Dream of the killing of my brother

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10-13-2007, 04:36 PM
Fuentes Enciso

Dream of the killing of my brother

Hey guys...well my name is Angel..im a male and 18 years old. Just recently ive had a lot happen in my life. For the most major parts...I have a really nice familly and we all get along as well as we argue. There are 3 of us guys and one girl. I being the youngest. About two months a go my girlfriend of 2 years came clean to me and confessed that my brother and her had sex. She told me she was sorry and she wish she had never done it because she regrets it and really loves me. Well i broke up with her but at the time i still talk to her. My brother denies any of this happened...but im cool with him as well. This happened before he moved to mexico about 5 months ago. Now he is in mexico. My dream was really strange and sorrowfull. during the day before my dream...i for the last couple of days have been on a stupid arguement with my sis and mother. My father passed away 3 years ago. I have a great job and i repect my boss a whole lot...but he gets a little frustrating at times as well. Well my dream started out with him...it seemed that he was a little crazy...like insane. For some reason we were at a highway...not in a car or anything...but that was the setting. Then i dont know how but i just knew he had died. Right there so i just moved along. Now im at what seems to be a school (ive already graduated but my girlfriend is still in there)...now my brother is here in the US and my sis and mother are inside..but i came with my girlfriend...who they all know had said that she cheated and they believe she is lying because my brother denies it. So they start giving me a whole bunch of crap about that and they are yelling and offending her. Then they start blaming me and i dont know what to do and all of a sudden im home. I notice that my brother (the one who supposedly cheated) is wounded on the couch...and i see my sister is after him with a gun! So what i do is try to protect him and sneak up on my sister. When she saw me...i got to her and smacked the gun out of her hand. it fell on the ground and from there on it was a whole bunch of wrestling and hitting in the face from me to her and her to me. Then along came my brother..(the same one that had been wounded) and started fighting as well. He was fighting me and me and my sis were against him. Then it would shit otherwise and it would be me and him against my sister. then my girl comes along and grabs a gun...my sister says..."yea shes gonna try and kill you now angel...she is just trying to hurt you"...but she didnt...she just threw the gun far from us and then she was gone. So now im really struggling because its my brother and sister against me and it just seems really violent and my brother is really causing me trouble so i grab a gun that was near me and unthoughtfully just shoot at him on the stomach. Then everything shifts...he is laying there scrunching of pain looking at me with a terrified and painful face..so i try to shoot him in the heart to ease his pain because at the time i had really regreted that i had shot him. The shot to his heart was unsuccesful becuase my gun had run out of bullets...so then outside the house i see that my oldest brother arrives with his good friend that had just recently gotten married. They were in a red car so i said...I need to get him to the hospital...So i picked him up and i ran towards the car. My big brothers friend was there opening the door and i said...he has been shot...and he said i can tell and held his back because it was spillin blood (i suppose the bullet went straight through) so the i put my hand there so he dont bleed too much...but he started going away and i was crying and he was just zoning out. I was devastated. My big brothers friend was not driving fast...so i told him to speed up but he said he couldnt...it was frantic. So now we are at the hospital and there is a waiting line to register for the emergency room...so i skip in line and register quick. By now im not carrying my brother. Oddly enough...i am carrying my dog ChiChi which is a little chihuahua that my brother (the shot one) had given to our family last new years as a present. In the dream i was holding Chichis wounds...which were oddly enough in the same spots as the ones my brother had. So chichi starts to stop breathing and i pat her in the back and then she starts breathing again heavy but before anybody can help her i see that chichi has stopped breathing and i dont feel her heart beating...so then i look down (cuz rememer she is tiny) and there she is just looking at me with her face swollen up by now. Then she just passes. During the time i was in the emergency room i was hearing a song that has been of my recent interest called Hey Jude by The Beatles. Thats playing in the background so then i get even more sad...and while im walking out..i see my brother (the one who had been shot) and he was standing there so i knew it was his ghost because i had subcounciously known he had died as well. Then he hugs me while walking and starts talking to me about how he was at the movies and there were some girls who would do anythingif you gave them 100 dollars. I said well dang how many did you get?! and he said...well on saturday i only spent a hundred...but on thursday i spent 700...and i asked why on thursday and not saturday...and he said his day off was on thursday...so we both laughed and then i woke up. I woke up feeling extremely sad and shocked. Then i saw that Chichi was laying down beside me so thats when i realized it had been a dream. I peted her and cried a little before i went to sleep again.

