Thread: My Other Life - LS's Dream Journal

Good luck with this one dude, hope you keep to it

*walks in and smashes a glass of champagne on the wall*

No, I'm not being violent, I'm christening your DJ

Good luck with the dreams.

Hey, todays entry is quite annoying, i am so used to waking at 11 on weekends and this morning i kept waking up and i kept remembering like fragments, no details, i knew that i had a dream, i just couldn't grasp the information, this happened about 3 or 4 times, i kept waking up knowing i had a dream but not being able to grasp a sinlge bit of information at all.

Sorry to disappoint on my second day of my journal, i actually woke up at 9 and got out of bed instead of 11 which is different i must admit compared to my lazy mornings in during the summer. Anyways i will update if i remember anything at all throughout the course of the day.


EDIT - I remember something about last night, i think i may of had a lucid dream!!! This is awesome, i remember something, i remember just knowing i was dreaming and knowing i was in a lucid dream, not so many details now however i will try my best to remember!

EDIT 2 - I remember the lucid dream, well part of it thanks to typing a short PM to Adam i had a huge memory recall and remembered it, basically this dream was very very very vivid and so vivid that i had to control it and it felt like i was holding back a big tidal wave to keep the dream stable in such vividness. But all i can remember is that i was walking down a path and i was running, i turned to the right and shouted " I WILL REMEMBER THIS LUCID DREAM!", that is all i remember, i see hints of details, i'm pretty sure it was a lucid, i'm not sure how much control i had over it in terms of my actions but i think i had some degree of control, i cannot remember anything proving that i became lucid but i do remember it being a very realistic and vivid dream, i'm sure it was, i got a gut feeling. Well i call that a lucid dream, i'm out of my dryspell if you ask me I'll post more details if i remember them!

Just so you know your PM has not been ignored - will reply soon

Okay mate, i shall wait in patience, i am still trying to remember more details, its really annoying because the details are just out of reach and keep taunting me, but i shall get them!

Right everyone, i got some dreams recalled last night and here they are for you!

Dream 1 - Street of Many Faces

I was walking down a road and i saw a petrol station in the distance on the left hand side of me, i was walking steadily and my pace seemed to quicken as i saw this guy i know from college, i said hi to him, it seemed like him and a group of people were off into town for some lunch. I continued on and crossed the road towards the petrol station, i opened the door and it lead me to a classroom, there were tables everywhere and people all sat down. I saw two people i knew from my previous school so i went and sat in between them, we began to talk about something funny and we laughed...


Dream 2 - Guitar Solo at McDonalds

I was with my mum, the sun was bright and we got into the car. She was driving me somewhere, i was not sure where but i had my guitar in the back seat. We drove through wooded areas and past old houses. I was wondering where i was going and then suddenly it hit me that i was meeting a friend to have a jam session. My mum drove up by McDonalds, i then suddenly realised that we were meeting at McDonalds also, it was strange but i went with it. I was about to enter and i saw two girls from the year below me and suddenly i felt very intimidated and scared, it was strange. However i took a deep breath and proceeded into McDonalds, as i proceeded my confidence grew and felt less and less intimidated. I saw my friend and asked him if he was ready to jam. But he then said that he didn't want to practice today, i was a bit annoyed at him since i had been driven quite a way to get there. However i went with it and sat down opposite him, suddenly one of his mates appeared and i started to talk to his mate...


Dream 3 - Friend with a Change of Style

I was at a fielded area with a football club just nearby and i was with a group of friends and suddenly one of my good friends came over. I had not seen him in a while and he came over and his hair was a darker colour, it was brown instead of his normal blonde colour. We all started to laugh at him and he started to laugh also and joke, it was funny because it actually suited him...



Details 1

I remember being in a room which was rather dull due to the clouds outside which hid the sun, i was maybe performing some harry potter-like magic.

Ah, the irony of this thread, i'm really sorry i haven't updated this journal at all, to be honest i have remembered close to nothing recently except for last night. Its all happening again to me, i am on a lowdown, i don't have the time to try anything or think about lucid dreaming since it has been busy recently. And what makes me laugh even more is the fact that i proved myself right again, every single time i ever get good and i am having fortnightly lucid dreams i never had motivation to do anything in lucid dreams and i hit rock bottom and when i go down hill which i have done now, i go and get really motivated and come up with some motivational dream ideas which i will not be able to try out due to my mind being screwed up in various ways. In fact i may rant on about my mind and general dreaming and lucid dreaming in the hope that i may be able to get some advice on the matter.

