Thread: Burned up dreams

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Darn. It just takes practice. I think that happens to a lot of people at first. You know I was eavesdropping on you and raklet; lucidity could help you with your dream-woman thing. That might be a good goal.

Yes, I've thought about that, so it's good to have that feedback. I really can't find the motivation to put a lot of effort into LDing. I have a busy schedule and the thought of waking at 4am or whatever doesn't appeal. But if perchance it happens in a dream anyway, I'll hopefully be increasingly more aware to act on it.

Irritatingly my daughter (who has never heard of LDs) said to me the other day. "I like it when I realise I'm dreaming in a dream, as I can then do what I want". Grrrrrrrr...

Originally Posted by Burned up

Irritatingly my daughter (who has never heard of LDs) said to me the other day. "I like it when I realise I'm dreaming in a dream, as I can then do what I want". Grrrrrrrr...

I hope you told her about it! That's so cool! You should encourage her to keep it up--a lot of people discovered it as kids, but let it go and had to re-learn later.

Originally Posted by Burned up

"I like it when I realise I'm dreaming in a dream, as I can then do what I want". Grrrrrrrr...

That's priceless.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I hope you told her about it! That's so cool! You should encourage her to keep it up--a lot of people discovered it as kids, but let it go and had to re-learn later.

Yes, I said "You can really do that? It's called lucid dreaming. Not many people can do that." She seemed quite pleased with herself.

Originally Posted by raklet

That's priceless.

She's normally quite a reserved sort of person so it was like it came from nowhere!

Daring game

Not sure how this dream started but I was with a group of random DCs, one of which was C, a colleague from 10 years ago. Thinking I'd be safe on this one, I dared a young woman call Laura (random DC) to have sex with me. She immediately lay on the ground and started undoing her clothes. At this point I realised that others were around and I said "OK, I'll do it if you lot take your clothes off too." At which point they all did, including C. Remembering I was married [Raklet - I blame you for this!!!] I said I must get a condom and I went to the next room, which seemed to be my bedroom. I couldn't find any and realised that my wife was out in the car and they must be with her . Next thing I'm looking outside and was on a bus at one stage bu then decide that I've been away too long and they'd think I'm chickening out. So I go back but the scene had changed.

Now there was another game going on. It was a university setting and the was apparatus about the room with experiments going on. At the same time, there was this gun thing someone was holding with a long plastic wire coming out of it that spun round the room (like a giant strimmer). I don't know why the room wasn't just wreckage. Anyway, I put my hand in the air, or I was holding something and managed to snag the end of the wire as it swept past, so it wrapped around it. This caused the gun to fly out of the other person's hand and whizz around the room. The was a crack noise at this stage. I looked at the apparatus of some people with a light experiment next to me and saw that there was a hole in one of their mirrors, caused by the cracking noise.

My beautiful restaurant

This dream features my married friends B and S. There was a film about a pizza recipe. Also, B's first wife had died (she resembled a girl I fancied back at school) and he had now married the pizza chef's sister. (This must be S, by deduction). I was left with the words "My beautiful restaurant" in mind, possibly this being the name of the film.

The dark room

I've been drinking beers in Cyprus the previous evening (like a holiday irl) and woke early in the morning to find that my wife wanted a break from early starts and I was to look after this little girl. She seemed to be our friends' baby daughter although she also resembled my 2yo niece. I recall sitting on a sofa whilst the girl was climbing on my shoulders.

I was aware that the little girl was still there when I was in the next room. It was dark and I was sitting on the floor. Other people were about. It was like there was a hemisphere about me which was the only part of the darkness I could see. Like a projection of what was beyond, although beyond was dark. And even on the dome thing it wasn't light everywhere - the images moved around like blobs of coloured oil in a 1960s decorative lighting gizmo. It was really weird and seemingly part of a planned experience as everyone else seemed to know what was going on for me. I was crawling around the floor and this dome was moving with me.

Then the dome was gone and the room was almost dark. It was definitely a fantasy experience that me and some other DCs were in. There was a male and a female leader, sitting at the edge of the room. The female started to smoke and my first thought was "that's illegal". (Which it is in Scotland IRL). But then she said it's all fantasy and a couple of others started smoking too, all crawling around on the floor like me. The experience seemed to be one of facing terrors and I was feeling more worried than scared (so my notes say - I don't recall).

