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I have decided to start a lucid dream journal.
Normal Dream
Lucid Dream
Dream Sign
Re-occurring Dream
To all the noobs out there:
FA = False awakening
LD = Lucid Dream
WILD = Wake Initiated Lucid Dream
DILD = Dream Initiated Lucid Dream
Peace, Jamal
EDIT: I've decided to change to a lucid only dream journal for various reasons.
October 29, 2007
I attempted a WILD this morning with amazing results! Last night I just knew I'd have an LD. I got new covers and sheets for my bed and it was so comfortable. In the morning I woke with bad recall of a cruddy dream where I gave an old skateboard away to my friend. I was disappointed but it was still early. So i decided to try the WILD. As I was going to sleep I was picturing a scene of these pirates on a boat. Soon I could hear them chanting HO HO HO etc. Then suddenly I felt sleep paralysis come over me!! I woke up in excitement. "DAMN IT better try again." So I pictured the boat again and before I knew it SP WOOT
So this time I didn't panic... I thought hmmm picture a scene. So I pictured this scene with a road and some grass of each side. There were people on the grass with booths set up.. And there were fires on the ground (it was night time) I rolled my self into this dream and BAM I was there... I didn't reality check right away because it was just obvious I was dreaming. I walked over to the trees and appreciated how real they were than looked at the ground. DAMN The dream started fading already... NO! I thought.... "clarity now" I shouted and nothing happened. But in the next couple seconds wow did it ever get clear!! I now appreciated everything so much more... The fires were so real and the trees.. I remembered billybobs post which said for more clarity kneel to the ground and use all 5 senses. I felt the rough gravel on the ground, And listened to the people in the booths. I heard one conversation which went something like "OMG I am so grounded!!" Then I stopped listening. I then looked at my hands and noticed on both hands my middle and ring fingers were glued together... I forgot to check the rest of my senses and got up. I then decided... hmm time to fly!! So I remembered about passive control and thought... Didn't it say on the news it's possible to fly now due to a shift in gravity? So I jumped up and started to flap my arms like a bird. It wasn't really working... I would just about 10 feet up, hover for a bit, than fall hard on the bottoms of my feet. I tried a couple times than thought forget about it. I then saw this really cool red tree I wanted to feel. The problem is there was a small river and a clothes line in the way. In order to get to the tree I would have to practice my flying! So I ran and flew over the river and clothes line with ease and landed straight on the tree. At this point the dream was fading. I thought to myself... Awesome.. It really worked
Wow am I ever happy!
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October 31, 2007
Last night I had a boring Non lucid where my dog ran away. Eventually I woke up in the morrow and decided to try the WILD method. I felt SP and woke up.... So i tried again... Once again I felt SP (the most intense SP I've ever felt) This was quite the experience... I heard screaming screeching and felt the craziest violent sensations... I wasn't scared at all... Actually i was quite amazed!! Next thing I know I felt a hand grabbing my hand and i heard voices saying get up. I was being pulled up to my feet by a crowd of gangsters. They were treating me like their ring leader and immediately I knew I was dreaming. I tried the hand RC but I was being held by two gangsters (I was seeing in 3rd person) than I realized the guy I was looking at wasn't even me so I raised my own hand and looked at it. I had about 12 fingers and half my hand was purple... I clearly knew I was dreaming so I once again (like always) started admiring the realism of this dream.. But then OH NO it started fading. I yelled "clarity now"
but not loud enough!! I woke up and my brother and sister were on a brand new computer in my room. I was like "When did we get this" and they were like this morning man... So I'm like guys I had another LD!! and my sister is like "How are you sure you not still dreaming?" then BAM I woke up for real.... I HATE FALSE AWAKENINGS!! lol... but hey another WILD YAY!!
Wow.. did you have all the sensations of a WILD! But what was great was that you KNEW what was happening, you didn't freak out and actually rode the experience into lucidity!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamalkk
Bravo! :bravo:
Thanks a lot... :D Yeah for some reason it feels like I got WILD's pretty good... I've attempted 3 and succeeded each time... And I actually enjoy the SP experience... When it comes over me I know how to slip into a dream well... I can even craft the scene :) (Well i did once)
November 1, 2007
BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME :D
That's great!!
ah, I know that can be annoying when the dream is so vivd but yet you still don't realizse your dreaming.
