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      Dream from last night

      In two dreams last night I was playing chess with my dad. In waking life I don't play chess, but somebody I know plays chess. In the first dream, my dad made two moves in a row at one point, with the attitude that he deserved it. I quit playing as a consequence. Afterwards I thought something along the lines of "OK, this behavior shows he's really started tipping into senility now".

      In the second dream, I had what I thought was a good late-middle-game position with a strong sequence of moves coming. While I left the room for a minute, my mom was moving the pieces around and showing the unavoidable sequence. But when I came back, it seemed she failed to put the pieces back exactly where they should be. So the advantage disappeared. Later in the game, I took a rook without giving it adequate thought first. I was distracted by still being angry about my mom, and also distracted because my dad had been moving the board around. This position led to a situation a few moves later where my dad thought he could get a rook back and another piece, which would lead to a win for him. It seemed to me that there might be a way for me to avoid the loss of the second piece, but I woke up.

      In between these two dreams, I also had some impressions of my home town, and regretting that I had to move away, that there was never a path for me to make a living there.

      In waking life, I don't have a very close relationship with my dad. If I believed that it was important to have more of a relationship, I could do that, but it isn't clear to me that this would be an improvement. He was a very bad parent in some ways, and has never seemed repentant. I understand that parenting is really difficult, and if he showed any sign of regret, apology, or accepting responsibility for the worst things, I think I wouldn't have trouble forgiving him. But it doesn't seem right to just give him a free pass if he's still not honest and doesn't really care.

      He has a better relationship with my brother, whom he treated fairly well, and an even worse relationship with one of my sisters. My brother is happily taking care of both parents, far away from me, which seems to remove some of the obligation for me to do anything. But they'll die in the not too far away future, so if anything could be done better on my end, I'd better figure it out while I still have time.

      In dreams, my parents are also somewhat metaphorically representative of providence or my 'higher self', so there are meanings there also.

      It seems to me that many people assume that any 'higher spirit' must by definition be wise and benevolent, unless perhaps it is an 'evil spirit', which is assumed to be weaker and peripheral to the deeper, stronger, benevolent spirit. I guess that contemplating any other possibility is too scary. Or perhaps their view reflects the vanity of their personal gods, and their eagerness to suck up to them in hope of receiving favor. In any case, I think that some aspects of people's behavior makes the most sense if I assume that their 'higher selves' are less than entirely free from human shortcomings. I think that some of the 'natural evil' in the world exists because its unavoidable, but some of it is there because the Fates can be dicks, and the amazing intelligence and harmony of Providence also contains some real elements of stupidity and power struggle. Anyway, my perceptions in that regard are likely to affect my dreams about my "parents" also.

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      Sometimes life can be very much like a chess game, other times, not so much. My question is it about your family or really about Quantum Chess?
      Whether or not you are going to forgive your parents is up to you but, they are still are a part of you.

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      Hi Shadowofwind,

      This caught my eye since Iíve been playing a lot of chess in dreams too, lately Ė though in my case, it probably is about the game itself since Iíve recently got a job teaching it, and itís been on my mind.

      This may or may not be helpful, but if it were my dream, I would be thinking about what a game of chess is like Ė a game with a clear, predetermined goal, rule-bound, where nothing is left up to chance but, rather, happens as a result of the playersí decisions. And then I would get a bit suspicious because there isnít a whole lot in my own view of life that meets that description. I donít believe in self-existent rules, and so broken ones would just be the world failing to work in the way I think it should Ė and so I would fully expect chaos to enter into whatever situation it is at some point, even if Iíd rather it didnít. From what youíve written, it seems like you have metaphysical views that are different from mine in some key ways, and youíd have a better idea of how relevant this line of thought is than I would.

      As far as the personal situation youíve described Ė well, as someone who will probably end up in a similar one someday, it would be nice to have an answer. I tend to think that unless the people involved have a certain capacity to reflect on their own actions and motivations, a satisfying resolution really isnít going to be possible, and trying for one is just going to leave them feeling confused or hurt or threatened. A lot of people donít Ė I tend to think that those of us who are interested in dreams have more of a knack for it than most, and so we tend to overestimate the degree to which people in general are actually in control of what they do. Whichever way it goes, though, handling things better than they did would be a sort of resolution, anyway.
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      You know, speaking of chess, have you guys ever had a lucid dream where you've played quantum chess with your dream character/ clone or whatever? I had suggested it for the task of the month once but, it may be a bit hard for a lot of people. Sorry to go off-top though.
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      I played go lucidly in a dream once, a sequence of perhaps a dozen moves, and got outsmarted by my opponent. I found it notable that my subconscious or the muse on the other side was more aware than I was, and had more control of the situation than I did.

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      Personally, I’ve never played any variety of chess in a lucid dream, but I do have a few interesting non-lucid ones earlier in my record. Those ones, I think, mostly had to do with my own attempts to figure out how to engage with my dreams and the various figures I encountered there, and how the sort of give-and-take you develop with your dreams by interpreting them on a regular basis worked. Naturally, my opponents always had the advantage, but I did learn from it, I think.

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      Just finished reading your dream account; unfortunately, I didn't notice any parallels with the dream I had yesterday morning, which is what I expected since neither of us felt much of a deviation from our regular dream content.

      My dream is here: https://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/venryx/a-87782/

      The similarities fare slightly better when compared to the topic I had set as my target. However, even that was only connected vaguely based on them both having to do with a troubled relationship. (however, the troubled relationship is not between me and someone else, but between a friend and a relative of theirs, and is actually more expansive than just a relationship issue) I would say exactly what the nature of it is, except it's pretty personal for the person, so I'll leave it out unless you for some reason need the details. (in which case I would private-message you, but keep the person anonymous)

      Anyway, thanks for attempting it for a couple of nights! Sometime in the future I'll take a closer look at the subject of shared dreaming (ie. examples of others' attempts, research done on it, etc.), but for now I'm content with regular ol' lucid dreaming.
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