***RANT WARNING***

Now i don't know about any of you out there but i seem to find that the majority of people know themselves very well and their minds, they seem to have this connection and they seem to know how to control it in ways, they seem to know how to tame their mind and able to control their dreams in an orderly and set way, they can predict when they are about to have a lucid dream, you know, like every friday or what not. With me i can't seem to see or track any form of pattern in my mind. My dreams only sometimes make sense enough for me to interpret and determine what my dreams are showing, however, most the time my dreams are random, unstructured and make no sense whatsoever. You'd think i'd be able to have a reasonable frequency of lucid dreams, at least that way i'd be able to plan ahead and be prepared for my next lucid dream, however they are as random as anything. I'll get one in a week, then a month later, then a week, then 3 months. Its just unpredictable, i have got to the point where i put in no effort at all because whenever i put effort into it i just fail miserably, and believe me i do try for a while, i don't give up after my first night.

It just irritates me how with me and most things in my life always require way more effort and time compared to others. Its a shame i can't approach this whole thing as like a mechanical problem in which i can be fixed, but no, i cannot, the mind is just too complex and i feel that i could spend years and years of trial and error and still not succeed. I really really really really want a lucid dream, i want to be able to see the beauty of my mind, but like many people have said to me, i seem to be in an endless cycle. Its like theres this big barrier right in my way and i physically cannot move it at all. Its literally impossible, i have so many awesome lucid dream stories, activities and things that i would love to try out, but no, i feel that all i could do is just write my ideas as a story, not something i could put to my mind and live out.

Dreams are awesome things and they tell us so much and allow us to find out so much about our minds, the potential of lucid dreaming for me is so awesome but i don't know where to start or to end, i can't tell someone to tell me how to do things because its my mind, people cannot tell me about my mind and my dreams, only i can do that, but the fact is that i have tried hard and failed. I just don't see a solution anywhere at all, its so difficult, even a break hasn't proven useful.

Any suggestions and long replies are very welcome, i could really use some help on this because it seems to be the main problem that causes all my downfalls with lucid dreaming, i want to succeed but i can't seem to. I'd really really appreciate any help anyone can offer!

Hey there,

(Warning: long! I couldn't stop typing )

I feel as though i can relate. For many years, I used to experience what seems like the same thing that you're writing about here. I could get lucid dreams, sometimes even with a measure of consistency, but I'd have to put a lot of effort into it. And it would only last so long. After a week or two, three, I'd often get either mentally drained or the results that seemed to be going so well initially would begin to fade. I'd get frustrated, exhausted and after a while decided to just 'go to sleep' without all the bother.

Then something would come along: some new technique, some new thing I read or heard about. That would rekindle my motivation and the entire process would start again. At first it'd work great. I'd get lots of lucidity, think I finally found 'the answer', only to have it snatched from me a few weeks later when this new method ran out of gas.

No matter how I tried, I just couldn't get a grip on things.

If this feels familiar (and I'm fairly sure it does for a lot of lucid dreamers actually), there's several reasons why I think this happens:


a) You're not working with a dream-theory:

This one sounds odd to a lot of people. So let me start right off with an example my methodology professor once gave me.

A scientific study proved that there was a very high correlation between how much ice cream was sold at the beach, and how many people drown on a single day!

Most people, when they hear this, will begin to look for reasons as to why this could be. Maybe the ice cream is heavy on the stomach, and gives you cramps when swimming? Or maybe it makes your muscles sluggish? Or maybe... or maybe...

When a lot of ice cream is sold at the beach, it's a very warm day. More people go swimming on a warm day. More people swimming means that more people are likely to drown. When no ice cream is sold, its a colder day, almost no one goes swimming.

You CANNOT interpret your results without a frame of refence, because you simply have nothing to compare it with. If you're going simply from an action/reaction idea, you're forgotten that there's other variables too. Then it becomes hard to get a grasp on what's happening.

When it comes to dreams and the workings of the mind, there's really a lot of variables. Without some viable hypothetical theory to link these variables, you're never going to be able to figure out why things work or don't work for you.