But again very interesting dreams:P
November 2, 2007
BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME :D
man... i wanna have a WILD! u lucky bastard :D
November 8, 2007
I just remember becoming lucid via DILD... I was then walking around... I decided to increase clarity but I had a false awakening....
Another extremely short LD :(
They'll get longer. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
November 10,2007
This morning I attempted the WILD with my best WILD success yet!!! I felt a very brief wave and therefore thought it didn't work... But eventually I found my self in my grandparents house somehow non lucid with Ryan and Neville(best friends). I don't know how but I suddenly became lucid.
It just clicked and I was like "hey guys this is a dream!!" And Ryan was like wait... "so we're all dreaming right now!??!" I'm like "I don't know if you are but I sure am!!" so they told me to show me something... There was an annoying guy in the room and I thought I'd try to shoot him... So I yelled gun asuming a gun would appear in my hand.... no success....louder... GUN!!.... no success.....GUN!!!! wasn't working so I decided to shoot the guy with my bare hand... Bang I shot him dead... I heard the police were on their way so I proposed an epic shootout to my friends... they agreed. Since the forced control didn't work I thought this time I'd try some passive... So I open a cupboard expecting guns to be in there... But there was only cap guns!! So I'm just like forget about it.. The cops are coming.. And time to make this thing the clearest it's ever been!! So I started to feel a table... Right away the visuals became infinitely clearer!! I then saw a box of honey bunches of oats cereal... I decided to smell it to further increase the lucidity.. WOW DID THIS THING EVER SMELL REALISTIC!!! The dream then faded into a FA
But hey!!! Another WILD!! and another LD in general!!!!!!!!!!!
Btw... I have been in active for the last couple days due to a friend be terminal.... Just telling you I'm not quitting!
:eek: i never had that happen. i want my dreams to be like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
LOL!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Great job touching and smelling things to make your LD more vivid!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Did you say that your friend is terminal? If so, I'm so sorry! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
I'm so envious of you! Nice work on becoming lucid!
Thanks everyone (and yes clairity... It's a family friend :()
Again I'm so sorry.. and I wish you both peace. :hug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Greeting fellow Ontarian!
I like how you were feeling the table and smelling the cereal to maintain lucidity. Seriously, those are both good techniques. I usually just resort to the feeling of movement, but the more elements you focus on the better. I'm going to have to remember to try those next time!
November 12, 2007
I had a lucid dream yesterday morning Via WILD... The reason I'm recording it now is because I was at Stevie Wonder concert all day!!! Anywho here it goes
Felt Sp and all the sudden I was looking at my hands outside on a beautiful sunny day. I looked up at the sky... It had the perfect amount of clouds and was simply breathtaking. There was only problem with this dream... There was no audio!! I couldn't find a way to fix it... Anyways.. I started floating which lead to my best flying experience so far!!! It was amazing I flew high and far then landed gently... The dream slowly faded into an FA (like always)
I was satisfied!!
Hmmm... time for a cigarette.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
No really the dream sounds wonderful! I need to have a "peaceful" LD sometime soon.. just so I can remember how great they are. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clairity
Hehe :D
November 17, 2007
Had another 2 WILDS today!!! Although they were pretty weak with not much control... It was still (as always) extremely fun!! Here goes
1st one: After all the usual sensations I found my self looking at my hands... I was lucid!! One thing I found funny is my hands and arms (and presumably my whole body) was white. In real life I'm half black so I laughed out loud and clearly did not need to reality check. I started to walk around and look at the sky (for some reason I do that a lot now) I wasn't paying any attention to my surroundings... Only to the sky. I started to float up and I woke.
2nd: I found myself in my bedroom from my old house... Considering it's demolished I didn't need to RC again. I decided to try out some telekinesis skills, so I found an interesting object on the ground. It was a cardboard box with writing all over it. The first thing I did was throw it up into the air and told myself it would stop in mid air, at which point I would start to turn it rapidly. It worked!! Well half worked... It stopped in mid air for about 2 seconds than fell on my head! I then looked over at a pair of dirty socks on my floor. I stretched my hand out in their direction and imagined pulling them toward me. It worked!! Except when they got to me they had turned into an empty KFC box... All of the sudden I felt my eyes opening and I couldn't fight it... I woke up... (FA) and I thought dang it... Well w/e I had another WILD!! Than I woke up for real.