House of many floors

We've moved to a new (but old) house. I'm upstairs in an empty room. I'm looking at the floor which is polished floorboards, stained with a dark varnish (like an old table we have irl). I'm wondering whether to have the floor re-done or to leave it in its old, naturally distressed, state. I now notice that the floorboards in the centre of the room wobble. I lift them up and see there's a room below. I look in and see some coal (possibly used and dumped) and two electric heaters. I feel pleased at this find and want to tell my wife we can heat the house now. I drop down into this room and see that below this room is another, through a trap door. I drop into this room now, hoping that I can get back up again or I can find another way out. It's a old-style kitchen with a large wooden table in the middle. I know I'm at the bottom of the house now and there's a door out of the kitchen.

I am not aware of any windows in any of these rooms. I am also aware that I've been in this house before. The layout is that there are floors between floors, and next to them. So a side-view would be like a zigzag with floors 1, 3 and 5 on one side and floors 2 and 4 on the other, kind of half way between heightwise. So I know I can get back to floor 2 (ground level?) through the kitchen door.

It took ages to write that lot down. The first dream was PDP from my response to Raklet. My values are a little different. For me it's more about being found out than just not getting involved in the first place. Although having said that I've been faithful to my wife irl throughout. My worry was that dna would ultimately incriminate me if the woman wanted to expose me - hence I needed a condom!!!!!!!! Not sure what these DCs were for me. Perhaps they're my version of temptation. I feel I have to go along with the crowd and this crowd were game for anything. The second part of that dream was fun but weird.

The restaurant didn't really mean much to me. The death of B's first wife felt like it did irl when I knew I wasn't going to get it together with this girl. Like we can't move on without some part of us dying. If anyone knows the significance of a pizza recipe, please let me know.

The dark room was interesting in that it contrasted the little girl (source of light?) with facing some worries (darkness). The dome with the images from outside was plain confusing both now and in the dream. It was a bit like the first dream, in that I was with DCs doing the same sort of thing. Again, I went along with the crowd rather than doing my own thing.

The weird-house dream seems to be common. That's how I found DV, searching for the meaning of that dream. It said the house represents yourself, I've kind of forgotten now, but like the basement means suppressed things, and the attic means something else, etc.

I don't know what it means when the floors are zig-zag!

Bu don't you think that sex in dreams isn't always about sex? It might symbolize something else too, right?

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

The weird-house dream seems to be common. That's how I found DV, searching for the meaning of that dream. It said the house represents yourself, I've kind of forgotten now, but like the basement means suppressed things, and the attic means something else, etc.

Yes, that's my understanding. Attic means "head" - values etc. Basement means unconscious repressed stuff. Middle bit the heart etc. But as with all these things - it might not.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I don't know what it means when the floors are zig-zag!

Bu don't you think that sex in dreams isn't always about sex? It might symbolize something else too, right?

Right

Green ties

I won a competition and I was in what looked like a gift shop. My prize was a green tie and the ceremony was being filmed. Someone else there had already bought a green tie but fortunately this one was a different design.

Same place?

As I woke (to write notes, above) between dreams this may or may not be the same place. But this was a visitor centre which had the reputation for selling bags that co-ordinate (with green ties???). It was the best centre for "falling in love" apparently.

Falling in love again

My next note just says "fall in love". Residue from previous fragment or something on my mind?

Pushed out of bed

I got out of bed in the middle of the night (not sure if this was in dream or rl). When I went back there was no space as my wife had moved across. I grabbed my dressinggown wondering where I was going to sleep.

Walking home in the dark

End of work at my first job (electronics co). Was walking home in the dark but now I was in a remote part of Scotland and I had turned off the main road into a smaller lane. I passed a parked car with two lovers inside. Wondered if I should get some bedding for my car as I thought of a woman I used to fancy and would go away with her

Well, they're just fragments.

ha ha ha I like your daughters comment about lucid dreaming I bet you were shocked when she said that....although clearly she is a natural.....lol what I would give for that ability

That dark room dream is mad! I like that you thought about smoking being illiegal! I was totally happy when they introduced that rule here

shame you cant remember more about that falling in love dream....I like to read those dreams

Originally Posted by mark

That dark room dream is mad! I like that you thought about smoking being illiegal! I was totally happy when they introduced that rule here

Oh so was I. But yes, it felt mad in that dream. Like a huge chunk of reality had been removed apart from this virtual dome thing.

Originally Posted by mark

shame you cant remember more about that falling in love dream....I like to read those dreams

So do I. And I like to have them or more accurately I like to remember them!

Originally Posted by Burned up

Pushed out of bed

I got out of bed in the middle of the night (not sure if this was in dream or rl). When I went back there was no space as my wife had moved across. I grabbed my dressinggown wondering where I was going to sleep.

Hahaha, it's bad enough being pushed out of bed IRL. I don't know if it's better or worse if it happens in a dream
I wonder if 'finding a place to sleep' has some meaning in a dream. It happens to me quite often that I can't get into my own bed and have to look for another place to sleep. Might just be some minor detail, but maybe it has some symbolic meaning...