Can somebody please tell me what this means!?!?!
10-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Anansi

Hey there,

Based on the background that you gave, it feels like your subconscious is dealing with all the involved trust issues with the you/brother/girlfriend triangle and the subsequent polarized triangle created by the side-taking in your family. To break it down:

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

I have a great job and i repect my boss a whole lot...but he gets a little frustrating at times as well. Well my dream started out with him...it seemed that he was a little crazy...like insane. For some reason we were at a highway...not in a car or anything...but that was the setting. Then i dont know how but i just knew he had died. Right there so i just moved along.

This feels like the boss represents not himself but a male authority figure in your dream - probably your father. Could his crazy actions represents a sort of loss of direction you feel without your father and perhaps that you would have really liked his advice and guidance in your current situation, which is why you think of him? Then he is gone and you simply move on, which feels like it represents your having already dealt with your father's loss and moved on from it. As in, it would have been nice to have his guidance now, but you recognize it is not available and have dealt with it?

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

Now im at what seems to be a school (ive already graduated but my girlfriend is still in there)

Could this simply represent that you have moved on from the relationship with your girlfriend? Perhaps, because it is a school, that you feel you have learned from past mistakes or troubles, while she has not?

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

...now my brother is here in the US and my sis and mother are inside..but i came with my girlfriend...who they all know had said that she cheated and they believe she is lying because my brother denies it. So they start giving me a whole bunch of crap about that and they are yelling and offending her. Then they start blaming me and i dont know what to do and all of a sudden im home.

Could this be a fairly literal rehashing of the arguments, side-taking and strife caused in your family by the issue of your girlfriend and your brother? It feels as well like you felt very caught in the middle; that perhaps in reality you really didn't see a solution and tried to avoid or repress the issue as in the dream you simply disappear from it?

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

I notice that my brother (the one who supposedly cheated) is wounded on the couch...and i see my sister is after him with a gun! So what i do is try to protect him and sneak up on my sister. When she saw me...i got to her and smacked the gun out of her hand. it fell on the ground and from there on it was a whole bunch of wrestling and hitting in the face from me to her and her to me. Then along came my brother..(the same one that had been wounded) and started fighting as well. He was fighting me and me and my sis were against him. Then it would shit otherwise and it would be me and him against my sister.

This feels like it further represents the family infighting and shifting alliances of who believes who or sides with whom. Bullets can often represent messages; so it feels like in this case the bullets represent harsh and hurtful words. It feels like perhaps your sister is angry with both you and your brother, not for who actually did or said what, but because she is upset that the family must now deal with this division and blames the two of you for it?

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then my girl comes along and grabs a gun...my sister says..."yea shes gonna try and kill you now angel...she is just trying to hurt you"...but she didnt...she just threw the gun far from us and then she was gone.
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If bullets are still words or people communicating with people, if feels like there you had some sort of expectation that your girlfriend would have been more vindictful over the thing, and surprise that she wasn't? It also feels like someone (your sister, or is this actually you?) would like to believe that your girlfriend had made up the story about cheating with your brother just to hurt you. It seems, though, because she never fires the gun or sends this communication, that your subconscious is telling you that you don't believe that she lied, that she truly never meant to hurt you, and her pain and regret over having hurt you was real.

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

So now im really struggling because its my brother and sister against me and it just seems really violent and my brother is really causing me trouble so i grab a gun that was near me and unthoughtfully just shoot at him on the stomach.

K, so if you dreaming mind has now established that you believe your girlfriend, it seems that it turns your anger against your brother since you now feel that he did betray you as much as your girl did? Your shooting him feels like you unloading or firing all your anger and hurt at him: did you actually have that kind of fight with him, or is your subconscious mind just running through possibilities? Could it just represent the negative feeling between you and your brother all brought to a head?

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

Then everything shifts...he is laying there scrunching of pain looking at me with a terrified and painful face..so i try to shoot him in the heart to ease his pain because at the time i had really regreted that i had shot him. The shot to his heart was unsuccesful becuase my gun had run out of bullets...

This feels like you rebel at the idea of hurting your brother back because he hurt you. You try to take it back - ease his pain; but the lack of bullets seems to mean that you don't know what to say. It feels like this is actual - that you and your brother may be on good terms on the surface, but there are still unresolved issues and you don't know how to tell him that you've forgiven him....it must be particularly hard to tell someone you forgive them when they won't admit to having done anything wrong.