Why do I always fall for FA's!!! AHH! Anyway YAY 2 more WILDS!!!!!!!!:banana:
LOL!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Hey you're getting better and better with your LDs!
Keep it up! :D
WOW it looks like your mastering the WILDS. My enemy of lucid techniques:P
Congrats on another LD!
WIIIILD i want a wild :( do u WILD w/o setup, i mean not as a WBTB?
FA's are a waste of time, u could spend the entire dream lucid, but instead u "wake up" it suuucks, but its an interesting phenomenon.
Thanks everyone!!!
November 22, 2007 (best morning ever!!)
Wow!!! I am so excited!!!!!! I didn't just have 2 WILDS!!! I completely two TASKS!!!!!!
1st WILD: TOTM
I woke up around 7 in the morning and decided (because school was canceled,) to try the WILD. It took me no more than 2 minutes to hit SP!! When I entered the dream I found myself in my school... It was very vivid but I started to rub my hands to make it even more incredible! I started to walk around and scare kids in the hallway!! I walked into the girls washroom on accident and remembered the advanced task!!! I was so excited because if it worked, I knew I would get that dang badge I've longed for!! I placed my hands on my chest and felt immediate growth... After full size my breasts shrank back down... Damn it I thought... So I tried again... This time it worked!! I then went to shrink my YooHoo but realized the change was already complete!! It started to freak me out so I changed back quick.... This had already been one of my longest lucids (I was walking around the halls for over 10 minutes) As this thought dawned on me I woke up!!
2ND WILD: Lucid Goal!!
I woke up to tell my brother about the experience... I think he was asleep because he didn't respond... I decided to try another WILD... I'm still not sure if this was an FA. This time sleep paralysis hit me in under 20 seconds!!! I found myself in my school non lucid. I was walking around and then A student informed me that there was a hockey tournament today. He said he'll need my help Icing the hallways... For some reason we had to make the hallways really slippery so the hockey players could skate in between rinks. I went outside and some grade 5 girl who looked my age started hitting on me... I had control but didn't know I was dreaming yet... I hugged her but then told her I can't do anything more cause shes WAY too young. I then spotted something that made me lucid: There were race cars in the school parking lot!! I hopped in one while rubbing my hands and sped off!!! Lucid racing was much like a video game... I love video games... Which is why I raced around for over 20 minutes!!! I soon realized I was wasting my time in my LD so I remembered my personal goal... To do stand up comedy in front of a crowd of comedians (and mostly regular people) So I pulled over into what looked like an abandoned building. I did some passive control to make a stage and an audience... As I walked in I saw Chris rock, Dave Chapelle, and Adam Sandler in the front row!! I got up on stage and people started applauding! "thanks thanks" they all started laughing and it wasn't even funny!!! (I love preforming for crowds so this was the ultimate feeling for me!) I then said "hows everybody doing today??" They all roared with laughter... Unfortunately...My lucidity began to fade... I was still semi Lucid and the comedy club was turning into a gospel... I decided to go with it so I impressed the audience with my gospel singing skills... I woke up soon after.
So I'd say this is one of my best lucid experiences!! I did two goals, had the longest LD's yet, Done some of my best control, and got into SP in the shortest amount of time!!!
All I can say IS YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY:banana::banana::banana:
Thanks a bunch!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Clairity
Thanks a lot!! I think I've had about 7 WILDs... With maybe 8 attempts... I don't know the exact numbers... Only the amount of LD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Erin~
I wild when I wake up in the morning... I don't use alarm..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones
jamal man Nice work! I must say!
Thanks vince!!
I already remarked about the task in the TOTM thread but I am SO freakin' jealous of this comedy club dream!! You performed in front of Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle and had them roaring with laughter!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
I am thrilled for you regarding this dream and then, to top it off, you became a gospel singer.. unbelievable!!