End of work at my first job (electronics co). Was walking home in the dark but now I was in a remote part of Scotland and I had turned off the main road into a smaller lane. I passed a parked car with two lovers inside. Wondered if I should get some bedding for my car as I thought of a woman I used to fancy and would go away with her

I think it's interesting that dreams are very often about things that happened (much) earlier in life.
Same with people getting demented: the earliest memories are the ones they keep the longest. Makes me wonder: are those early memories deeper imprinted in the brain because we dream a lot about them? (repetition strengthens connections in the brain) Or are they installed in the brain in a different (stronger) way?

Originally Posted by Sara

Hahaha, it's bad enough being pushed out of bed IRL. I don't know if it's better or worse if it happens in a dream
I wonder if 'finding a place to sleep' has some meaning in a dream. It happens to me quite often that I can't get into my own bed and have to look for another place to sleep. Might just be some minor detail, but maybe it has some symbolic meaning...

I didn't really spend any time on this dream but I think you're right. IRL I just get angry and push her back to her own side but in the dream I walk away. Could be that I feel unhappy about competing for space? Or just sharing? That would make more sense.

Originally Posted by Sara

I think it's interesting that dreams are very often about things that happened (much) earlier in life.
Same with people getting demented: the earliest memories are the ones they keep the longest. Makes me wonder: are those early memories deeper imprinted in the brain because we dream a lot about them? (repetition strengthens connections in the brain) Or are they installed in the brain in a different (stronger) way?

Not sure about why, but you're right about the earlier memories being more permanent. Certainly my grandmother remembered stuff from 50 years ago before she died but didn't remember why she had just come in the room!

My guess is that it's to do with how we define our self. Our memories are part of what is us and the longer ones have more permanence because they sustain our sense of self. But that's just a guess.

Same in dreams, yes. That's why I disagree with "unclesirbob" in the DI forum, who believes that dreams are about what happened the previous day.

The dream you responded to (before I digressed!) was a job I had 20 years ago. I was there 2 years but I dream more about that than the job I've had all the time since. But that was my first job so I suppose I had a lot of "defining-of-self" experience at the time. Feeling part of a large organisation and powerless within it was the main one.

Thanks for that thought-provoking reply, Sara!

Old equipment and old office

I'm head of my office again (I gave this up 2 years ago irl) and have organised a move back to the previous building! I've learned the cost is £52k per year. A client asks if this is practical and do we have all our own kit (computers etc). I say we have and I visualise some old mainframe computers in an empty room.

Then an elderly man appears and tells me not to do too much!

Now I'm going down the stairs. There are other people around. Another client now asks if we have a record player in our "kit". I respond facetiously to him "You mean so you can play your old David Cassidy CDs?"

(wondering if anyone other than Moonbeam has heard of David Cassidy )

Brought to my knees but still kicking

I'm in a running race, like cross country running at school, and my friend M and I are at the back by a long way. I can see another group of runners behind us. I know that if they catch us we'll be disqualified or something.

I'm feeling really exhausted and running just isn't happening (aware I may be waking up). I look and M and I are literally running on our knees! I decide that the chasing pack of runners may catch us but if they try it, I'll beat them up!

Gender non-specific

Looking at a notice showing members of staff (somewhere) with a new coding system revealing their gender. It consists of 4 symbols, the first two mean male and female. The third means sexuality. And the fourth means their gender status in their current relationship. I notice one person's name, (who I know is a lesbian), and see she has both male and female symbols highlighed (I didn't understand that bit either), the third symbol showing she's bisexual and the 4th saying she's a female within her current bisexual relationship (presumably relevant for trans-sexuals).

Thinks: This is the makings of a wonderfully politically-correct system which can be used by anyone to denote how they want to be treated gender-wise. Much more flexible than just ticking M or F.

Pseudonyms (fragment)

Two people are giving false names. The first sounds totally random. The second sounds like, but isn't, Elvis Presley.

The first dream is the one with most content. I'm looking back into the past, seemingly. It seems I don't have any modern "kit" which probably suggests my thinking is out of date? What do I need to modify? Certainly something to do with the workplace, which feels very surreal to me these days. But more generally, what does the workplace mean to me? Not just work but also the part of me that does tasks for rewards. That makes a lot of sense. I've been doing a lot of thinking about my child-like dependency on e.g. employers recently.

