Thread: Heaven and Hell

ouch, sorry to hear that. one day we will all sadly be there so heres to you bud

Originally posted by 94Saturn
I had this dream that I went to Hell, which was like a mental hospital/summer camp. We had rooms with bunkbeds. My roomate was this guy who was there for killing his girlfriend. The Devil was a counselor, and he made us sit in a circle and analyze our problems.
Later on, I guess I got to visit Heaven (whether I had been redeemed or it was a field trip, I don't remember). Heaven was a beautiful paradise of white sand beaches, palm trees and jungles. Unfortunately I wasn't there very long because I had to go back to Hell.

Angels once came to me and distinguished between the Red Sins and the Black Sins. The Red Sins are sins of the Passions and the Emotions -- the kind of Sin where a person can say "I didn't wake up that day planning to do this, but..." Such sins involve desires and frustrations linked to bodily existence. It is supposed that once free of the body, in Death, that these tendencies for Red Sin will diminish, continuing on only by force of habit. Your friend, who was in this Hell for having killed his girlfriend -- this was probably just a Red Sin Hell, which would only need be temporary. your friend obviously did not plan to kill his girlfriend. Something she said or did just set him off. But free of the body and the need for sexual expression, he would no longer be in a position where he would even have to deal with such naggings and manipulations anymore. He could graduate to heaven where guys can be the Free and Totally Masculine as they were before Puberty turned them into the slaves of women.

But the Black Sins are the intentional Sins -- the planned and deliberate sins which people commit for the execution of their plans for Ambition, Predation, Competition, Exploitation, Theft, Fraud -- all those Acts which define them as the Enemy to every other Human Being, all those behaviors that make a Civilization of Love and Sharing impossible (while we listen to the Litany of excuses which insist that Utopias are not possible -- Human Nature is not like that -- meaning that we must always tolerate a few Barbarians who make it their Life Work to make Civilization untenable). These Black Sinners are predators who feed on other human beings, attacking the ethics and the morals that would sustain a Perfect Collective Community.

Now, what rehabilitation can there be for a person who once considers it permissable to victimize others for his own advancement. When once a person sides with Barbarism against Civilization, has he not re-committed the First Act of Rebellion of Lucifer against God. Once a person supposes that he has more to gain by Destroying Civiliztion and the Kingdom of heaven, than by supporting it, then Hell is the only place that God may safely put them. One does not keep foxes with the chickens, or wolves with the sheep. Civilization can not tolerate the criminal or the cheat.

leo,

how could u say murder is not a "black sin". im pretty sure murder is worse than lust of the flesh ("red sin").

anyway if someone believes in "sin", then that means the bible is 100% true and any sin is falling short of the glory of god and is damnable. if u believe that anyway.

the way i see it is this: we are programmed to run wild and have sex with as many females of our kind for procreation. the fact that we dont want to sleep with a beaver (no pun intended) and want to with our own kind is programming. most people just accept lust as the devil making us do it. well i look at lust like this : God made me do it. if he didnt want me to do it then why would i want to? why would it feel so good and natural?did he create me or did satan? i wish i knew why life was this way but im not that enlightened yet. i do believe we are to be pure in the site of god but check this out, dont laugh but it is a worthy argumeant: i usually dont like to get high before i have to go number 2, but i lit up and then had to go... so i went. the point is i never felt so wierd and almost had a revelation on the can! "this is sick and unpure and wierd" AND WE HAVE TOILET PAPER AND A BATHROOM! AND SOAP!! people in the bible days walked around with shiit falling down their asscracks. how pure is that? it just got me thinking thats all...

if god made woman for us he also made us want it and that is lust. contradiction