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      I need some help figuring out these dreams.

      I have these dreams that I call sci-fis, & people won't quit telling me that they are not dreams(I totally disagree!). Well, here is 1 example(if you want more, visit my dream journalhttp://nesgirl119.bravejournal.com/)
      I was just trying to get into an LD in a midmorning nap using my usual technique, but I got impatient, started to try to force myself up, & shook violently. It starts off kind of like a false awakening, except that I am in my white robe (usually in these dreams, that can happen), & my unconscious duplicate is in that bed, no doubt (truely a dream if there are 2 of me, b/c my duplicate is dressed in the same PJs I put on). I head into the kitchen of my friends, & note that they are talking about The Best 2 Years. I want to say something, but I know very well that they will just act like that I am not there if I try. Then I fly through the ceiling, & out of the house towards Crescent View. I don't really pay any attention to the lesson..I am just happy to be there. When I finally realize that my friend would probably try to wake me up soon (& the only way to wake up from one of these dreams is to return to the bedroom you are currently sleeping in), so I hurry back to her bed. I wake up peaceful.[/url]

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      You made this sound like a lucid dream.. was it?

      I did look at your website and noticed you tend to have "sci-fi" dreams very often..? From a psychological perspective, I would say that this is the subconscious wish fulfillment - that your dreams are projecting what you wish would happen in real life. The majority of time this happens is because there are certain aspects in the real life which the person cannot fully comprehend. In fact, when faced with this interpretation, the immediate reaction would most likely be absolute denial and frustration, "That's not true!!". This reaction further illustrates how the frustration of wish denial correlates to the desire for a different life style - or a life free of stress. I would commonly guess that the dreams show a kernel of social anxiety; as the individual becomes further detached from society, they will emmerse themselves in fantasies. These fantasies are emulated to the individual's personal wishes and desires of the life they want. A Freudian would say that this is high potential for hysteria. However, a Maslowe follower may say that the person is very amibtious. Depends on your opinion..

      So, do you recall many dreams that arn't lucid? These are the keys to understanding your unconscious.

      Also, I am curious of a few things that I could not find out on the website:
      How old are you?
      I'm assuming you are female from your nickname, right?
      Are you happy with your family & social life? (Life at school?)

      The dream you described (if it wasn't lucid) I would best interpret as depicting your desires in contrast to your social life (ie. school). But I can't really tell much more than this. This is mostly because I'm not sure if it was lucid or not.

      In addition, the fantasy of lucid dreams may also be significantly fabricated in order to fulfill these desires. However, I am not accusing you, nesgirl119, of fabrication. Just remember that you may unconsciously fabricate your dreams - your unconscious may interfere with the true self. I am curious if you think this is at all relevant to you? Because the case does lead to delusions of grandeur.

      I look forward to reading your answers,
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      Originally posted by O'nus
      You made this sound like a lucid dream.. was it?

      I did look at your website and noticed you tend to have \"sci-fi\" dreams very often..? From a psychological perspective, I would say that this is the subconscious wish fulfillment - that your dreams are projecting what you wish would happen in real life. The majority of time this happens is because there are certain aspects in the real life which the person cannot fully comprehend. In fact, when faced with this interpretation, the immediate reaction would most likely be absolute denial and frustration, \"That's not true!!\". This reaction further illustrates how the frustration of wish denial correlates to the desire for a different life style - or a life free of stress. I would commonly guess that the dreams show a kernel of social anxiety; as the individual becomes further detached from society, they will emmerse themselves in fantasies. These fantasies are emulated to the individual's personal wishes and desires of the life they want. A Freudian would say that this is high potential for hysteria. However, a Maslowe follower may say that the person is very amibtious. Depends on your opinion..

      So, do you recall many dreams that arn't lucid? These are the keys to understanding your unconscious.

      Also, I am curious of a few things that I could not find out on the website:
      How old are you?
      I'm assuming you are female from your nickname, right?
      Are you happy with your family & social life? (Life at school?)

      The dream you described (if it wasn't lucid) I would best interpret as depicting your desires in contrast to your social life (ie. school). But I can't really tell much more than this. This is mostly because I'm not sure if it was lucid or not.

      In addition, the fantasy of lucid dreams may also be significantly fabricated in order to fulfill these desires. However, I am not accusing you, nesgirl119, of fabrication. Just remember that you may unconsciously fabricate your dreams - your unconscious may interfere with the true self. I am curious if you think this is at all relevant to you? Because the case does lead to delusions of grandeur.