The second dream follows the theme of the first. I'm not going to allow these others to catch me. I'm not going to play by their rules. Although I'm on my knees I feel totally confident that I could physically defeat them. This is interesting as I am not a physical person and I don't show agression. Nice to know I can when I want to. But with me it will not be physical agression, more likely to be asserting my independence from e.g. employers, banks, service providers, academic courses....

The third dream is me trying to rationalise sexuality. I know in my own mind that there's more to sexuality than "M" and "F". Although I have always been hetrosexual I am fully aware of my capacity to be anything I choose. A more subtle symbolism in the dream was the fact that there were 4 symbols, each of which was bound by a square frame with rounded corners. I'm normally frightened in dreams when squares appear (no, I don't understand this either) but not so in this one. The rounded corners seemed to soften the square-shape. Wondering if this suggests I'm softening my attitude to being afraid of different sexualities?

Not much of an idea about the last dream. Only that I find Elvis one of those real-life people I don't like. Too much popularity etc. I find absolutely nothing amusing or entertaining about elvis impersonators. But there wasn't enough in this dream to do anything with, I think.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Gender non-specific.

this is a interesting dream, I laughed when I read it because it reminds me of the stereotype of psychologist trying to fit everyone into a box lol

Originally Posted by Burned up

A more subtle symbolism in the dream was the fact that there were 4 symbols, .

this is the part that really interested me, I was wondering if this could have something to do with the "inner gender" like how you talk about your inner female and that sort of thing?


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Originally Posted by mark

this is a interesting dream, I laughed when I read it because it reminds me of the stereotype of psychologist trying to fit everyone into a box lol

It's the way out society works. All about ticking boxes.

Originally Posted by mark

this is the part that really interested me, I was wondering if this could have something to do with the "inner gender" like how you talk about your inner female and that sort of thing?
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Probably is. Perhaps I see my "inner selves" as something more elaborated than "masculine side" and "feminine side"?

Originally Posted by Burned up

(wondering if anyone other than Moonbeam has heard of David Cassidy )

Just for that, I shall spam your dream journal!

Then....



and now...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXS2hQybYFQ

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Just for that, I shall spam your dream journal!

Then....



and now...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXS2hQybYFQ

LOL I guess I deserved that in my DJ . Quite why I thought of him as an example of old pop music in my dream I don't know. Glad you enjoyed the nostalgia (managed about 20 seconds of that video)

Snow patrol

I was watching a snow report on TV about the Scottish ski slopes (which have received a lot of snow this year irl). The reporter said the snow was really very good and was running some snow through his fingers to prove it.

Now I'm there too on the hillside. The piste is really like a mountain path and the now is indeed good powder, perhaps a little moist for good skiing (as Scottish snow tends to be). I now see that the snow has thinned on the track and the ground below is showing, worn down to mud and grit in places. I gather some snow from the side of the track and throw it onto the exposed areas but my attempts are futile as I'd have to be there for ages to make a difference.

Hair patrol

I'm looking at myself in the mirror. My hair is scruffy and has become so thin at the top that my scalp is almost bare. I reluctantly conclude that there is nothing I can do about it. (irl it's on the way to this state)

These dreams seem to be the same. In both cases, I'm wanting to replace a covering but it is too difficult. I'm not specially bothered about my hair falling out although I'd much prefer to have a full head. But it seems the underlying worry is something more fundamental. Something is being exposed that I would prefer to see covered up.

A layer of something desirable (snow, hair) is worn through showing something undesirable (bare earth, bare skin). I have a strange feeling of being exposed and hence being useless or undesirable. This is more than vanity, it's about how I see myself. Perhaps I feel I can't be desirable unless I have a certain covering (snow, hair)? IRL this is presumably my persona - the self I present to others.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Snow patrol

at first I thought it was gonna be about the band but nope

yeah I see Scotland is due for more heavy snow, do you go skiing in Scotland or just when you go on holiday

Originally Posted by Burned up

Hair patrol

now that is scary!!! lol

I can understand about it bothering you going bald. Does it concern you alot when you look in the mirror?

Originally Posted by mark

at first I thought it was gonna be about the band but nope

That was the hook

Originally Posted by mark

yeah I see Scotland is due for more heavy snow, do you go skiing in Scotland or just when you go on holiday

Occasionally go to the Scottish slopes. But they're not as good as the Alps.

Originally Posted by mark

now that is scary!!! lol

I can understand about it bothering you going bald. Does it concern you alot when you look in the mirror?

Yes it gives me an idea of what it must be like for other people when they see me

Originally Posted by Burned up

That was the hook

ha ha I must admit man I am loving the little word games you have going on in your titles...I never see them coming lol its a cool little surprise

Originally Posted by Burned up

Occasionally go to the Scottish slopes. But they're not as good as the Alps.

he he yeah I can imagine! I saw the mountains in Austria and there is nothing like them! they are beautiful and even seeing them on the TV does no justice to the size of them.