Add to that the fact that your lucidity came so easily and so quickly.. BRAVO!! :bowdown:
Wow, I haven't read your journal before, what a loss!
I am amazed by the amount of lucids you've had in a short time and also that you have the best adventures in your LD's!
Congratulations too on going through SP so easily! I still have problems with the noise, but I'm sure I will conquer it some day.
I'm inspired by your dreams, keep up the nice dreaming :)
Ouch thanks a lot Clarity and Sara!!! Those were such great complements!!!!!
November 24, 2007
WILD attempt... Annoying..
I felt all the WILD effects this morning.. In fact I felt them very strongly and during some imaging before SP I kinda went on a lucid adventure to find my bicycle but it wasn't a full on dream. I finally hit SP and boy it hit me hard!!! When it was done I opened my dream eyes I looked over at my tv and my piano... I thought I had opened my real eyes... So I woke up and saw that I was staring at my covers!! I gotta realize that I am under covers.. I could of had a very vivid lucid!!... It's kind of annoying because due to school I can only attempt my best WILDS during the weekend... So hopefully tomorrow will be good.
wheres ur post where u completed lucid task? i want to read it
Up on this page.. It's called TOTM and it's on the task of the month page.
November 25, 2007
Last night/ This morning I had a wack of interesting dreams including one WBTB... I'll record the WBTB first then I want to record one of my non Lucids! :D
The Meadow
I had been trying to WILD for around an hour when I decided to just try WBTB... I stopped concentrating on staying still and I just plain fell asleep Next thing I knew I was flying through a breathtaking meadow lucid! I had so much flight control and the clarity was breathtaking! I flew around in circles, upside down, and all around superman style but a bit slower!! I finally came across a nice looking pond and started losing altitude. I landed in the pond and started guiding across the water... I thought of what would be a cool way to get out of the pond because there were a bunch of tourists on the land beside it. I decided the go under water and all of the sudden emerge on a horse. So I did!! All the tourists saw was me and a horse marching out of the water!! A bunch of them took pictures and smiled. I woke up.
Secret Service Costume Style
This dream started off with me and a few friends watching the news. On the news it was talking about how costumes being mandatory on Halloween would be much better for crime and especially animal obedience! (somehow it made sense) So the government passed a law that you must wear a costume on Halloween. That day my mate Scott drove me and Neville to the store. I think it was a dollar store but didn't pay much attention to what it was. Inside there was an angry gangster in a batman costume. (I was in a weird turtle costume btw) This gangster started getting furious with the new law... Anyways on the way out I held the door open for some old lady and I heard her say something like "wow this costume thing sure does work!!" when all of the sudden the gangster stuck her up by gun point!! I grabbed the gun out of reflex and ran outside. For some reason I knew it had no bullets so to prove it, I shot it in the air... The problem was it did indeed have 1 bullet and the cops had already been called and were waiting across the street!! Shit I thought... They saw me... I'm screwed... So I threw the gun in Scott's car. One police officer (In a secretive looking car) came up to me and told me to remain calm... I was VERY nice to him and told him I seriously didn't do anything. He believed me but asked for the gun... We went over to Scott's car but it was gone!! So hes like it's ok... To pay the price you will work for me... As a secret agent!! So we drove to the Queens palace in some high tech school bus!! When we got there I had to pretend I didn't know anyone... Even though I somehow did:shock: ... So I approached the queens throne where many rich and high class people were sitting listening to the queens speech. She then looked at me and instructed me to get her gold sash from the door in the back. I went to the door in the back and shes like THE OTHER DOOR so I went to the other door and the secretary's were like "WHO THE BLOODY 'ELL ARE YOU!!" So I grabbed the sash and ran it over to the queen.. Problem was now she was a prince in womans clothing.. I woke lol!!
Anyway I had really good recall last night... About 5 dreams!! And one WBTB so all in all success... And now I'm better at flying!:banana:
:shock:
jesus man I have not checked out your DJ before but I wish I had sooner! you have so many lucids its great!
I really like your dreams they are very entertaining :)
keep it up man :P
Thanks a lot mark!!
Wow, you've been riding a horse! And just to impress some DCs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
You have no idea how much I would want to do that! (riding the horse, not necessarily impress DCs ;))
Hehe thanks sara
jamal crazy dreams ! lol keep it up !