So instead work on creating yourself a theory of dreaming. Use science, use religion, use philisophy, it doesn't really matter so much (I use a psychoanalytical theory myself). What does matter is that you begin linking concepts together, think not only about 'what happened' but also 'why it happened'. What could've made it happen? What could've made it fail to happen? What are the variables that could have had an effect here? Then you can begin to 'direct' your experimentations in a much more effective way, to 'test' parts of your theory (and reconsider them or rewrite them as necessar) and constantly move towards a better understanding of yourself and how these things work for you. Once you do that, you can also start interpreting the results much more effectively.


b) Work with your consciousness

We can have endlessly long discussions about what consciousness is, but there's several tools of consciousness that can be easily identified, and that almost no one will dispute.

One of them is attention, another is language. These two tools are almost inherently conscious. You cannot focus your attention on something and not at the same time be conscious of it. And language in its turn helps us to structure, comprehend, and expand our knowledge about what is happening around us. (Try explaining to someone that black is the opposite of white when you only have images, sounds, smells, feelings and tastes to work with. You'll never manage to convey the concept of 'is opposite of').

You want to use these tools. And using them is fairly simple: a) pay attention to your dreams. Not just your lucid dreams, all of them. and b) use language in reference to your dreams. (lucid and otherwise). Write about them. Talk about them.

The more the better. What was it about? What did it make me feel? What might it mean? Why did I have this dream tonight? What's there about this dream that reminds me of other dreams? What are the recurring elements? The more you can 'convert' your dream into language, the more you'll see your dream recall improve and your general awareness-level improve along with it. That in turn will result in more lucidity.

Notice the "your" in the underlined sentence above though. I've seen people that know all there is to know about dreaming and lucid dreaming, yet don't really know a thing about their own personal dreams. Result: despite all their knowledge and all their best effort, they have huge problems getting lucid.


c) Don't focus on what you don't have, focus on what you do have!

You might have heard this before. But it really is a very easy trap to fall into. I've been doing this for fifteen years now, and I *still* sometimes fall into it!

Desire ("I want this!") can be a powerful motivator. The problem with desire is that it loses power the moment you have what you want. If you "want to be lucid" so strongly this "want" finally manages to make you lucid, you'll get exactly that. A lucid dream, which will probably end the moment you become lucid, as your desire is temporarily fullfilled, and the driving force behind your lucidity, sated now, falls away. Then when some time passes and no new lucidity comes, the desire gets stronger again, until finally it might make you lucid one more time, only to fade away again.

Its easy to get trapped into a back and forth rythme this way, constantly bouncing between 'happy lucidity' and 'frustrating lack of lucidity'.

Personally, I think its far better to focus on what you have, then on what you want. Which means to begin with, you're not even going to focus on lucidity too much. Sure it the eventual goal you're moving towards, but begin with your regular dreams. Learn to appreciate them. Find some value in them, perhaps they're entertaining, perhaps they're relaxing, perhaps they can teach you something about yourself. A non lucid dream that you remember is still better then not remembering anything. Even just a feeling or an idea that 'I might have dreamt about this' can have some inherent value.

I like to make the analogy with building a house: You need to lay a good foundation first before you can begin to build the house itself. Rush straight to building your house before laying the foundation, and your walls are likely to cave in on themselves. You build your house, it collapses. You build it again using a different technique, it collapses yet again. You get a new working crew and build it again, it collapses yet again. Why? Because you forgot to lay the foundation.

In my opinion, lucid dreaming is similar. You have to work on your regular dreams first, and build upwards from there. This might be a slightly longer road initially, requiring a bit more patience, but it pays off in spades in the long run.

Anyways, those are just three suggestions, which I hope can help you in some way. As always, if you want to discus things further, I'm but a pm away

-Redrivertears-

08/12/07
I was in my house, and suddenly i saw these two really attractive girls, i walked over to them, but they then pulled out camera's and suddenly i was naked!

I didn't know what to think, but they then started making threats that they would show any pictures they took to everyone, so i decided to run for it, i covered up any part i could, i just ran and ran. I saw a door in front of me, i opened it to darkness and i went through and i locked it behind me just to be sure. But little did i know that when i turned i was in the front room of my house, and the girls were sitting there.

They pounced at me, pinned me to the ground and then i woke up. My thoughts to that dream are unknown, bit of a random one.

Had a lucid last night, it was strange since the realism of this dream stood out a lot. Here is what happened.