Originally Posted by Burned up

Yes it gives me an idea of what it must be like for other people when they see me

aww nah mate dont think like that I am sure that people will not change their opinion on you at all

Originally Posted by Burned up

LOL I guess I deserved that in my DJ . Quite why I thought of him as an example of old pop music in my dream I don't know. Glad you enjoyed the nostalgia (managed about 20 seconds of that video)

Yes, I did thanks. That was awful, wasn't it? I actually never liked him (too girly), but I had a lot of friends who did, and especially his younger brother Sean who was more my age.

I could tell you a band I liked (these guys are much more manly ....but I'm afraid of ridicule....(maybe you knew these guys? .) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKdQblKweT8

Originally Posted by Burned up

I'm not specially bothered about my hair falling out although I'd much prefer to have a full head.

That's good, that is not something worth worrying about, for sure.

Something arousing

Woke up sexually aroused but with no recall as to who might have been involved. I did fall asleep fantasising about this other student, though

DVers are aeroplane fanatics

I'm at a convention with aeroplane fanatics, and we've boarded Concorde for a ride. My seat is third row on the left, aisle. Next to me is Moonbeam (we're proabably talking about 1970s pop stars ) and the pilot is at the front at a kind of table rather than in the cockpit, like a teacher. He's a large black guy who reminds me of an actor I can't place. As we're about to take off, Mark rushes forward enthusiastically and is at the front of the aisle (by rows 1 and 2) sitting on the floor with another DC. I'm aware Bro is around somewhere behind me. Then the plane takes off and the door in front of me is still open. The pilot sees Mark and rushes over just as Mark disappears through a kind of trap door leading under the aisle somewhere with the other DC. The pilot is behaving like an angry teacher.

The door is still open and the plane climbs in a kind of spiral clockwise pattern and I'm hanging onto my chair so I don't get flung out.

Next we're back on the ground at the convention. Everyone gets out their contribution to some kind of mega-art piece. Most people have friezes made from coloured paper with names of other enthusiasts on it (like a DV thread I suppose, but home-made). Many of these fit neatly togther and one person has an amazing embroidery that must have taken weeks. Bro's is also impressively long. My contribution is about 10 lines of writing and I'm aware it looks crap compared to everyone else's. I'm also aware I don't have the spare time to do any more.

Stormy weather at work

I'm back in my old office (again) and I see that mist is creeping in through the barely-open windows. I remark that it might snow and someone tells me that if I look out of the other window I'd see it has already started. Suddenly the snow falls fast and the windows on one side of the office are darkenen with accumulating snow. There's a strong wind moving through the office althoug I can't sense it. But when I move my wheely chair back from my desk it bows back into place again. The feeling is like with magnets - there's a force but we can't feel it (unless we're made of iron!). Some PDP here - I was playing with 2 magnets last night.

Now the office is devoid of most furniture and I move my chair to the other side (by the darkened windows). I lift my feet off the floor and accellerate across, aiming at D who I used to work with. We collide and LOL. Now D wants a go and we've put on these clothes like he's a cop and I'm a crim. I race him across the office and he's trying to catch me. I sit on my wheely chair before he does and we accellerate, him behind me, across the office into a store room that wasn't there before, LOLing throughout.

UFO

Like the one in Close Encounters or Independence Day. That's all.

Not sure about proper meanings here but my take on DVers seems to be how I imagine I might find them IRL. Moonbeam in thought, Mark having fun and Bro quietly lurking in the background but having produced screeds of stuff for the frieze. But I don't know you all irl so am probably wide of the mark (or even the Mark)!!! Not sure why I think we're all at an air convention, though.

The second dream similarly characterised D who was always good for a laugh. Perhaps in my drakness (deep unconscious) I ca have more fun that I allow myself IRL.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Yes, I did thanks. That was awful, wasn't it? I actually never liked him (too girly), but I had a lot of friends who did, and especially his younger brother Sean who was more my age.

Don't remember Sean. But I do remember the "battle" for No 1 between Cassidy and Donny Osmond, whose younger brother I'd rather not bring to mind.

For those who don't know about David Cassidy, think Justin Timberlake but thirty something years ago!

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I could tell you a band I liked (these guys are much more manly ....but I'm afraid of ridicule....(maybe you knew these guys? .) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKdQblKweT8

LOL oh yes, I remember them well. They're still about and one of them lives near me. But they haven't performed for years. Not together, anyway. All sorts of legal stuff too I think.

My sister was more of a fan than me. Honest!