Thanks vince!!
This is my new FA color (I'm not changing old posts)
OMFG Just had the best LD experience in my life... BY FAR!!!!!!!! The morning started off crazy... I woke up with bad recall and a headache... I went to the bathroom and saw someone had left feces on the seat... I went back to my bed and then decided to try a WILD.. I hit sleep paralysis and then woke up to my mom yelling !!!!!!!!school!!!!!!! Then I woke up for real... That entire experience was one crazy FA!! I flabbergasted and decided to go to the washroom and try to WILD for real. So I did... I remembered that in this FA, A certain position I took WILDing got me into SP in 6 seconds... Although this was fake... I used the same position to get into SP in around 3 minutes!! Next thing I knew I was looking at my bedroom which was looked completely wrong!! I jumped outta bed and said "LUCID DREAM BABY" to my brother. I started feeling the carpet in my room and then I even ate some cardboard. This made the dream real vivid. I decided to prove it was a dream to my brother and I started levitating this lamp in my room... Hes like wow man holy shit!! Lol!! So then I was like watch I'll levitate myself!! (fly) I tried and it didn't work. I levitated the lamp one more time to my brothers applause and left the room. I went into the living room and my mom was saying "Dinner's ready" I'm like " I don't have to eat I'm dreaming mom!!" but then on second thought I decided it would help increase vividness... I grabbed some fried potatoes and put them in my mouth... They were super hot but I cooled them down with magic :D. For a second I considered trying meat (I'm a vegetarian and have always been) So I asked my brother and he said he wouldn't try it even in his dreams. I'm like yeah good point. I then decided to test my heat control powers so I put my hand on the fireplace in my house and cooled it right down. I then remembered the TOTM!!! (advanced) I ran outside and to my dismay it was already winter... I tried to make it summer and make it back winter but it was too hard. While I was outside I was like hmm I should get my dream guide!! So I called for him/her. Some 7'ft tall bald guy and two kids started walking toward my driveway.. I yelled out " Are you my dream guide??!" and he didn't answer... It was kinda dark out and I got scared, so I went back inside. And then I woke up... I got up and started reading this book... And my bro was like " how was the lucid dream" I'm like I wish it lasted longer. But then the words in the book started to re-arrange... And I turned to my brother and said " Wait am I still dreaming?" He nodded and smiled. Fully vivid and Lucid I ran into the kitchen and ate some more potatoes. I went outside and it was so dark still.. But this time I made it summer and bright... I forgot about the task unfortunately. 3 people came into my driveway again... This time it was 2 kids and a presumably short Jewish man (He had really curly hair and a traditional hat) I walked over to them and told them that I was dreaming. They seemed ok with it and they seemed to think they were too. Since at this point my whole family and these other people were watching me, I decided to learn some more skills. So I decided to try to fly onto the roof. I remembered the part in the matrix when Morpheus was describing to Neo that it is all in his mind. I thought about that, ran, and attempted to fly on the roof.. It ended up more like a jump and I hit the ground hard. Everyone was laughing but I decided to not give up! I ran and this time decided to jump... It worked!! I landed on the roof... I thought hmm maybe since I'm on top of here I could just fly off... So I jumped off and tried to fly... I kind of just glided... Then I pretty much gave up. A van pulled up and I decided to jump in... For the whole ride I was making out with some hot girl... It always feels so real :) When we got there, We were at my school!! I was so excited that I ran inside. I got to the gym and decided to play some basketball... So I went to the storage room. I was trying to grab a ball but my annoying gym teacher Haggerman was trying to stop me. I literally punched him in the face, grabbed a ball and ran into the gym. There were about 30 people already playing basket ball... I looked at the ball I grabbed and it was way too small... So I grabbed some other kids (Scott) And told everyone to watch me dunk from half court. They all laughed and started watching. I jumped up and started flying/jumping and I went all they to the rim... Although I just came short of dunking... At that point I remembered one of my favorite movies!! Space Jam!!! In this movie the rules are able to be bent because it is so called "loony land" There is one scene in the movie where Michael Jordan stretches his arm about half the court and dunks. I decided to try this. I ran and jumped from half court... I couldn't quit stretch my arm but I FLEW controlled right