      I look forward to reading your answers,
      ~
      Yes, I do know that I am dreaming....but answer me this....Why in these dreams is there a duplicate who is wearing my PJs that is always unconsious? I cannot answer that....& also, I cannot answer the reason of why I am in a white robe, & feel as light as an astronaut in outer space....& why do I always end up waking up when I crash into my duplicate? Here is one last example:
      I fly out of my room, feeling like I had to use a lot of pressure to escape the bed. Then I fly over to my nieces' house, not noticing any obsticles in my way. I see Syrena sleeping, then she starts to thrash. I say, hold on, your aunt is coming!! I somehow, end up in her dreams. It seems that she has had nightmares, & so I beat the crap out of them! When I am done, she said that I was her white robed hero aunty, & she continued her dream, but I was in her territory, so I had no control, but I was having fun with her anyways. I leave her dream, her house, & return to my bedroom (unsure why, but I am required to return to my sleep spot to wake up, or the dream is endless!)
      Oh, & what do I do to get her to quit calling me casper? That is bugging me, b/c I know it is a dream for several reasons!
      (1) There cannot be 2 of you in reality
      (2) You shouldn't feel like an astronaut, flying, but never landing
      (3) I haven't seen white robes at the stores, lately
      (4) It is impossible to fall through tables

      So I know that it is only a dream, even though people say that if the events I see during this dream happen at the exact same time, then it isn't a dream. It is, though, b/c I don't think people would intentionally ignore someone dressed that way.

      Well, about my information: I am a teenager

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      That sounds like an OOB (Out Of Body experience). Also known as Odd and Overused Bullshit. In my opinion, at least. Have you asked your niece if she actually had a nightmare and dreamt that you saved her that day?

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      Yea sounds like a lucid dream. You know what you should really try doing? Set your alarm for like an hour after the time you normally wake up. Then if you have one of them dreams, stay away from you room and do other stuff. I am sure you can find a lot of things to do. Sooner or later you will either wake up by yourself or wake up from the alarm. If not, theres a good chance you will hear the alarm inside your dream, and if you have to, you can go back to your room. If the alarm hasn't gone off in real life then that proves your mind is just playing tricks on you, if it is and you look at the time and your been sleeping with it on for 10 minutes, then maybe you have something.

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      Originally posted by Wicked
      That sounds like an OOB (Out Of Body experience). Also known as Odd and Overused Bullshit. In my opinion, at least. Have you asked your niece if she actually had a nightmare and dreamt that you saved her that day?

      Doubt it. Yes, she did have a nightmare, & yes, she did say that I was in a white robe, & she saw me in her dream, & the nightmares don't bother her anymore, b/c I went in there (with extreme caution, as I have no control in her LD) I told you that it started off kind of like a false awakening, but I flew to her house w/no gravity attached(felt kind of like an astronaut if you ask me). The only problem with that one is that I can never wake up unless I return to my nap spot, which really does sound like a dream. She knew that I was in her dream, but I was in her territory, & was kind of a person w/no control in her dream, but she did say that I was there. This is only one method of DSing that I have. This isn't 100% safe, as you could get into trouble if you don't wake yourself up b4 anyone gets into your room (almost got into trouble when my dad couldn't wake me up to take my meds, but woke myself up just in time by returning to my freakin' room)!
      These are mostly caused while I am in the SP mode, & if I try to struggle to get myself up? [what is that blue sash tied around my belly, interpreters[blue, not silver!])
      I really have had regular DSing experiences w/her(besides these sci-fi LDs), which are caused by a strong bond, 2 expert LDers(or LD sages) & a secret message. You both must say the same message in your LD simutaniously, which is very hard, & takes time!! At least in these ones, we both own the territory!

      I have tried the alarms b4, but they only work in my regular LDs, & not in these ones (I have to time myself to go back at the correct time, which is kind of easy, considering that it is the same time in these dreams as it is in regular dreams)
      PS: Tell my niece to quit calling 'dream me' Casper, b/c it really ticks me off !

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      Be like "If you call me that one more time I am going to sneak up on you when your not looking".

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      Originally posted by Alric
      Be like \"If you call me that one more time I am going to sneak up on you when your not looking\".
      LOL! Hey! I had another one like it just in aerobics. I drempt that I was watching for the aerobics teacher, but was kind of floating in the air...oh, & if you really want to have more of an experience, watch the last 2 minutes of Cody: http://us.share.geocities.com/nesgirl119/Cody.swf (it takes a while to load)
      The only problem with that is that I am in her territory, so she can do whatever she wants, but other than calling me Casper , she lets me hang out w/her, & do whatever I can do (I cannot eat anything in these dreams) in her dreams.

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      are you anorexic?.....