I was in some sort of office or school and for some reason i just knew that i was dreaming, however i did have doubts since it was so real. I was staying lucid for quite some time, probably the longest yet in fact. It must have been at least 2 minutes which is awesome. I was in this room with two incredibly attractive girls.... and you get the picture. You see, i didn't feel too much sense of controlling what i wanted to do, it was a good dream, i am not bashing that, but i could have done something better. However, i encountered one of those points where i was not sure whether or not to be laughing or shocked. One of the girls just transformed into music teacher for some odd reason (my teacher is a guy, a gay guy) and he then approached me, i was like "no, get away from me", and then the other girl walked in through another door and it got sexual.

I think the least said about this one the better, but a lucid dream is a lucid dream, i'm just happy it happened, its been months since my last, and it did stand out. I wasn't excited about being lucid, i just went with it in a happy state. Of course, the gender changing was quite disturbing This may have just inspired me to get some more sleep and start lucid dreaming again.

Okay, though many of you will not likely read my journal, i am going to attempt (again) to start up my dream journal, i want to get back into lucid dreaming, i really do since a lot of dreams recently have been quite strange yet vivid. Comment if you like, but this is mainly a manifestation and place that i can record them in the morning when i wake, short note form of course until later when i can expand them. But lucid dreaming is something i want to achieve again and i hopefully can get back into it and get some more success instead of doing an entry in here and then giving up.

So yeah, i would post my dream from last night, but i can't remember what happened. I do remember a dream i had the night before which involved me climbing on top of a huge rock formation, i was climbing up the built in ladders and was trying to race to the top, but when i got to the top i suddenly was stricken by the fact that i was thousands of feet in the air on a huge rock formation. I could have easily fallen since my fear of heights kicked in.

It as strange this dream, it felt different to most.

Anyways, i'll make a conscious effort to remember some dreams tonight to get down on here.

Thanks.

Okay, its a quick one this time.

- I remember an iPhone for some reason, but it was different, there was something up with it, i don't know qutie what but it was important some how.

- Some girl from college walked into a room i was in which happened to be full of people, however she was pregnant for some reason and we were trying to guess who the father was.

Strange i know, but thats all i can remember for now. I'll hopefully post tonights dreams tomorrow, should i remember any.

Not much remembered last night.

I had a brief recollection of me walking into my sisters room and trying to cut my toe nails, i honestly don't know why i was doing so, but anyways, she got mad that i was doing it in her room and she started to attack me.

Short, quite a rubbish dream, but hopefully i'll remember more tonight.

Okay, i remembered another dream whilst in college today.

In the recording studio at college there is a black piano which is rarely used but it always has the cover open which makes the keys of the keyboard visible.

In the dream i had i remember the keys on the piano literally being a mixture of straight and other keys being at 90 degree angles, it was completely messed up, quite funny in fact because i tried to play it and it worked despite the fact that the keys were out of place and in a jumble.

Strange dream, i think it really mirrors the confusion that i have when it comes to everyday tasks haha.

Hiya LSzszszz!!

Playing instruments is so funny in dreams. Do you ever find that if you just go for it in a dream, you can create music that sounds almost awesome?

Haha Mes, i know what you mean, the scariest thing about that dream was that i could actually syncronise my left and right hand perfectly, in real life i struggle real bad! Haha, it was fun though, and thanks for the comment.

Okay, lots to remember from last night, i'll do this in quick note form as i have no chance to type up everything.

- Exploding Kid - Non descriptant, i don't know why i remembered this one, its rather an odd one i must admit, but all i can remember is some kid just exploding for some reason

- New show that was like Skins - I was being told about a new show that was like Skins which is currently showing. I suddenly moved from viewing real life to like a widened full screen advertisement of this new show. The guy who was telling me kept commenting on how attractive the girl in the advert was, but to be honest, she was actually quite ugly.

- College with Paul - I was in the music room at college with a guy in my group called Paul, don't know why, but it was linked to another fragment i remember.

- Got moved, alteration on music room - Was in the college music room with Paul and it was a slight alteration on the standard music room, but we were asked to leave, this kind of links to something my music teacher said to me the other day, he told me to leave the room since he didn't want the door being held open, quite funny in fact

- Talking to Ben in college - I was talking to my mate Ben, he was in my college for some reason instead of the college he is usually in IRL. I remember us walking up some stairs, and thats about it.

- Goldney playing guitar (very indie) whilst Alex D played either drums or piano! - Pretty self explanatory, but my mate was playing the drums and i was playing guitar and suddenly as we left, Alex D came in and got on the drum kit and Goldney walked in and picked up the guitar. Alex played some badass drum beats whilst Goldney played some very indie-type stuff. Cool that some DV members took a dive in my dreams though!