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

so then outside the house i see that my oldest brother arrives with his good friend that had just recently gotten married. They were in a red car so i said...I need to get him to the hospital...So i picked him up and i ran towards the car. My big brothers friend was there opening the door and i said...he has been shot...and he said i can tell and held his back because it was spillin blood (i suppose the bullet went straight through) so the i put my hand there so he dont bleed too much...but he started going away and i was crying and he was just zoning out. I was devastated. My big brothers friend was not driving fast...so i told him to speed up but he said he couldnt...it was frantic.

This feels like you working over how to bring things in the open with your brother and truly heal them instead of just covering them up. Trying to get to the hospital seems to reflect that healing. It feels like the appearance of your big brother and his friend might be your mind casting about for someone to help you open up communications with the shot brother. (Too many brothers! Gah! It's getting hard to clarify which one I mean!) Could it be that you feel your big brother and/or his friend could help mediate between you and the shot brother? Or even maybe that you feel that if the shot brother talked to the big brother instead of you, that the big brother might be able to help him work around some stuff? Like maybe the big brother is now a father figure to both of you, and both of you would look up to him and respect what he says in a way that you couldn't relate to each other? It feels like the big brother has sort of stayed out of the family side-taking in real life so far?

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

So now we are at the hospital and there is a waiting line to register for the emergency room...so i skip in line and register quick. By now im not carrying my brother. Oddly enough...i am carrying my dog ChiChi which is a little chihuahua that my brother (the shot one) had given to our family last new years as a present. In the dream i was holding Chichis wounds...which were oddly enough in the same spots as the ones my brother had. So chichi starts to stop breathing and i pat her in the back and then she starts breathing again heavy but before anybody can help her i see that chichi has stopped breathing and i dont feel her heart beating...so then i look down (cuz rememer she is tiny) and there she is just looking at me with her face swollen up by now. Then she just passes.

Dogs in a dream sometimes represent something unclean or dirty. Your brother cheating with your girl could certainly be seen that way! So perhaps this reflects your wanting the whole business to die or pass away and be gone; to get rid of that aspect of your brother and have what he did be in the past, but not to lose your brother over it. It really feels like there is an aspect of fear here that you will lose your brother - or even if you keep talking that you will still never have the relationship you had with him before? In all the urgency, the dying, the way he was zoning out or "going away" from you. In changing him to the dog, it feels like your mind clarified that you don't want to lose him, you want to get past this.

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

During the time i was in the emergency room i was hearing a song that has been of my recent interest called Hey Jude by The Beatles. Thats playing in the background so then i get even more sad...and while im walking out..i see my brother (the one who had been shot) and he was standing there so i knew it was his ghost because i had subcounciously known he had died as well.

Death often represents the end of one era and a new beginning in a dream, like the seasons turning over. This seems to clarify that you want to bury the past and start over with your brother.

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Originally Posted by Fuentes Enciso

Then he hugs me while walking and starts talking to me about how he was at the movies and there were some girls who would do anythingif you gave them 100 dollars. I said well dang how many did you get?! and he said...well on saturday i only spent a hundred...but on thursday i spent 700...and i asked why on thursday and not saturday...and he said his day off was on thursday...so we both laughed and then i woke up.

This feels like your subconscious mind has decided that you value your relationship with your brother more than with girls. This feels like it's represented by the devaluing of female relationships by equating dating to buying hookers. The girls may come and the girls may go, but family will always be there.

Hope that helps. :)
10-18-2007, 01:43 PM
Burned up

Angel there's really so much going on there that to break it into a series of separate meanings would be a huge project. I'll try and help with the general theme, though. Whilst Anansi has done a thourough job presenting an interpretation in the context of your life's events, some of which I go along with, I'd like to offer an alternative way of looking at things.

The general theme is conflict. The characters are all parts of your unconscious (they almost always are) and you don't know whether they're fighting or whether they're onside. I suspect that's how you feel about the key people in your life just now, which is why your unconscious uses them to show you this stuff. So your mind is unsettled and you don't know who you are or what to believe about yourself. Are you someone who is hurt (shot)? Or hurts (shoots)? Are you passionate (couple in red car)? Sexual (bearing gun)? Compassionate (brother)? Vulnerable (dog)? Well, you're all of these things and it's very confusing.

The most powerful emotion gou give is sadness, which is the sadness you feel about a defenceless small dog being hurt. There is a part of you that feels this sadness all the time and is looking for tenderness in the way you give tenderness to your dog.

There are many other symbols, e.g. the days of the week, the numbers 100 and 700, the car, the hospital etc. Maybe think about one of these and what it means for you to try and focus on what might be going on. e.g. the hospital sounds like you unconscious feeling like it needs some fixing? Or perhaps it needs nursing? What feels right for you?

Bu