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      i am not much of a interperator

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      Originally posted by plobable
      i am not much of a interperator
      That is okay! At least you are not telling me that it is not a dream, like other people do. BTW, did you watch Cody? That might provide some answers....if there are any!

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      no i am at a hospital and the filter wont allow it :/

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      Originally posted by plobable
      no i am at a hospital and the filter wont allow it :/
      Well, then, I will give you some insight! Well, I arrive at the scene of this dream when Cody is screaming b/c he is scared of his duplicate (i.e. 2nd self). I tell him that this is only a dream, & I have a duplicate, too! I just tell him to fly w/me, & feel the peace, so we fly out of the house through the ceiling. We do, & as we do, Michelle greets us. I ask him how he likes the dream so far, & he likes it. Michelle says that it is not a dream (she thinks this, b/c time is 100% accurate to real time's). I tell her the certain reasons, & we argue about it being a dream, saying, "Is too!" "Is not!" Cody flies away, b/c he can't take the arguing. Strange thing is that we all drempt the exact same thing.

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      did you all dream it on the same night then..

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      Originally posted by plobable
      did you all dream it on the same night then..
      Yes, & at the exact same time! Also, we each have an unconscious duplicate, too! Also, events that happen in these dreams happen in actual time at the same time we see them happen! Needless to say that they are just dreams!

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      Thats unreal

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      Originally posted by plobable
      Thats unreal
      Yeah! That is what I'm trying to tell those dolts that don't think that they are dreams!
      Well, last night, I drempt that I flew out of my bedroom, & on my way back to my bedroom (4 hours later), it was raining, & the rain was going straight through me as if I was water vapor.
      Now tell me, it is a dream!

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      & also wizard, you know very well that they are dreams, b/c if they aren't, what else could they be?

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      you are so awesome nesgirl! guess what!, ive heard the soul is made of water vapor! were not going to get anywhere by arguing about it but what do you say we put our heads together and experiment to try and find whose right? we can even have a gentle men/womans bet !

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      Originally posted by Oath
      you are so awesome nesgirl! guess what!, ive heard the soul is made of water vapor! were not going to get anywhere by arguing about it but what do you say we put our heads together and experiment to try and find whose right? we can even have a gentle men/womans bet !
      Well, I know the soul is made out of matter, but that doesn't matter, considering it is only a dream anyways, right? Did you watch Cody?

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      Originally posted by nesgirl119+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nesgirl119)</div>
      <!--QuoteBegin-Oath
      you are so awesome nesgirl! guess what!, ive heard the soul is made of water vapor! were not going to get anywhere by arguing about it but what do you say we put our heads together and experiment to try and find whose right? we can even have a gentle men/womans bet !
      Well, I know the soul is made out of matter, but that doesn't matter, considering it is only a dream anyways, right? Did you watch Cody?[/b]
      What type of matter? I find it interesting that contemporary animists believe in souls but that they are a confluence of matter instead of a spiritual entity.

      Also, your sentence reminded me of Homer:

      "What is matter? Never mind. What is mind? Never matter."

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      Originally posted by O'nus+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(O'nus)</div>
      Originally posted by nesgirl119@
      <!--QuoteBegin-Oath

      you are so awesome nesgirl! guess what!, ive heard the soul is made of water vapor! were not going to get anywhere by arguing about it but what do you say we put our heads together and experiment to try and find whose right? we can even have a gentle men/womans bet !

      Well, I know the soul is made out of matter, but that doesn't matter, considering it is only a dream anyways, right? Did you watch Cody?
      What type of matter? I find it interesting that contemporary animists believe in souls but that they are a confluence of matter instead of a spiritual entity.

      Also, your sentence reminded me of Homer:

      \"What is matter? Never mind. What is mind? Never matter.\"[/b]
      That is just what we say in my religion, but I believe in that! Still, despite what any of you say, it is only a dream, especially the one I had last night. I got up out of bed, looked at my cat & duplicate, & did some meditating b4 returning to bed! Now that is a dream!

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      Pretty much, I expect that these sci-fis will remain unsolved 4ever, b/c people won't quit saying that they are not dreams, although I believe that they are. Also I tell them, If they aren't dreams, then what the heck are they?!

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      When you go out on these excursions, like say flying down your street, does everything always looke 100% realistic? Do you ever see things in the environment that could not be real? Everything you see in your neighborhood is completely accurate?

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      Originally posted by Jrels
      When you go out on these excursions, like say flying down your street, does everything always looke 100% realistic? Do you ever see things in the environment that could not be real? Everything you see in your neighborhood is completely accurate?
      Oh yeah! Even Disneyland looked 100% real. And one time, when I went BTB, it said 4:30. When I actually woke up 2 seconds later, it also said 4:30.

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