- Max's belly predicament - I saw some events, one in which i saw a guy i know called max, he had his belly hung out and also did some other things, i then saw him again later on, and i told him that i saw him before, and he didn't recall it, so i jumped to the conclusion that i had seen the future for some reason. I then told him that he would be walking around with his belly hung out later, nobody believed me until later when it happened

- Friends not believing my future predictions which later turned out to be true - Same as above.

- Some girl trying to catch up to me to ask me something, she had dark red hair (dyed) - This is very brief and i don't remember the details but i was in a field and some girl ran up to me, i don't know why, and i don't know who she was.

- Fat Indian kid - I saw some fat indian guy whilst in music, he was sat around but he seemed to shift in and out of my dreams for some odd reason.

- Strange orange, underground motorway of sort - Was walking through it, possibly a meeting with Max and my predicaments!

- Forest maybe? - This could have been another meeting scenario between me and Max, i dunno though, can't remember.

- Put a green tea teabag into a mug full of hot water, came back later, and it was still clear water, not green

Okay, thats about it, i'll elaborate on these later and expand, but thats it for now.

EDIT

Elaborated! Feel free to read

I remembered only fragments last night whilst in college today, but then forgot them again due to other things on my mind.

So yeah, nothing today folks. Hopefully it'll be different tomorrow.

I'll expand this when i have more time today, but i know i had lots of dreams last night but lost some memories in the process, so i only remember a few.

- Bus Stop, having book stolen me runnning after guy with short ginger hair in the dark up the road. Ran through park and was joined by danny and chris, we then tracked him through the play area and through some bushes and i took him down, we found him with lots of stuff.

- I remember vaguely being in a futuristic city-like setting with danny and chris.

- Played my guitar and it worked when plugged into the amp, it was strange since it doesn't work because the pickups are currently not working.

Just remembered these from the short 3 hours i've been sleeping.

- Moving away to live with my Grandma.

- Trying to get there but had problems becuse my mum wouldn't let me go.

- Then saw Tom, walked with him, left to go to train station, then he text me to say i would see him on a hill nearby walking (random). He never showed.

Thats basically it sorry for the randomness, i'm quite disorientated atm.

Not good dream recall lately? I've been having trouble, that's for sure. Not enough sleep, TONS of stress, bah. Hug?

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Not good dream recall lately? I've been having trouble, that's for sure. Not enough sleep, TONS of stress, bah. Hug?

Aww, well theres only one remedy for this problem, sleep and one huge hug (believe me, its a huge hug, the smilie is just too small)

Seriously though Mes, just tone it down a bit, organize things, then set aside some time for your stress also, if you can deal with your stress and more you can get your recall back into shape. A suggestion which always seems to work for me is writing down my stresses, worries and problems before i go to bed on a notepad, also maybe even solutions. Try it and your recall should improve.

Ah, an update from last nights dreams, hmmm. I had another dream which i don't want to talk about, i had another that freaked me out a month or two back, only a few members know what happened. In this one it was better due to the circumstances, but it did however leave me thinking about something important that i need to take into further consideration inside my head. I'd rather not post it for viewing, its the second time its happened and it starting to worry me as to how much i am in control of things both inside and out of the dream

Meh, i'll have some good ones tonight that i'll post up. I think i'm going to only expand on dreams if i have time to do so. If not i will keep the note form, i'm enjoying it and it a great way to get down my thoughts on the dreams and they are also little points which i can easily look back on and think "oh yeah! i remember what happened".

Thats all for today though folks.

Last nights dreams, hmmm.

There was one in which i was in a futuristic world, everything was strange and i know there is more that happened, i just can't remember it as of now. Bit tired and i've got lots to do.

I'll post up anything else i remember later on today.

I remember nothing from last night unfortunately, sucks i guess. But theres always tonight eh!

Hopefully i will have something to post tomorrow.

Last night i DID remember some dreams, but had no time to type them up this morning and thus forgot them throughout the day. I did have an interesting experience though, i wasn't able to use the shower this morning so i took a bath, and whilst laying there i must have fell asleep or something because i remember having a dream, not sure what of.

Damn, this is getting kind of pointless me even posting when theres no content to post

I WILL have something up tomorrow from tonights dreams, no questions asked