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      Dream Recall!!!

      I first learned about LDing about 8 months ago. Since then I've had about 30 LDs, however most of them have been very short, ranging from a few seconds to a couple minutes. Even though they have been short, I've still been able to experience things like dream control and flying. The main issue I've been having is with dream recall. At first this was mainly due to my lack of commitment to dream journaling and LDing in general. A couple weeks ago I decided I was going to be more thorough with my DJ, and I saw an improvement in my dream recall overall. I usually wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, and I found myself remembering the dream before that and about 3 dreams after that. The problem is, the last few days I've been having almost no recall of the dreams that are in the final hours of my sleep. I can still remember the dream before I get up just fine. This really damages my motivation to LD, because I know that LDs tend to occur in those final hours. I also know that that is when dreams are the most vivid, and I also enjoy remembering non-LD dreams. Has anyone had this happen before, or have any advice?

      I also have a general question about dream recall. I've read on various sites/this forum that people will "remember a dream" and then "write that dream in their DJ". For me however, I often don't remember an entire dream, I just remember one dream "scene", but I can't remember what came before or after it, or what my purpose for being there was. I've also read that "once you remember one moment in the dream, the rest will follow", however this is rarely true for me. Is everyone this way, or am I in the minority?

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      Has anything major changed during the last few days in your life, especially sleep-wise? If so, that might be what caused it, but if not, it might be just random recall drop. Dream recall tends to fluctuate sometimes and it's quite normal, but it surely will be back.
      As for recalling dream not fully, it's normal as well, and actually many people can only recall fragments of dreams when starting out, don't worry, you are not minority in that.

      *Moved to Dream Signs and Recall*

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      I also have had the problem of not recalling morning dreams as much as early night dreams, although my morning dreams are now starting to reappear and amazingly enough I had a pretty vivid non-lucid dream that happened in the first hour of my sleep last night - so that is possible too, just less likely. In my case I think my dream recall issues have been related to stress, and now that my stress has gone down I expect my recall to improve. Also could be that recall goes through phases or maybe the chemistry was not right for me. Anyway my dream recall appears to be improving again, and I hope yours will too. And I agree that vivid non-lucids can be terrific as well.

      My dreams also tend to be just one dream scene most of the time, and it is very rare for me to remember a lengthy dream with lots of plot developments - though sometimes that happens too.

      Also I suggest that you may want to invest some time in improving your memory in general in waking life. Memory exercises that improve your waking memory are likely to help with dream recall.

      Also I read in Daniel Love's book "Are You Dreaming?" About a nifty technique for improving memory in waking life and also for lucid dreaming. The technique is called the peg system, and it works like this:

      first you have to assign an item that is your primary association for each number from 1 to 10 in waking life, based on what the number looks like the most to you and/or the first thing you think of when you see that number - for me these are my pegs (but for you they would be different): 1 stick, 2 swan, 3 bottom, 4 chair, 5 car, 6 note, 7 flag, 8 snowman, 9 cherry, 10 fence. Spend some time deciding what your pegs will be and memorize them for always.

      Then try to remember a set of random things or ideas using your pegs as associations - for example: if I try to remember a computer in the first place, I visualize a computer being beaten with a stick until it is thoroughly broken; if my next memory is supposed to be a cup, I think of a swan drinking water out of a cup, if I try to remember the word "pen" next then I think of the phrase "pen in the butt" which sounds a bit like "pain in the butt" but is connected with my peg for 3 (bottom) and it is a catchy humorous phrase which really helps, then if my next word is phone I think of a phone on a chair and think about how it does not belong on a chair, etc.

      After having written down my list of memories to try to recall as 1 computer, 2 cup, 3 pen, 4 phone, etc., then I turn the paper around and maybe even do something else, and then on another paper or or the other side I will try to write my memorized list again based on what associations I find in my peg slots in memory "what do I think of with stick? A broken computer ..."

      I have found that this is remarkably effective and easy for me. Daniel Love suggests using this method to help bring back memories from lucid dreams. Notice that this suggests that he understands that one may well forget dream details even from a lucid dream, even though one is more likely to remember those than from non-lucid dreams because of greater awareness in LDs improving memory.

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