we don't die again."
      "Did you though?"
      "What?"
      "Find someone you wanted to?"
      "You're a cheeky bugger, you know that right? Yeah, I found someone"

      ...
      "I'm glad you are here, you've made me a lot happier since you arrived."
      "Thanks Cat."


      We just went back to holding each other in quiet contemplation. Later on we got up and wandered around for a while, wandered through the caverns, but there was no one who we recognised, so we went back to lying together. We simply held each other until the dream faded out, and that was that.

      Throughout this whole thing I was struck by the detail in Catherine's appearance, DCs generally aren't that defined, even DCs that I know real world versions of... I guess that people can theorise why this was as they wish. I was also interested by this form of afterlife, often death leads to me being in a dream state, but experiencing nothing, like I had left existence and could ponder the dream. Other times I am reincarnated in some form, this has led to interesting events (like walking through my grandparents house 5 years before it was even built in reality, with their car that was yet to even be designed in reality in the driveway). This one was odd, in that it seemed that the afterlife was more a side life, a message of some sort, not the traditional symbolism thing, but more a problem solving excercise... Any input is appreciated.


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      That was a wonderful dream, and extremely well written.

      BTW, glad to see another fellow airman around

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      how much experience do you have with Dream Recall? it's unbelievable that you remembered those conversations word for word.

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      Wow! That was very well written!! Did you fill in a lot of the dialogue, or did you remember everything almost word for word?? Your conversation with Satan was really interesting, that's incredible that he said that word for word! What are some of your dream recall techniques??

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      Quote Originally Posted by TomcatMVD View Post
      That was a wonderful dream, and extremely well written.

      BTW, glad to see another fellow airman around
      Ahahaha thanks, I try, I rarely share dreams but those that I share, I hope are entertaining.

      And it is always good to see another airman All my mates are at their CPLs or ATPLs, but I couldn't pursue a military career because of my health, and with it prohibitively expensive I fear I shall not progress past my PPLs... But I might try and get at least my CPLs, and get some ratings as well to free up what I can do

      Quote Originally Posted by Rivernile View Post
      how much experience do you have with Dream Recall? it's unbelievable that you remembered those conversations word for word.
      My experience with dream recall is a bit odd, and a bit hard to explain. If it is okay I would like to refrain from posting my method here and now, because I am still struggling to find the words for it (this will make sense when I explain it). So please be patient for a few days/weeks, I have exams soon, but hope to get my method posted before them to help anyone who might be on my wavelength so to speak.

      Quote Originally Posted by TCCdude708 View Post
      Wow! That was very well written!! Did you fill in a lot of the dialogue, or did you remember everything almost word for word?? Your conversation with Satan was really interesting, that's incredible that he said that word for word! What are some of your dream recall techniques??
      As mentioned above, I would like to hold back on publishing my methods here. I would however like to state that yes, those words were at least the words I felt in my dream (more on that when I post my method), and I can reproduce them. This isn't the case for all dreams at all times, but is the case for some dreams at all times and most dreams at some times... Grrr, this is hard to explain, stay tuned over the next month or so for a much longer post in an appropriate sub forum going through my method Just please have faith in it for now
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      I await the explanation, from the sounds of it it's really something special
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      Quote Originally Posted by sinemac View Post
      Ahahaha thanks, I try, I rarely share dreams but those that I share, I hope are entertaining.

      And it is always good to see another airman All my mates are at their CPLs or ATPLs, but I couldn't pursue a military career because of my health, and with it prohibitively expensive I fear I shall not progress past my PPLs... But I might try and get at least my CPLs, and get some ratings as well to free up what I can do
      It was certainly entertaining!

      About your Pilot career: Keep powering through. Try to watch the "Speed & Angels" documentary and listen to the story about the F-14 pilot who wouldn't get accepted in the NAVY because of a firearm accident he once had... his efforts are truly inspiring.
      I'm a green PP right now... I'll start working through my IFR rating shortly and then try to get my CPL... I really want to make a career out of this... we'll see. Clear skies mate!

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      ya it reminds me of a dream where i played ten chess moves. when i woke up i didnt remember them, i just felt them like you say, a sort of natural visualization. Anyways thx 4 ur response!!

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      Really well written, I was really impressed by how you remembered all those conversations.

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      Thank you for sharing this. I shed a tear by the end, but I guess that's just me.

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      Hey Sinemac, I just posted my first dream on this forum, and although it hasnt been approved by an admin yet (therefore not yet in the threads), I will paste it on here because I found that your dream gave me a very similar feeling to the dream I had two nights ago. However, my dream was much shorter. Also I'd like to say that I'm of no religion, I'm an somewhere between an agnostic and an agnostic theist. Tell me what you think...

      Okay, so this one night, I decide to sleep on my couch in my living room as my room was a bit too hot to sleep in, plus I wanted to see if I could have a lucid by sleeping somewhere else.

      *Enter Dream*

      So I'm in my high school. Everything looks normal, except there are no people but this one friend of mine. So he tells me to follow him. Then he charges down the hallway and I run after him and he opens the door to one of the classrooms and goes inside. I follow him and when I open the door instead of there being a classroom there was a very long narrow hallway. So I follow my friend down the long hallway and he gets to the other side before me and I lose sight of him.
      As I get to the other side, I enter this interior mall setting where I'm in one of the hallways in the mall and stores all around. But the thing was, all the stores were closed. Around me were people sitting on the floor and benches, similar to the way you would see people in the middle of the night in an airport waiting for their morning plane, all sleeping on the benches or looking very tired and with their luggages next to them (to get a feeling for the atmosphere, a good example would be the movie "Spirited Away" in which Chihiro is on the train around the faceless, characterless strangers that look like lost spirits, that kind of atmostphere ) There is also this one lady in her late 50's that looked like a cafeteria food serving lady standing behind a table.
      Realizing the strangeness of my surroundings (but not to the point where I suspect it is a dream), I walk up to the lady and ask "Hey, how the heck do I get out of here?? There are no windows and no exit doors and everything seems closed." The lady looks at me with the same indifferent face she had before I ever walked up to her and says:
      "There is no way out. This is Purgatory."

      *The dream then fades away*

      As I wake up, the only thing I can think is "Wait a second....! What the hell is this dream supposed to mean??"
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      That was intense.

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      This dream is a keeper good luck


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      Entertaining, great dream.

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