dream about Henry VIII

**shadowofwind** · 09-11-2013 03:43 AM

Last night I dreamed of 'Henry VIII'. Skimming the wikipedia article in the morning, it has some similarities with the historical Henry VIII. My dream depicted his last few hours, but I think they're symbolic of his last few years. In the dream his death wasn't entirely natural, he was poisoned, but it took a while for the the poison to do its work.

There are scenes where he is feasting, though he is already fat. I hope he will barf up the poison but he doesn't. His behavior is erratic. He has some artistic talent and composes a song. He runs across a road, falls down, and cries like a baby, as if insane. He performs well in some kind of croquet like sporting event in a woods, then he sits in a chair and falls over backwards like he is seriously ill. I can't point to anything particularly interesting or compelling about this dream, but I found it disturbing for some reason I don't understand. This is rare for me, I almost never have bad dreams, knock on wood, and I'm not even sure what's "bad" about this one.

Prior to the dream of Henry VIII, I had an abstract dream, the gist of which I was contrasting my temperament to another type of temperament. It seems to me that a lot of people define what they think is right in a way that's safe for them. For example hundreds of thousands of people work in the government 'security' apparatus, and it never occurs to them to take personal moral responsibility for their actions. They adopt a comfortable outlook, justify themselves in terms of what people around them are doing, follow the rules, and think about their pensions. I have a fair degree of contempt for such people, even though I don't think such contempt is justified. I don't like the injustices they tolerate and perpetrate, and don't want to live in that kind of world. But I also feel insecure because who I am is not accepted by them, and I take an aggressive stance because of my own feeling of inadequacy. The dream wasn't a condemnation of them so much as a positive affirmation of what I am, though to some extent one implies the other. Presumably this dream is related to the dream of Henry VIII somehow, though the connection isn't obvious to me.

**Superman1** · 09-11-2013 07:40 AM

GRAVE DISCOVERY
His grave was discovered earlier this year, in Feb.
Apparently something is poisoning you slowly, so you discover your 'grave.' And by your first dream it can be the content there. But maybe you do not realize this is happening, fully consciously.

The scenes of the recent years of your life may include trying to gain satisfaction from excess, instead of the right input. Maybe you did that to get rid of the poison. And can help explain why you can be erratic, though creative, and sometimes childish or insane. Maybe you perform best when it's quiet or away from noise and business of life.
Then suddenly you nearly drop dead or some poison suddenly hits you. So unless you feel you were at the end of your life in some way, something finally built up, which you saw.

FIRST DREAM of POISON
In the first dream you were aware of your temperament, comparing to another temperament that might be better.
Maybe it's about your security, how you are governing youself, and not taking responsibility for your actions.
Maybe you were projecting on others what you see in you. It normally happens like that.
So you may feel comfortable, and despise that you are doing what others are, obeying rules. And the contempt you feel is your poison.
The injustice in you. The resultant insecurity, about that. And therefore you do not accept who you are. The anger at such inadequecy.
But it was a positive affirmation of who you are, or who you want to be. So maybe it was that which was going into the grave. Your kingly self. The side of you that you want to rule you. You were comparing both sides of you.

Sorry, that all just came out how I see it. Seems I can't discuss these ideas without that it seems, and probably made you more angry!

**shadowofwind** · 09-11-2013 08:32 AM

Thanks Superman.

That's Richard III you're thinking of, not the same as the other character.

No, I wouldn't be angry at you for trying to help with your honest perspective. I described myself as being insecure and wrongly contemptuous of people, its not like I'm going to freak out if someone tries to discuss what I posted for public comment.

I'm not very creative, and I doubt anyone would describe me as being erratic or prone to excess, at least not in any conventional way such as with sex, food, alcohol, money, or work. Its not because I'm much of a rule follower though. For instance, I don't consume caffeine, but its not from following a moral code, its just because I see how my coworkers are with it and prefer the higher level of energy I have if I don't put my body into that kind of dependence. This doesn't mean your thought is wrong though, these things can take a lot of different forms. I'll think about it more.

**Superman1** · 09-11-2013 10:47 AM

I had searched Henry III's grave and I didn't read the results said Richard.

Still, his death still fits the dream.

Looks like I'm wrong on every point, shadowofwind.

A FEW OTHER OF MY CORRECTIONS::..
Probably just this aspect is erratic. All those traits are probably just pointing to this poison thing. So the creative bit might be how you tried to counter that and create harmony for yourself, perhaps, or be in tune, or express yourself in a more meaningfully joyful way - whatever a song means.Though you're not artistically creative, everyone creates in other ways.
And the excess, if I did see that right, would be just this issue too. Apparently that's why your dream chose this King. He was obese at the end. I didn't read the entire book on Wikipedia though.

I missed crossing the road can mean when you had to cross from one side or area to another, and that's where you fell down. Ahh, so another reason can be that King could not move around near the end.

POISON:
Also, I missed what may be the crucial point: Then he sits in a chair and falls over backwards like he is seriously ill. First you were playing well in nature, in the outside world, then soon as you sat in a chair... I remember you mentioning that before, about work.
Finally I might have the excess bit right - if you think sitting down all day might be equal to getting fat or excessive. It's like the excess might be the poison - excessive sitting down. Or that you can't move, or move on from it.

DREAM 1
So maybe I got Dream 1 totally wrong, and it is just what it is. And the connection to Dream 2 is that you were seeing what was wrong in the world or people. The abstractness can be that it was just your thought. The main strongest point to me was you don't want to live in that kind of world.
So then you saw what was wrong in your world, perhaps, in Dream 2.

There is probably still something else it can be. Just so the dream can trick me again!