to the rim!! After that I could fly amazingly!! I finally understood the technique! All the people in the gym asked me how I did that... "this is loony land" I told them... They all laughed. Scott asked why I couldn't stretch my arm... I told him that some things are harder than others... And he suggested I learn. So he told me to stretch my finger. I looked and my finger and it started stretching like crazy!! all of the sudden I was in another room in the school that was right beside the music room. My brother was playing the drums. (hes amazing in real life, but in the dream he was sounding as bad as me) I heard a bunch of people laughing at him and I'm like hey STFU!! I went over to the music room and these 3 annoying girls were making fun of him. I decided to give them a scare so I ran after them and some how we ended up in a train. I started breaking things out of the wall and I broke the window (all with telekinesis) The girls ran and I just settled on the train. I wanted some pizza and pop and I force controlled them to appear in my hands. As I was eating I had a conversation with this DC girl. I was asking her if shes dreaming as well and she said yes at first... Then she reasoned and realized she wasn't. I'm like well hey I'm glad my mind came up with you, Your really nice. She said thanks. I then heard the train said next stop downtown Toronto. I got off the train and made my way up the stairs into the city. When I got downtown I looked up at all the skyscrapers and imagined flying superman style... I decided I should get a task done. So I tried to appear a dragon to fight (one of my personal goals) But it wasn't working... So I remembered the dream name task!! I ran over to a burger king that looked more like a local sushi shop. I went inside and immediately started asking. I asked this one lady "what's my dream name" she said for me to stop wasting her time.. So I broke her table with telekinesis!! Then I asked this Chinese guy who said " I dunno... Ummm Candy Green?" I was like Ok awesome. And I started repeating it in my head. Then I'm like wait a sec!! And I looked over at what he was purchasing... It was a mound of candy some being green!! I picked up a green lollipop and asked him "Is this the reason I'm candy green??? he was like "NOOO Please don't hurt me" And I'm like okay I believe you. I asked them if I could use their washroom but they didn't have one. So I walked outside. The next shop I saw said "EXTREME" Something like that. I went inside and there were two staircases and a sign. The sign said *upstairs motor cycles/downstairs naughty videos*
I went downstairs because I thought it would be funny to steal one... I was looking at the covers and they made me laugh... I decided to not steal one and I went back outside... These experiences had been so long I thought there was no way I could remember them... And as I willed myself to wake up my dream guide begun to talk to me. "you have unlocked the secrets of lucid dreaming candy green. You will know become lucid far more often and they will last much longer" This comforted me a lot and I woke up!
AMAZING EH!!! I never thought I would have such a long, controlled, and vivid experience! It was honestly incredible! It lasted about 45 minutes real time and seemed like 3 hours!!! I completed the basic task and attempted the advanced.. And I thought this dry spell would never end :D
nice dream !!!!keep it up !!!
Wow, that was an amazing dream, Jamal!!
Very well described, sounded like a lot of fun.
Some sentences that made me laugh:
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Originally Posted by Jamal
Wow, that must give you some confidence about your next dreams!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
Congratulations too on finishing the basic TOTM.
Thanks a bunch Sara!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pVfdIw6uOhAQuote:
Originally Posted by Jamal
:lol:
anyway i really enjoyed reading this dream.... that's saying something coming from me. cuz usually, while reading a DJ, i'm only half-interested. while reading anything, actually, i'm only half-interested.
i'm sure your dream guide's prediction will be true. it's "burned into ur subconscious". yeah u'll probably have more frequent LDs now.
candy greeen :mrgreen:
Thanks a bunch :D!!
haha that's amazingQuote:
I don't have to eat I'm dreaming mom!!"
Contragts on another LD(s) though! you've had so many since the last time I've been here. Keep it up:D
The last time I posted was when I was right in the prime of my LD ability. Since then I have smoked a lot of marijuana and haven't been recording my lucids as much. I also have been thinking about them less... That is up until late 2009 to the present. I am currently cutting down on my marijuana intake and I've been having lucids lately. I hope to soon master lucid dreaming, and to do this I'll have to start recording my LD's again. This thread is now resurrected.